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airbusA346 · Jan 4th, 2008, 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

So how on earth did ScoobyDoo fit it?

God knows

ScoobyDoo · Jan 4th, 2008, 08:38 PM

Well it doesn't sit at any strange angles or have any gaps, in fact it sits flush and inline like its supoosed to....... will see if I have a closeer up picci & post it. if not will take one tomorrow for you.

Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56?

jordangpboy · Jan 4th, 2008, 08:47 PM

Indeed it does looks great.

Also to mix it up Darren has the Aero grille with black surrounds on his Clubman.
http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1199391412

Just been looking at real OEM and the Cooper chrome grille and the Aero have the same mounting points. Im going to fit mine tomorrow.

ScoobyDoo · Jan 4th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Mr T - do you not have piccs of my grille knocking around? I can't find any.

jordangpboy · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original)

Mr T - do you not have piccs of my grille knocking around? I can't find any.

Hope this helps...

Flickr Photo Download: DSC_3571

supa-dupa-cooper · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original)

Hope this helps...

Flickr Photo Download: DSC_3571

It fits fine

And that is the JCW aero grille middle?

airbusA346 · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

It fits fine

And that is the JCW aero grille middle?

As far as I am aware Jo that is the JCW grille seen as Helen has the full JCW kit.

ScoobyDoo · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:18 PM

Airbus is right - thats the JCW grille with the original chrome Cooper surrounds. Perfect fit.

Thanks for that Mr T

supa-dupa-cooper · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original)

Airbus is right - thats the JCW grille with the original chrome Cooper surrounds. Perfect fit.

Thanks for that Mr T

Hmm

Pity I dont have a JCW grille to hand, could have pulled the demo car apart and tried it

airbusA346 · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

Hmm

Pity I dont have a JCW grille to hand, could have pulled the demo car apart and tried it

I have one, but I'm a bit far away from you.

Stiggy · Jan 5th, 2008, 09:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original)

Well it doesn't sit at any strange angles or have any gaps, in fact it sits flush and inline like its supoosed to....... will see if I have a closeer up picci & post it. if not will take one tomorrow for you.

Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56?

Yes, but you've got the JCW front bumper as well as the grile. The problem seems to be when you want to use the black centre of a JCW grille and the chrome surrounds from a Cooper.

Like Jo, I want to put the black grill plus chrome surrounds on a Cooper D.

jordangpboy - let us know how you get on.

ScoobyDoo · Jan 5th, 2008, 09:44 AM

I know I have the JCW bumper, Stiggy, but according to Hickster's pictures the chrome one still shouldn't fit as its a different shape to the black JCW surround, but it does.
And what about the guy who bought my black surround and fitted it to a Cooper grille on a standard bumper?

andrewcregan · Jan 5th, 2008, 09:54 AM

I have been following this thread with great interest for a while - thinking about a black grille into my standard Dooper chrome surround.
Mini/BMW certainly don't make things easy for us

I have PMed Chris at Woodmans, to ask his opinion on what should fit. When I hear back from him I shall pass the info on.
Good luck trying to sort this out

, I am currently bamboozled

jordangpboy · Jan 5th, 2008, 10:58 AM

Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them.

Hickster · Jan 5th, 2008, 11:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original)

Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56?

That might be more important than you think. There were quite a large number of subtle changes between the early R56's and the 2008 model R56 (which my Dooper is) so it's entirely possible MINI made slight changes to the grille and surround.

Also, the Cooper petrol and Cooper D grilles are quite different in shape.

One thing not shown on my pictures is that although the clips for the black and chrome lower surrounds don't meet at the same point, the holes in both the aero grille and the standard grille are in line - it's just that because of the deeper chrome grille, they don't reach when you try to fit it onto the aero grille.

Hickster · Jan 5th, 2008, 11:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original)

Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them.

I used a flat bladed screwdriver to pry out the head of the push rivet. You should then be able to pull the whole rivet out.

This is a basic industrial push rivet. Obviously the ones on the MINI are slightly larger but they work in the same way.

Chip used a special tool, which is a far more reliable method than the way I did it.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2996508-post15.html

Stiggy · Jan 5th, 2008, 11:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original)

Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them.

Yes, there are two rings of plastic, and you just gently prise out the front inner circle with a pair of flat blade screwdrivers; one each side. I was worried about breaking something, but with some not-so-gentle persuasion, they come out.

