i tried to get a Mini through John Roberts. Mind you they were very very friendly but I simply could not agree to pay $3k over MSRP for a Cooper S that might arrive in January. So I looked on autotrader and found a beautiful EB/W
MCS with only 550 miles for sale. We checked it out and bought it, so I got the car (in Nov) and payed about the same as if I had gotten a brand new one at MSRP.