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Stiggy · Jan 13th, 2008, 05:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by linzy (original)

I am wondering whether this can be done to a mini cooper.... also can you have a normal mini cooper grill that is black??

The Cooper D and the Cooper S have the same shape bonnet, but the ONE and Cooper are different.

However, you should be able to put a black JCW grille on a Cooper. I'm guessing the lower chrome surround would still be a problem, but there must be a fix for it.

Once we get this all sorted out (not long now hopefully!) I will put up a list of components and part numbers for everyone.

adam_Randell · Jan 13th, 2008, 08:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by linzy (original)

Having recently ordered a mini today!! so excited i am wondering whether this can be done to a mini cooper.... also can you have a normal mini cooper grill that is black??

Linzy, congrats on ordering your MINI and welcome to MINI2

Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original)

The Cooper D and the Cooper S have the same shape bonnet, but the ONE and Cooper are different. This means you can't put a Cooper S grille on a Cooper.

However, you should be able to put a black JCW grille on a Cooper. I'm guessing the lower chrome surround would still be a problem, but there must be a fix for it.

Once we get this all sorted out (not long now hopefully!) I will put up a list of components and part numbers for everyone.

You can indeed have a Cooper S grill on a Cooper as i have one on mine, and you can get a normal grill in black.

andrewcregan · Jan 13th, 2008, 08:58 AM

Linz, why not get back onto Dave at the dealers, and have your preferred grille fitted predelivery?

Stiggy · Jan 13th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original)

You can indeed have a Cooper S grill on a Cooper as i have one on mine, and you can get a normal grill in black.

Sorry if I've got it wrong. I know the upper chrome part of the Cooper and S are different, so I just assumed it wouldn't fit.

andrewcregan · Jan 13th, 2008, 04:29 PM

I have some more answers for you guys, and a bit more feedback may help (stiggy?)

Looked in my car today, and found my old Chrome grille, removed from the Cooper D. I had thought that the grille and the lower chrome surround were 2 pieces. However, the grille and the lower surround have clearly come out in a single piece.

What I therefore summise is that the Cooper S grille came attached to the lower chrome suround (hence a Cooper S lower surround) and went into my car in a single piece.

This goes along with what stiggy had suggested, as to why the lower grille had to be trimmed.
A Cooper S lower surround will not fit without a minor trim. As previously mentioned, this trimming is 99.5% invisible.

Hope this helps

supa-dupa-cooper · Jan 13th, 2008, 04:31 PM

Whats the best way to trim it?

andrewcregan · Jan 13th, 2008, 04:46 PM

Thanks to stiggy for providing the photo

.

The arrow points to the dotted line showing what needs to be trimmed off, to make it fit a Cooper D.

Stiggy · Jan 13th, 2008, 06:24 PM

Nice annotation Andrew!

As for how to trim it, I still haven't got around to trying it, and I'm open to suggestions! The grill is chrome plated plastic, so it shouldn't be too hard to cut with a hacksaw or jigsaw, but the trick will be getting a smooth finish.

Lolance · Jan 13th, 2008, 07:17 PM

You guys should open a bodyshop ir summit...

andrewcregan · Jan 13th, 2008, 07:42 PM

All part of the MINI2 service

Wind Diesel · Jan 13th, 2008, 09:27 PM

I' just dont get it ... maybe beacuse i'm from denmark, and english is only my 2'nd language.

If i have a Cooper D

Can i order, RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper FRONT PANEL - part number 7 on the picture, and make it fit on the original crome front parts with no problems what so ever ?

Stiggy · Jan 14th, 2008, 06:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wind Diesel (original)

If i have a Cooper D

Can i order, RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper FRONT PANEL - part number 7 on the picture, and make it fit on the original crome front parts with no problems what so ever ?

No.

The diagram shows the JCW front bumper and grille (also known as "M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE II").

First, for a Cooper D you will need part number 51110404123 as the JCW grille for a ONE/Cooper and Cooper D/S are different.

Second, when you try to fit the JCW grille you will find the lower chrome from the Cooper D will not fit - it's far too deep.

You will need to fit the lower chrome from a Cooper S which is part number 51112751625. This isn't a perfect fit either, so you have to trim the ends slightly to make it fit the Cooper D bumper.

Other alternatives:

You can use the grille from a Cooper S: you might find these cheaper on eBay or if your dealer has some left over from fitting the Aero or JCW body kit. Or, You can fit the whole front bumper from an S and avoid the lower chrome surround problems.

Or, get the whole JCW kit!

andrewcregan · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

Whats the best way to trim it?

Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder

.
Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job

.

supa-dupa-cooper · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original)

Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder

.
Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job

.

Hmm..methinks i'll get someone else to do it for me

Stiggy you cant live very far

Stiggy · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original)

Hmm..methinks i'll get someone else to do it for me

Stiggy you cant live very far

Cheeky! I'm not too far away, so if you want to meet in Specialist Cars' car park with a screwdriver I'm happy to fit your grille!

I promise I will get mine fitted soon. However, when I went to borrow some tools from my Dad, everyone said "We really like the chrome grille"!

andrewcregan · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:16 PM

After my dealer did such an excellent job on mine, I am glad I took it nowhere else - or even tried it myself

.
If you are brave, and used to fiddling with cars, Stiggy shows it clearly can be done

andrewcregan · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original)

"We really like the chrome grille"!

Bloomin' typical. If it makes you feel any better Stiggy, everyone prefers mine with the new grille

. So go for it!

supa-dupa-cooper · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original)

Cheeky! I'm not too far away, so if you want to meet in Specialist Cars' car park with a screwdriver I'm happy to fit your grille!

I promise I will get mine fitted soon. However, when I went to borrow some tools from my Dad, everyone said "We really like the chrome grille"!

They might think we've come to wreck their cars

And then I would get evicted

Lol I cant really comment on the Chrome grille yet as ive not even seen my car

but I know I want the black one now

Stiggy · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original)

Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder

.
Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job

A grinder is a great idea actually. I don't have one, but I know a friend who does...

andrewcregan · Jan 14th, 2008, 04:47 PM

A grinder was my dealer's weapon of choice

.
It clearly does a good job, and you can just take a tiny bit off at a time.
Until you get that perfect fit

.

Jan 13th, 2008, 05:48 AM	#141
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by linzy (original) I am wondering whether this can be done to a mini cooper.... also can you have a normal mini cooper grill that is black?? The Cooper D and the Cooper S have the same shape bonnet, but the ONE and Cooper are different. However, you should be able to put a black JCW grille on a Cooper. I'm guessing the lower chrome surround would still be a problem, but there must be a fix for it. Once we get this all sorted out (not long now hopefully!) I will put up a list of components and part numbers for everyone. Last edited by Stiggy : Jan 13th, 2008 at 11:44 AM. Reason: I'm told I'm wrong!

Jan 13th, 2008, 08:48 AM	#142 (permalink)
adam_Randell 07' Cooper My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Droitwich Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 1,235 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by linzy (original) Having recently ordered a mini today!! so excited i am wondering whether this can be done to a mini cooper.... also can you have a normal mini cooper grill that is black?? Linzy, congrats on ordering your MINI and welcome to MINI2 Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original) The Cooper D and the Cooper S have the same shape bonnet, but the ONE and Cooper are different. This means you can't put a Cooper S grille on a Cooper. However, you should be able to put a black JCW grille on a Cooper. I'm guessing the lower chrome surround would still be a problem, but there must be a fix for it. Once we get this all sorted out (not long now hopefully!) I will put up a list of components and part numbers for everyone. You can indeed have a Cooper S grill on a Cooper as i have one on mine, and you can get a normal grill in black. adam_randell www.midzmodified.com

Jan 13th, 2008, 04:31 PM	#146 (permalink)
supa-dupa-cooper In S Club Heaven!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cloud MINI Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 20,444 Offline	Whats the best way to trim it? * The Italian Job 2008......Team 50 - Website Here!* UNION JACK OWNERS CLUB GB002

Jan 13th, 2008, 04:46 PM	#147 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	Thanks to stiggy for providing the photo . The arrow points to the dotted line showing what needs to be trimmed off, to make it fit a Cooper D. Attached Thumbnails

Jan 13th, 2008, 09:27 PM	#151 (permalink)
Wind Diesel Living in my MINI dream ! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vejle Local Time: 04:09 AM Posts: 217 Offline	I' just dont get it ... maybe beacuse i'm from denmark, and english is only my 2'nd language. If i have a Cooper D Can i order, RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper FRONT PANEL - part number 7 on the picture, and make it fit on the original crome front parts with no problems what so ever ? Heggelund&Wind Photographix-Mini Dooper R56 LiB/W - My MINI Blog

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Jan 13th, 2008, 08:58 AM	#143 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	Linz, why not get back onto Dave at the dealers, and have your preferred grille fitted predelivery?

Jan 13th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#144 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original) You can indeed have a Cooper S grill on a Cooper as i have one on mine, and you can get a normal grill in black. Sorry if I've got it wrong. I know the upper chrome part of the Cooper and S are different, so I just assumed it wouldn't fit.

