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CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 05:47 PM

anybody got the pdf for the new aero kit fitting iam not paying bmw thanx in advance

b4mmy · Dec 29th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original)

anybody got the pdf for the new aero kit fitting iam not paying bmw thanx in advance

No but I just noticed today that the aero kit I got came with John Cooper Works sills!

CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 06:16 PM

found it on motoring file £300 saved on the fitting

b4mmy · Dec 29th, 2006, 06:27 PM

so how much was it?

Jordan210 · Dec 29th, 2006, 06:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by b4mmy (original)

No but I just noticed today that the aero kit I got came with John Cooper Works sills!

SO that what makes it the JCW Aero kit

rec · Dec 29th, 2006, 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original)

found it on motoring file £300 saved on the fitting

would be concerned about your warranty tho...

CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 07:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

would be concerned about your warranty tho...

rubbish thats just the way bmw programe you to think the kit is costing £845 from a mini dealer in stirling scotland or £1080 fitted so fitted my aero skirts to my cooper its just the same but the bumpers are different easy 2hrs done

rec · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:04 PM

i wouldn't say it's rubbish mate. they're well within their rights to void your warranty because of work carried out by a third party !

CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:08 PM

void my warranty on what my bumper skirts

rec · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:10 PM

no, the third party fitting of it. ie, the fitting was not done by BMW approved fitters.

CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:18 PM

yes thats me a now bmw fitter iam not worried about it

b4mmy · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:25 PM

sounds like a good price either way as the option cost me 1400 I think... and BMW got to keep my old bumpers and skirts.... does that make sense?

CC07ERS · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by b4mmy (original)

sounds like a good price either way as the option cost me 1400 I think... and BMW got to keep my old bumpers and skirts.... does that make sense?

why do they want your old stuff they must be selling on ebay too

b4mmy · Dec 29th, 2006, 08:34 PM

the car was shipped to them separately from the aero kit... so, someone must have the original bits

KenL · Dec 29th, 2006, 09:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

i wouldn't say it's rubbish mate. they're well within their rights to void your warranty because of work carried out by a third party !

Legally, they can only refuse to do warranty work if a fault develops that they can prove is caused by the fitting of non-manufacturer parts or the fitting of.

Say for example you fit a panel filter and something goes wrong with the engine, they may be able to refuse work saying it was a filter that caused it - although a decent dealer should see sense.

However, if you fit a non-standard body kit, they cannot refuse work on faults if it is completely unrelated to the fault.

Similarly if you want to go to a trusted independent garage for servicing or repairs, MINI (or any other manufacturer) cannot refuse any warranty work as long as you use recommended parts.

S33BBY · Dec 29th, 2006, 09:49 PM

Yep, as Ken says. If, say, the back bumper started to fall off, BMW would be within their right to refuse warranty work as it was not fitted by them. However, if something goes wrong with the engine, they can't blame it on the fitting of the kit! It's pretty logical really.

KenL · Dec 29th, 2006, 10:34 PM

One thing to remember as that dealers like warranty work, they get paid for it by MINI.

They do though, charge a lower labour rate than you would pay - probably a bulk discount !

Ryephile · Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original)

void my warranty on what my bumper skirts

LOLERCOASTER!!! You warranty nuts need to take a deep breath; the engine isn't going to explode and the suspension fall off and all airbags deploy because you properly changed the bumper yourself versus some monkey getting paid virturally nothing with no reason to do a proper job.

---> KenL: Yes the dealerships get paid for warrantly work, however they get paid a FRACTION what they would for normal service. The dealership is in its best interest to hassle you for the full monty. It is however not acceptable for them to try to rip you off for an unrelated issue; i.e. different bumper causing a manufacturing defect in a con-rod.

KenL · Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ryephile (original)

---> KenL: Yes the dealerships get paid for warrantly work, however they get paid a FRACTION what they would for normal service. The dealership is in its best interest to hassle you for the full monty. It is however not acceptable for them to try to rip you off for an unrelated issue; i.e. different bumper causing a manufacturing defect in a con-rod.

Yes, that is probably true.

I know my VW in the UK can charge VW about 1/2 for labour against what they charge a customer.