What I want to know is how to unclip the bottom of the grill. Does the whole thing slide forwards once the top 4 clips are undone? I can't get my hand anyhere near the bottom of the back of the grill otherwise.

Hickster · Jan 5th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original)

What I want to know is how to unclip the bottom of the grill. Does the whole thing slide forwards once the top 4 clips are undone? I can't get my hand anyhere near the bottom of the back of the grill otherwise.

There are 4 moulded spring clips that hold the bottom half of the grille to the bumber (they are acutally part of the grille moulding). You need to use a fairly long screwdriver to close the prongs and thereby release the spring from the bumper. I found that once I'd uncliped the first two on one side, the rest kind of popped out by themselves.

Matts Mini Adventure · Jan 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM

I may be late but you can fit a cooper s grill to a cooper. and i was lead to belive that the dooper has the same grill its just the bonnet that is different

Stiggy · Jan 5th, 2008, 08:48 PM

I'm sorry but I didn't understand that post. Was it a statement or a question?

Are you saying you can fit an 'S' grill on a Cooper D?

Jan 4th, 2008, 08:27 PM	#41
airbusA346 Confused By Certain Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,647 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original) So how on earth did ScoobyDoo fit it? God knows Owner Of The Last Word Of 2007 :: My Website The Orange Blob As My Avatar Is The Mascot Of JetAlliance Racing Called 'Carli'.

Jan 4th, 2008, 08:38 PM	#42 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 1,420 Offline	Well it doesn't sit at any strange angles or have any gaps, in fact it sits flush and inline like its supoosed to....... will see if I have a closeer up picci & post it. if not will take one tomorrow for you. Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56? http://www.dbrally.net

Jan 4th, 2008, 08:47 PM	#43 (permalink)
jordangpboy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 214 Offline	Indeed it does looks great. Also to mix it up Darren has the Aero grille with black surrounds on his Clubman. http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...1&d=1199391412 Just been looking at real OEM and the Cooper chrome grille and the Aero have the same mounting points. Im going to fit mine tomorrow. www.dbrally.net MINI Cooper R50 CR/W - Sept 06 - Oct 07 MINI Cooper R56 PW/B - Oct 07 - ....

Jan 4th, 2008, 08:52 PM	#44 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 1,420 Offline	Mr T - do you not have piccs of my grille knocking around? I can't find any. http://www.dbrally.net

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#45 (permalink)
jordangpboy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 214 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original) Mr T - do you not have piccs of my grille knocking around? I can't find any. Hope this helps... Flickr Photo Download: DSC_3571 www.dbrally.net MINI Cooper R50 CR/W - Sept 06 - Oct 07 MINI Cooper R56 PW/B - Oct 07 - ....

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Jan 4th, 2008, 09:09 PM	#46 (permalink)
supa-dupa-cooper In S Club Heaven!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cloud MINI Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 19,029 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original) Hope this helps... Flickr Photo Download: DSC_3571 It fits fine And that is the JCW aero grille middle? * The Italian Job 2008......Team 50 - Sponsor Us Here!* UNION JACK OWNERS CLUB GB002

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#47 (permalink)
airbusA346 Confused By Certain Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,647 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original) It fits fine And that is the JCW aero grille middle? As far as I am aware Jo that is the JCW grille seen as Helen has the full JCW kit. Owner Of The Last Word Of 2007 :: My Website The Orange Blob As My Avatar Is The Mascot Of JetAlliance Racing Called 'Carli'.

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:18 PM	#48 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 1,420 Offline	Airbus is right - thats the JCW grille with the original chrome Cooper surrounds. Perfect fit. Thanks for that Mr T http://www.dbrally.net

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM	#49 (permalink)
supa-dupa-cooper In S Club Heaven!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cloud MINI Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 19,029 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original) Airbus is right - thats the JCW grille with the original chrome Cooper surrounds. Perfect fit. Thanks for that Mr T Hmm Pity I dont have a JCW grille to hand, could have pulled the demo car apart and tried it * The Italian Job 2008......Team 50 - Sponsor Us Here!* UNION JACK OWNERS CLUB GB002

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:27 PM	#50 (permalink)
airbusA346 Confused By Certain Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,647 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original) Hmm Pity I dont have a JCW grille to hand, could have pulled the demo car apart and tried it I have one, but I'm a bit far away from you. Owner Of The Last Word Of 2007 :: My Website The Orange Blob As My Avatar Is The Mascot Of JetAlliance Racing Called 'Carli'.

