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BERT R56 · Jan 11th, 2007, 12:23 PM

Just to say that overall I'm massively impressed so far with Mrs Bert's Cooper. There are some minor niggles (see cracked windscreen post) but I guess these sort of things could be expected with "1st batch of type"

I have noticed a rough dry sounding growl from the transmission at around 2k RPM when under medium/heavy load........

Anyone noticed the same? Not sure if this is a fault or just normal 6sp transmission sound?

Thanks to all those involved for such a good forum brilliant!

fozzy2k · Jan 11th, 2007, 09:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BERT R56 (original)

Just to say that overall I'm massively impressed so far with Mrs Bert's Cooper. There are some minor niggles (see cracked windscreen post) but I guess these sort of things could be expected with "1st batch of type"

I have noticed a rough dry sounding growl from the transmission at around 2k RPM when under medium/heavy load........

Anyone noticed the same? Not sure if this is a fault or just normal 6sp transmission sound?

Thanks to all those involved for such a good forum brilliant!

Yes ive noticed this on mine when doing 30 in 3rd and i put my foot down abit going up slight inclines im not sure if its the exhaust or something to do with the engine. will be nice if some one finds out what it is tho.

matt.morrow · Jan 20th, 2007, 06:52 PM

Same with mine, sounds like an old banger!

rec · Jan 20th, 2007, 07:14 PM

not noticed it in mine at all.

Rob PLCPR · Jan 22nd, 2007, 09:07 AM

My parents have that complaint with their 56 plate BMW 3 Series (Manual) hmmmm strange one to say the least

STU56 · Jan 28th, 2007, 05:29 PM

Drove 3 all the same, does not sound to good at times, whots your dealer said?

jamie_flynn69 · Jan 28th, 2007, 06:34 PM

same with mine as well - done 500 miles so far

mine is a company car and dealer is mles away - anyone have an offical line on this before I have to part with my baby for a few weeks ?

ta

STU56 · Jan 29th, 2007, 04:40 PM

Hi Jamie,
I have been repairing cars for over 30 yrs, heard this noise on many makes of cars the problem goes no better or worst with mileage. Report it to your Dealership & await their response, I have made mine aware they are awaiting a response from BMW - i would wait until they have an answer before booking it in.
Stu

craigd · Jan 29th, 2007, 05:45 PM

this may or may not be related. I had my car in at the dealers today as I have found what I can only describe as a rattle/grumble from low down in the engine/underbody at approx 1000rpm to 1500rpm. It happens in all gears at the same rpm, thought it might have been the manifold vibrating off of something metal, but the dealer has said they can't find anything wrong with it. They also said that their demo makes the same noise, so it's obviously not a fault

I would be interested to hear if this is the same fault or if this is something like Popey's fault.... I don't know how the transmission should sound in the "S"...

STU56 · Jan 29th, 2007, 08:38 PM

Craigd
Mine is not an S but my cooper has exactly the same noise you have described.
any problems with wind noise, pulsing fuel gauge LED or noisey starter from cold

MiniMpi · Jan 29th, 2007, 08:46 PM

Hi Stu56,
I also have a sort of grumble/rattle when at low revs pulling off or when in slightly too high a gear.
My feeling is that it could be exhaust related,possibly a heat sheild or something?
Also when I switch off the engine the car shudders slightly! Possibly related.
And my starter also is noisey from a cold start!
Fergal.

jamie_flynn69 · Jan 29th, 2007, 09:04 PM

thanks for the advice - think i will drop the dealer a note tomorrow regarding this.....

As its a Company car im not too concerned with missing her for a bit - might try and get an S in return for a few days.....

STU56 · Jan 29th, 2007, 09:15 PM

fergal is yours an S, vibration at low speeds definately transmission noise, heard same noise in other manufactures vehicles ie focus/mondeo, dont worry to much about it at present.No shudder when switch off, slight shudder on idle but tickover lower than old model suspect to lower emissions, turn A/C on increases revs and shudder dissapears. ps my car is superb on fuel
stuart

KenL · Jan 29th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Is this related to pulling away when the revs are too low - that is, labouring the car?

You will get a shudder through engine/transmission if it is struggling.

MiniMpi · Jan 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by STU56 (original)

fergal is yours an S, vibration at low speeds definately transmission noise, heard same noise in other manufactures vehicles ie focus/mondeo, dont worry to much about it at present.No shudder when switch off, slight shudder on idle but tickover lower than old model suspect to lower emissions, turn A/C on increases revs and shudder dissapears. ps my car is superb on fuel
stuart

No it's a Cooper.
Shudder is VERY slight,I don't notice it really but my brother is obsessed with it

Fergal.