CC07ERS · Jan 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM

[quote=Ryephile;2831801]LOLERCOASTER!!! You warranty nuts need to take a deep breath; the engine isn't going to explode and the suspension fall off and all airbags deploy because you properly changed the bumper yourself versus some monkey getting paid virturally nothing with no reason to do a proper job.

well said ryephile fitting your own kit is so easy when you have the mini pdf some people wont change a bulb incase it invalidates the wonderful warranty

Dec 29th, 2006, 05:47 PM	#1
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	r56 aero kit anybody got the pdf for the new aero kit fitting iam not paying bmw thanx in advance

Dec 29th, 2006, 06:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jordan210 Cyber Police My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In your House ! Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 9,577 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by b4mmy (original) No but I just noticed today that the aero kit I got came with John Cooper Works sills! SO that what makes it the JCW Aero kit MINI2's Resident Dyslexic

Dec 29th, 2006, 07:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 1,217 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original) found it on motoring file £300 saved on the fitting would be concerned about your warranty tho... Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 1,217 Offline	i wouldn't say it's rubbish mate. they're well within their rights to void your warranty because of work carried out by a third party ! Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 1,217 Offline	no, the third party fitting of it. ie, the fitting was not done by BMW approved fitters. Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

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Dec 29th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
b4mmy m4nch3s73r Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 95 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original) anybody got the pdf for the new aero kit fitting iam not paying bmw thanx in advance No but I just noticed today that the aero kit I got came with John Cooper Works sills!

Dec 29th, 2006, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	found it on motoring file £300 saved on the fitting

Dec 29th, 2006, 06:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
b4mmy m4nch3s73r Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 95 Offline	so how much was it?

Dec 29th, 2006, 07:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) would be concerned about your warranty tho... rubbish thats just the way bmw programe you to think the kit is costing £845 from a mini dealer in stirling scotland or £1080 fitted so fitted my aero skirts to my cooper its just the same but the bumpers are different easy 2hrs done

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	void my warranty on what my bumper skirts

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	yes thats me a now bmw fitter iam not worried about it

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
b4mmy m4nch3s73r Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 95 Offline	sounds like a good price either way as the option cost me 1400 I think... and BMW got to keep my old bumpers and skirts.... does that make sense?

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by b4mmy (original) sounds like a good price either way as the option cost me 1400 I think... and BMW got to keep my old bumpers and skirts.... does that make sense? why do they want your old stuff they must be selling on ebay too

Dec 29th, 2006, 08:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
b4mmy m4nch3s73r Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 95 Offline	the car was shipped to them separately from the aero kit... so, someone must have the original bits

Dec 29th, 2006, 09:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original) i wouldn't say it's rubbish mate. they're well within their rights to void your warranty because of work carried out by a third party ! Legally, they can only refuse to do warranty work if a fault develops that they can prove is caused by the fitting of non-manufacturer parts or the fitting of. Say for example you fit a panel filter and something goes wrong with the engine, they may be able to refuse work saying it was a filter that caused it - although a decent dealer should see sense. However, if you fit a non-standard body kit, they cannot refuse work on faults if it is completely unrelated to the fault. Similarly if you want to go to a trusted independent garage for servicing or repairs, MINI (or any other manufacturer) cannot refuse any warranty work as long as you use recommended parts.

Dec 29th, 2006, 09:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 3,126 Offline	Yep, as Ken says. If, say, the back bumper started to fall off, BMW would be within their right to refuse warranty work as it was not fitted by them. However, if something goes wrong with the engine, they can't blame it on the fitting of the kit! It's pretty logical really. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Dec 29th, 2006, 10:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	One thing to remember as that dealers like warranty work, they get paid for it by MINI. They do though, charge a lower labour rate than you would pay - probably a bulk discount !

Jan 2nd, 2007, 11:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ryephile Deals Gap Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Metro-Detroit Local Time: 07:03 PM Posts: 425 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SC06GVK (original) void my warranty on what my bumper skirts LOLERCOASTER!!! You warranty nuts need to take a deep breath; the engine isn't going to explode and the suspension fall off and all airbags deploy because you properly changed the bumper yourself versus some monkey getting paid virturally nothing with no reason to do a proper job. ---> KenL: Yes the dealerships get paid for warrantly work, however they get paid a FRACTION what they would for normal service. The dealership is in its best interest to hassle you for the full monty. It is however not acceptable for them to try to rip you off for an unrelated issue; i.e. different bumper causing a manufacturing defect in a con-rod.

Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 5,216 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Ryephile (original) ---> KenL: Yes the dealerships get paid for warrantly work, however they get paid a FRACTION what they would for normal service. The dealership is in its best interest to hassle you for the full monty. It is however not acceptable for them to try to rip you off for an unrelated issue; i.e. different bumper causing a manufacturing defect in a con-rod. Yes, that is probably true. I know my VW in the UK can charge VW about 1/2 for labour against what they charge a customer. Red/Black R56 Cooper

Jan 6th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#20 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:03 AM Posts: 2,746 Offline	[quote=Ryephile;2831801]LOLERCOASTER!!! You warranty nuts need to take a deep breath; the engine isn't going to explode and the suspension fall off and all airbags deploy because you properly changed the bumper yourself versus some monkey getting paid virturally nothing with no reason to do a proper job. well said ryephile fitting your own kit is so easy when you have the mini pdf some people wont change a bulb incase it invalidates the wonderful warranty

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