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xxx4xyz · Mar 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM

Hi, I got a MCS R56 and opted for the heated wing mirrors, at first they worked but for some strange reason they have stopped working all of a sudden. The only thing I have done is fold the mirrors back one day in a car park and I think it's since then they aint worked...... could it have pulled a wire off or something ? Any ideas? And both dont work its not just one..

tiger333888 · Mar 5th, 2007, 12:23 PM

are you saying the heating element is not working anymore or all the mirror features- the mirror adjustment, folding and heating?

as the heating element only kicks in when ambient temp falls below a certain temp....if you have frost on your car at night, you can see it working (the heating) and clear the frost quickly.

please clarify so we can comment further

xxx4xyz · Mar 5th, 2007, 12:40 PM

Hi. Just the heating part, they still adjust etc fine. When i picked it up my dealer told me they worked all the time, but if its just at low temps that would probably explain it.... (is it below 4degrees or something around that mark ?) I had alot of 'dew' on the mirrors the other morning when i set off to work and expected them to be nice and clear within 10 - 15 mins.... hence thinking oh they aint working!

tiger333888 · Mar 5th, 2007, 01:52 PM

Excellent news. The dealer is wrong on this. The heating element only works from around 3.c and below, and the system is very efficient. My car was iced up 3 weeks ago (remember all that snow!) and both mirrors were frosted. Within 1 min from starting the car, it had thawed.

I reckon on the morning with the dew, the temp was still above 3'c so the heating was not triggered.

It's easy to test. Keep an eye on the weather, and during a cold night spray your mirrors with some water. Return to your car later and hopefully the water may have frozen- then start your car and watch it thaw - check your OBC to see what the ambient temp is - 3 or below and the heaters should activate. On the other hand, during the same cold night, just feel the mirror with the back of your fingers and you should detect the warmth.

xxx4xyz · Mar 5th, 2007, 01:59 PM

Ok thanks for the info. Dealer being wrong - does such a thing exist ?

tiger333888 · Mar 5th, 2007, 02:07 PM

granted it is a new model so we can forgive them. I was teaching my dealer how to set the OBC the other day..tut tut..most sales person just see the 'ka ching' when customers are hovering around!!!.....they are under considerable commercial pressure so can't blame them totally

JohnWB · Mar 5th, 2007, 02:07 PM

So it's different to the R53 as they have the mirrors heating all the time, but only at a low level so you don't notice it

tiger333888 · Mar 5th, 2007, 02:13 PM

everything on the R56 has been optimisd to maximise fuel efficiency...so electrics only kick in when they have to..it all goes to helping it achieve impressive economy.

of interest, the new 1 series BMW has start stop tech - the engine cuts out when you stop in neutral and wakes up when you depress the clutch - all part of the effort to reduce emissions and max out the fuel efficiency. It even uses braking energy to recharge the battery, so the unit is fully charged will less petrol consumption.

xxx4xyz · Mar 5th, 2007, 07:18 PM

My dealer called me today (after i had posted on this thread) and advised me they should be on all the time ???? So he suggested I pop over with it for the spraks to look at..... should prove interesting!!

tiger333888 · Mar 5th, 2007, 07:45 PM

check the manual bud. I am 200% sure it states the heating only comes on below a certain temperature. Put my house on it!! It's def in the manual - refer to it and show the dealer chap/chapess - give them a red face..they should know their product better than that!

MiniMpi · Mar 5th, 2007, 11:06 PM

I have found this to be very disappointing,mirrors only heated at 3 or below,as stated above re dew on the mirrors early morning.

Lil_Mini · Mar 5th, 2007, 11:19 PM

So when ordering for the Heating side mirrors there isn't a button to turn it on or off? I wanted this feature to get rid of dew and rain since I get a lot of rain. So then I can't use this feature then?

popey · Mar 6th, 2007, 03:07 AM

Taken from the manual:

Lil_Mini · Mar 6th, 2007, 04:16 AM

Thank you Popey. I will try to cancel my cold weather package then.

Martin F · Mar 6th, 2007, 07:10 AM

According to this post they work in two stages. But the author never replied to my question asking how she knew so I am not sure whether it is true. But it seems credible

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-e...ml#post2816812

R60 Mike · Mar 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM

i thought you can over ride this when you press the heated back window and it turns the mirrors on too.

well it used to in my old corsa

Paul · Mar 6th, 2007, 10:46 AM

Not on the MINI it doesn't, they're independent of one another.

R60 Mike · Mar 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Not on the MINI it doesn't, they're independent of one another.

Thanks

ill stop pushing the back window heater now lol

MiniMpi · Mar 6th, 2007, 07:11 PM

Must say that when I switch on the heated rear window the mirrors do seem to clear more quickly..............so I am probably imagining it......

MiniMpi · Mar 6th, 2007, 07:56 PM

Just went out to check there.
8 degrees showing on OBC,switched on heated rear window switch and within a minute or less I had heated mirrors! and they got quite hot to touch.
Anyone know the exact degree that they come on themselves?

Mar 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM	#1
xxx4xyz MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stratford Upon Avon Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 57 Online	Heated Mirrors Hi, I got a MCS R56 and opted for the heated wing mirrors, at first they worked but for some strange reason they have stopped working all of a sudden. The only thing I have done is fold the mirrors back one day in a car park and I think it's since then they aint worked...... could it have pulled a wire off or something ? Any ideas? And both dont work its not just one..