MiniMpi · Jan 29th, 2007, 10:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original)

Is this related to pulling away when the revs are too low - that is, labouring the car?

You will get a shudder through engine/transmission if it is struggling.

Not really,just low revs.
Fergal.

BERT R56 · Jan 30th, 2007, 02:27 PM

Mine seems to be getting worse now. Sounds like it's very dry. Cant believe this is normal.

I took it back to Victoria Milton Keynes and got them to check the fluid level - they said it was low but didn't have any to top it up!! I've booked back in for the top up in a couple of weeks. I might ask to drive the demonstrator to compare.

Not happy with this noise

will keep you posted

craigd · Jan 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by STU56 (original)

Craigd
Mine is not an S but my cooper has exactly the same noise you have described.
any problems with wind noise, pulsing fuel gauge LED or noisey starter from cold

not any problems with wind noise, but I do have a bit of a noise of rushing water... The noise I reported has been checked out by the dealer and I have been told that there is no way that it is exhaust related...

we shall wait and see..

Gazzer J · Feb 2nd, 2007, 04:57 PM

Took a Cooper R56 for a test drive today and heard the exact same grumbling noise you mentioned, I guess about 1500 - 2000 revs, in 2nd - 3rd gear. Sales guy said he didn't notice anything, which is a laugh! BERTR56-I'd be interested in any progress you make with Victoria in MK.

wiggis · Feb 4th, 2007, 04:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by fozzy2k (original)

Yes ive noticed this on mine when doing 30 in 3rd and i put my foot down abit going up slight inclines im not sure if its the exhaust or something to do with the engine. will be nice if some one finds out what it is tho.

30 mph in 3rd gear sounds like a problem to me - you'd only be at about 2,200 rpm. Surely flooring the throttle at that speed is going to make it struggle, and even worse if you're going up a hill.

I don't understand why you wouldn't be in 2nd gear at a more respectable 3,200 rpm ?

Makes me wonder if these strange transmission sounds are just the engine labouring because too high a gear is selected for the road and engine speed ? Anyone got a recording of the sounds they can share ?

Jan 11th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#1
BERT R56 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 52 Offline	Transmission Noise Just to say that overall I'm massively impressed so far with Mrs Bert's Cooper. There are some minor niggles (see cracked windscreen post) but I guess these sort of things could be expected with "1st batch of type" I have noticed a rough dry sounding growl from the transmission at around 2k RPM when under medium/heavy load........ Anyone noticed the same? Not sure if this is a fault or just normal 6sp transmission sound? Thanks to all those involved for such a good forum brilliant!

Jan 20th, 2007, 07:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
rec Not a happy bunny. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotthall MINI Often Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 1,217 Offline	not noticed it in mine at all. Got an R56 ? Flaunt It ! http://www.mini2.com/forum/general-d...st-ya-r56.html

Jan 22nd, 2007, 09:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rob PLCPR PW/B R56 Cooper is here! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Carlisle, Cumbria Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 178 Offline	My parents have that complaint with their 56 plate BMW 3 Series (Manual) hmmmm strange one to say the least PW/B R56 Cooper is here!!! Lovin it, Lovin it, Lovin it!!!!

Jan 29th, 2007, 08:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 561 Offline	Hi Stu56, I also have a sort of grumble/rattle when at low revs pulling off or when in slightly too high a gear. My feeling is that it could be exhaust related,possibly a heat sheild or something? Also when I switch off the engine the car shudders slightly! Possibly related. And my starter also is noisey from a cold start! Fergal. It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

Jan 29th, 2007, 09:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 5,210 Offline	Is this related to pulling away when the revs are too low - that is, labouring the car? You will get a shudder through engine/transmission if it is struggling. Red/Black R56 Cooper

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Jan 11th, 2007, 09:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
fozzy2k MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Derbyshire Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 31 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by BERT R56 (original) Just to say that overall I'm massively impressed so far with Mrs Bert's Cooper. There are some minor niggles (see cracked windscreen post) but I guess these sort of things could be expected with "1st batch of type" I have noticed a rough dry sounding growl from the transmission at around 2k RPM when under medium/heavy load........ Anyone noticed the same? Not sure if this is a fault or just normal 6sp transmission sound? Thanks to all those involved for such a good forum brilliant! Yes ive noticed this on mine when doing 30 in 3rd and i put my foot down abit going up slight inclines im not sure if its the exhaust or something to do with the engine. will be nice if some one finds out what it is tho.

Jan 20th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
matt.morrow MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bangor, N.I. Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 388 Offline	Same with mine, sounds like an old banger!

Jan 28th, 2007, 05:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
STU56 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Drove 3 all the same, does not sound to good at times, whots your dealer said?

