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[DaveNagy]

Okay, it sounds like the stock grills are the way to go. I may not like the look of them, but their anti-theft qualities probably make up for that.

If I understand folks correctly, the grills have some sort of internal structure (pegs?) that would prevent you from bringing a speaker up level with the door card? Is there any downside to grinding the obstructions away, other than the hassle factor?

I will look for that thread regarding the Focal install.

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The whole door breaths (vibrates)as it is. I will be stiffining the door card and door with a heavy pliable pvc membrane and 1/2" pvc foam.

I was thinking that the liberal application of some sort of Dynamat-like product to the back of the door card might help damp things down. It might even make the plastic door trim seem less plastic-y when tapped on. Is the foam intended to fill the space between door and card? Transferring vibration from the card, back into the sturdier metal door?

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Personally I would not worry about jamming the biggest speaker in the doors. The bass is not going to come from there.

I agree. 5.25" speakers will probably give you better mids as well. But, I just ran across a fella who was selling some barely used CDT HD-62's for $200, so I think I'll splurge a little. I've a couple 8" subs as well, but I may not really need them. I'm hoping to come up with a clever way to mount one of them in the boot, with the enclosure extending down into the battery compartment. We shall see...

-Dave