Jan 13th, 2008, 04:29 PM	#145 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	I have some more answers for you guys, and a bit more feedback may help (stiggy?) Looked in my car today, and found my old Chrome grille, removed from the Cooper D. I had thought that the grille and the lower chrome surround were 2 pieces. However, the grille and the lower surround have clearly come out in a single piece. What I therefore summise is that the Cooper S grille came attached to the lower chrome suround (hence a Cooper S lower surround) and went into my car in a single piece. This goes along with what stiggy had suggested, as to why the lower grille had to be trimmed. A Cooper S lower surround will not fit without a minor trim. As previously mentioned, this trimming is 99.5% invisible. Hope this helps

Jan 13th, 2008, 06:24 PM	#148 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Nice annotation Andrew! As for how to trim it, I still haven't got around to trying it, and I'm open to suggestions! The grill is chrome plated plastic, so it shouldn't be too hard to cut with a hacksaw or jigsaw, but the trick will be getting a smooth finish.

Jan 13th, 2008, 07:17 PM	#149 (permalink)
Lolance Dooper Scooper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sleazeford Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 463 Offline	You guys should open a bodyshop ir summit...

Jan 13th, 2008, 07:42 PM	#150 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	All part of the MINI2 service

Jan 14th, 2008, 06:13 AM	#152 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Wind Diesel (original) If i have a Cooper D Can i order, RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper FRONT PANEL - part number 7 on the picture, and make it fit on the original crome front parts with no problems what so ever ? No. The diagram shows the JCW front bumper and grille (also known as "M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE II"). First, for a Cooper D you will need part number 51110404123 as the JCW grille for a ONE/Cooper and Cooper D/S are different. Second, when you try to fit the JCW grille you will find the lower chrome from the Cooper D will not fit - it's far too deep. You will need to fit the lower chrome from a Cooper S which is part number 51112751625. This isn't a perfect fit either, so you have to trim the ends slightly to make it fit the Cooper D bumper. Other alternatives: You can use the grille from a Cooper S: you might find these cheaper on eBay or if your dealer has some left over from fitting the Aero or JCW body kit. Or, You can fit the whole front bumper from an S and avoid the lower chrome surround problems. Or, get the whole JCW kit!

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:02 PM	#153 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original) Whats the best way to trim it? Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder . Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job .

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:08 PM	#154 (permalink)
supa-dupa-cooper In S Club Heaven!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cloud MINI Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 20,444 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original) Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder . Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job . Hmm..methinks i'll get someone else to do it for me Stiggy you cant live very far * The Italian Job 2008......Team 50 - Website Here!* UNION JACK OWNERS CLUB GB002

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:14 PM	#155 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by supa-dupa-cooper (original) Hmm..methinks i'll get someone else to do it for me Stiggy you cant live very far Cheeky! I'm not too far away, so if you want to meet in Specialist Cars' car park with a screwdriver I'm happy to fit your grille! I promise I will get mine fitted soon. However, when I went to borrow some tools from my Dad, everyone said "We really like the chrome grille"!

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:16 PM	#156 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	After my dealer did such an excellent job on mine, I am glad I took it nowhere else - or even tried it myself . If you are brave, and used to fiddling with cars, Stiggy shows it clearly can be done

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM	#157 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original) "We really like the chrome grille"! Bloomin' typical. If it makes you feel any better Stiggy, everyone prefers mine with the new grille . So go for it!

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#158 (permalink)
supa-dupa-cooper In S Club Heaven!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cloud MINI Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 20,444 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original) Cheeky! I'm not too far away, so if you want to meet in Specialist Cars' car park with a screwdriver I'm happy to fit your grille! I promise I will get mine fitted soon. However, when I went to borrow some tools from my Dad, everyone said "We really like the chrome grille"! They might think we've come to wreck their cars And then I would get evicted Lol I cant really comment on the Chrome grille yet as ive not even seen my car but I know I want the black one now * The Italian Job 2008......Team 50 - Website Here!* UNION JACK OWNERS CLUB GB002

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:24 PM	#159 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original) Asked the question for you - he used an angle grinder . Sounds kind of crude, but did a superb job A grinder is a great idea actually. I don't have one, but I know a friend who does...

Jan 14th, 2008, 04:47 PM	#160 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 03:09 AM Posts: 656 Offline	A grinder was my dealer's weapon of choice . It clearly does a good job, and you can just take a tiny bit off at a time. Until you get that perfect fit .

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