Jan 28th, 2007, 06:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
jamie_flynn69 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brighton Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 16 Offline	same with mine as well - done 500 miles so far mine is a company car and dealer is mles away - anyone have an offical line on this before I have to part with my baby for a few weeks ? ta

Jan 29th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
STU56 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Hi Jamie, I have been repairing cars for over 30 yrs, heard this noise on many makes of cars the problem goes no better or worst with mileage. Report it to your Dealership & await their response, I have made mine aware they are awaiting a response from BMW - i would wait until they have an answer before booking it in. Stu

Jan 29th, 2007, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
craigd MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 129 Offline	this may or may not be related. I had my car in at the dealers today as I have found what I can only describe as a rattle/grumble from low down in the engine/underbody at approx 1000rpm to 1500rpm. It happens in all gears at the same rpm, thought it might have been the manifold vibrating off of something metal, but the dealer has said they can't find anything wrong with it. They also said that their demo makes the same noise, so it's obviously not a fault I would be interested to hear if this is the same fault or if this is something like Popey's fault.... I don't know how the transmission should sound in the "S"...

Jan 29th, 2007, 08:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
STU56 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 23 Offline	Craigd Mine is not an S but my cooper has exactly the same noise you have described. any problems with wind noise, pulsing fuel gauge LED or noisey starter from cold

Jan 29th, 2007, 09:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
jamie_flynn69 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brighton Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 16 Offline	thanks for the advice - think i will drop the dealer a note tomorrow regarding this..... As its a Company car im not too concerned with missing her for a bit - might try and get an S in return for a few days.....

Jan 29th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
STU56 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 23 Offline	fergal is yours an S, vibration at low speeds definately transmission noise, heard same noise in other manufactures vehicles ie focus/mondeo, dont worry to much about it at present.No shudder when switch off, slight shudder on idle but tickover lower than old model suspect to lower emissions, turn A/C on increases revs and shudder dissapears. ps my car is superb on fuel stuart

Jan 29th, 2007, 10:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 561 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by STU56 (original) fergal is yours an S, vibration at low speeds definately transmission noise, heard same noise in other manufactures vehicles ie focus/mondeo, dont worry to much about it at present.No shudder when switch off, slight shudder on idle but tickover lower than old model suspect to lower emissions, turn A/C on increases revs and shudder dissapears. ps my car is superb on fuel stuart No it's a Cooper. Shudder is VERY slight,I don't notice it really but my brother is obsessed with it Fergal. It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

Jan 29th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 561 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original) Is this related to pulling away when the revs are too low - that is, labouring the car? You will get a shudder through engine/transmission if it is struggling. Not really,just low revs. Fergal. It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

Jan 30th, 2007, 02:27 PM	#17 (permalink)
BERT R56 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 52 Offline	Mine seems to be getting worse now. Sounds like it's very dry. Cant believe this is normal. I took it back to Victoria Milton Keynes and got them to check the fluid level - they said it was low but didn't have any to top it up!! I've booked back in for the top up in a couple of weeks. I might ask to drive the demonstrator to compare. Not happy with this noise will keep you posted

Jan 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
craigd MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 129 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by STU56 (original) Craigd Mine is not an S but my cooper has exactly the same noise you have described. any problems with wind noise, pulsing fuel gauge LED or noisey starter from cold not any problems with wind noise, but I do have a bit of a noise of rushing water... The noise I reported has been checked out by the dealer and I have been told that there is no way that it is exhaust related... we shall wait and see..

Feb 2nd, 2007, 04:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
Gazzer J MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:25 PM Posts: 29 Offline	Took a Cooper R56 for a test drive today and heard the exact same grumbling noise you mentioned, I guess about 1500 - 2000 revs, in 2nd - 3rd gear. Sales guy said he didn't notice anything, which is a laugh! BERTR56-I'd be interested in any progress you make with Victoria in MK.

Feb 4th, 2007, 04:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
wiggis VW GT Sport 170 TDI My Classifieds Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxford Local Time: 07:25 PM Posts: 342 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by fozzy2k (original) Yes ive noticed this on mine when doing 30 in 3rd and i put my foot down abit going up slight inclines im not sure if its the exhaust or something to do with the engine. will be nice if some one finds out what it is tho. 30 mph in 3rd gear sounds like a problem to me - you'd only be at about 2,200 rpm. Surely flooring the throttle at that speed is going to make it struggle, and even worse if you're going up a hill. I don't understand why you wouldn't be in 2nd gear at a more respectable 3,200 rpm ? Makes me wonder if these strange transmission sounds are just the engine labouring because too high a gear is selected for the road and engine speed ? Anyone got a recording of the sounds they can share ?

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