Mar 5th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
JohnWB MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Middlesbrough, UK Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 324 Offline	So it's different to the R53 as they have the mirrors heating all the time, but only at a low level so you don't notice it Laser Blue / Black MCS - Arived March 07

Mar 5th, 2007, 11:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 561 Offline	I have found this to be very disappointing,mirrors only heated at 3 or below,as stated above re dew on the mirrors early morning. It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

Mar 6th, 2007, 03:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
popey Wants an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 1,428 Offline	Taken from the manual: Attached Thumbnails Now With Toyo Rubber!!

Mar 6th, 2007, 07:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 561 Offline	Must say that when I switch on the heated rear window the mirrors do seem to clear more quickly..............so I am probably imagining it...... It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

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Mar 5th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
tiger333888 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 280 Offline	are you saying the heating element is not working anymore or all the mirror features- the mirror adjustment, folding and heating? as the heating element only kicks in when ambient temp falls below a certain temp....if you have frost on your car at night, you can see it working (the heating) and clear the frost quickly. please clarify so we can comment further

Mar 5th, 2007, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
xxx4xyz MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stratford Upon Avon Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 57 Online	Hi. Just the heating part, they still adjust etc fine. When i picked it up my dealer told me they worked all the time, but if its just at low temps that would probably explain it.... (is it below 4degrees or something around that mark ?) I had alot of 'dew' on the mirrors the other morning when i set off to work and expected them to be nice and clear within 10 - 15 mins.... hence thinking oh they aint working!

Mar 5th, 2007, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
tiger333888 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 280 Offline	Excellent news. The dealer is wrong on this. The heating element only works from around 3.c and below, and the system is very efficient. My car was iced up 3 weeks ago (remember all that snow!) and both mirrors were frosted. Within 1 min from starting the car, it had thawed. I reckon on the morning with the dew, the temp was still above 3'c so the heating was not triggered. It's easy to test. Keep an eye on the weather, and during a cold night spray your mirrors with some water. Return to your car later and hopefully the water may have frozen- then start your car and watch it thaw - check your OBC to see what the ambient temp is - 3 or below and the heaters should activate. On the other hand, during the same cold night, just feel the mirror with the back of your fingers and you should detect the warmth.

Mar 5th, 2007, 01:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
xxx4xyz MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stratford Upon Avon Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 57 Online	Ok thanks for the info. Dealer being wrong - does such a thing exist ?

Mar 5th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
tiger333888 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 280 Offline	granted it is a new model so we can forgive them. I was teaching my dealer how to set the OBC the other day..tut tut..most sales person just see the 'ka ching' when customers are hovering around!!!.....they are under considerable commercial pressure so can't blame them totally

Mar 5th, 2007, 02:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
tiger333888 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 280 Offline	everything on the R56 has been optimisd to maximise fuel efficiency...so electrics only kick in when they have to..it all goes to helping it achieve impressive economy. of interest, the new 1 series BMW has start stop tech - the engine cuts out when you stop in neutral and wakes up when you depress the clutch - all part of the effort to reduce emissions and max out the fuel efficiency. It even uses braking energy to recharge the battery, so the unit is fully charged will less petrol consumption.

Mar 5th, 2007, 07:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
xxx4xyz MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Stratford Upon Avon Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 57 Online	My dealer called me today (after i had posted on this thread) and advised me they should be on all the time ???? So he suggested I pop over with it for the spraks to look at..... should prove interesting!!

Mar 5th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
tiger333888 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 280 Offline	check the manual bud. I am 200% sure it states the heating only comes on below a certain temperature. Put my house on it!! It's def in the manual - refer to it and show the dealer chap/chapess - give them a red face..they should know their product better than that!

Mar 5th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lil_Mini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Local Time: 11:04 AM Posts: 177 Offline	So when ordering for the Heating side mirrors there isn't a button to turn it on or off? I wanted this feature to get rid of dew and rain since I get a lot of rain. So then I can't use this feature then?

Mar 6th, 2007, 04:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lil_Mini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Local Time: 11:04 AM Posts: 177 Offline	Thank you Popey. I will try to cancel my cold weather package then.

Mar 6th, 2007, 07:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 621 Offline	According to this post they work in two stages. But the author never replied to my question asking how she knew so I am not sure whether it is true. But it seems credible http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-e...ml#post2816812

Mar 6th, 2007, 10:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
R60 Mike MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sidcup, kent Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 183 Offline	i thought you can over ride this when you press the heated back window and it turns the mirrors on too. well it used to in my old corsa

Mar 6th, 2007, 10:46 AM	#17 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Not on the MINI it doesn't, they're independent of one another.

Mar 6th, 2007, 10:52 AM	#18 (permalink)
R60 Mike MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sidcup, kent Local Time: 05:04 PM Posts: 183 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Not on the MINI it doesn't, they're independent of one another. Thanks ill stop pushing the back window heater now lol

Mar 6th, 2007, 07:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
MiniMpi MINI MAD in IRELAND <div><a href= Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cork,Ireland. Local Time: 04:04 PM Posts: 561 Offline	Just went out to check there. 8 degrees showing on OBC,switched on heated rear window switch and within a minute or less I had heated mirrors! and they got quite hot to touch. Anyone know the exact degree that they come on themselves? It's a MINI Clubman adventure!

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