Jan 5th, 2008, 09:24 AM	#51 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 376 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original) Well it doesn't sit at any strange angles or have any gaps, in fact it sits flush and inline like its supoosed to....... will see if I have a closeer up picci & post it. if not will take one tomorrow for you. Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56? Yes, but you've got the JCW front bumper as well as the grile. The problem seems to be when you want to use the black centre of a JCW grille and the chrome surrounds from a Cooper. Like Jo, I want to put the black grill plus chrome surrounds on a Cooper D. jordangpboy - let us know how you get on.

Jan 5th, 2008, 09:44 AM	#52 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 1,420 Offline	I know I have the JCW bumper, Stiggy, but according to Hickster's pictures the chrome one still shouldn't fit as its a different shape to the black JCW surround, but it does. And what about the guy who bought my black surround and fitted it to a Cooper grille on a standard bumper? http://www.dbrally.net

Jan 5th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#53 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 626 Offline	I have been following this thread with great interest for a while - thinking about a black grille into my standard Dooper chrome surround. Mini/BMW certainly don't make things easy for us I have PMed Chris at Woodmans, to ask his opinion on what should fit. When I hear back from him I shall pass the info on. Good luck trying to sort this out , I am currently bamboozled

Jan 5th, 2008, 10:58 AM	#54 (permalink)
jordangpboy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Birmingham Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 214 Offline	Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them. www.dbrally.net MINI Cooper R50 CR/W - Sept 06 - Oct 07 MINI Cooper R56 PW/B - Oct 07 - ....

Jan 5th, 2008, 11:10 AM	#55 (permalink)
Hickster E's H2B My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The SOUTH Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,375 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original) Just an idea, probably won't apply - but would it make a difference that mine is a Nov. 2006 build not a 2007 R56? That might be more important than you think. There were quite a large number of subtle changes between the early R56's and the 2008 model R56 (which my Dooper is) so it's entirely possible MINI made slight changes to the grille and surround. Also, the Cooper petrol and Cooper D grilles are quite different in shape. One thing not shown on my pictures is that although the clips for the black and chrome lower surrounds don't meet at the same point, the holes in both the aero grille and the standard grille are in line - it's just that because of the deeper chrome grille, they don't reach when you try to fit it onto the aero grille. D-lite-full

Jan 5th, 2008, 11:16 AM	#56 (permalink)
Hickster E's H2B My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The SOUTH Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,375 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original) Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them. I used a flat bladed screwdriver to pry out the head of the push rivet. You should then be able to pull the whole rivet out. This is a basic industrial push rivet. Obviously the ones on the MINI are slightly larger but they work in the same way. Chip used a special tool, which is a far more reliable method than the way I did it. http://www.mini2.com/forum/2996508-post15.html D-lite-full

Jan 5th, 2008, 11:29 AM	#57 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 376 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by jordangpboy (original) Well I have the grille, but do you think I can get the 4 plastic expanding rivets out of the existing grille!! Any ideas? Everyone says they are easy to remove...I just cant see how it can be done without wrecking them. Yes, there are two rings of plastic, and you just gently prise out the front inner circle with a pair of flat blade screwdrivers; one each side. I was worried about breaking something, but with some not-so-gentle persuasion, they come out. What I want to know is how to unclip the bottom of the grill. Does the whole thing slide forwards once the top 4 clips are undone? I can't get my hand anyhere near the bottom of the back of the grill otherwise.

Jan 5th, 2008, 02:17 PM	#58 (permalink)
Hickster E's H2B My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The SOUTH Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 7,375 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original) What I want to know is how to unclip the bottom of the grill. Does the whole thing slide forwards once the top 4 clips are undone? I can't get my hand anyhere near the bottom of the back of the grill otherwise. There are 4 moulded spring clips that hold the bottom half of the grille to the bumber (they are acutally part of the grille moulding). You need to use a fairly long screwdriver to close the prongs and thereby release the spring from the bumper. I found that once I'd uncliped the first two on one side, the rest kind of popped out by themselves. D-lite-full

Jan 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM	#59 (permalink)
Matts Mini Adventure LMC001 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lincoln Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 830 Offline	I may be late but you can fit a cooper s grill to a cooper. and i was lead to belive that the dooper has the same grill its just the bonnet that is different Click For Lincolnshire MINI Club Website

Jan 5th, 2008, 08:48 PM	#60 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 376 Offline	I'm sorry but I didn't understand that post. Was it a statement or a question? Are you saying you can fit an 'S' grill on a Cooper D?

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