[Wipeout]

Here my list after a fortnight and 1000 miles:

1)Upon releasing the clutch pedal, when block changing from fourth to second gear, there is a loud squeal/grinding noise.
2)Automatic Climate control requires excessive manual intervention to maintain a comfortable temperature.
3)Water trickling/gushing noise from front passenger side of car, even if the car has previously been driven in dry conditions. Water is collecting but not freely draining.
4)Automatic rain sensor wipers are too sensenitive, and need manual intervention.
5)Intermittently the car "kangaroos" in low gears. As I release the throttle after accelerating the engine slows in a irregular manner.
6)After a longer drive the engine also makes a diesel clacking noise.
7)Intermittent vibration noise from driver’s door, caused by lowering and closing the window.
8)Vibration noise from the passenger door.
9)Intermittent rattle coming from the chequered aluminium trim above the start/stop button.
10)A noise like a plastic ruler, vibrating on the end of the table when the car hits a speed bump. Sounds like loose trim somewhere.
11)The bonnet poorly fits and there is a large shut line gap on the drivers side.
12)The double exhaust is mounted unlevel. One pipe is higher than the other.

[CooperS4us]

Wow! Nice laundry list you got there. Hope your issues get sorted.

These cars are not up to quality standards (yet).

[JG.26]

Sounds like the standard R56 character traits, no doubt your friendly dealer will tell you they all do that Sir.

[daro911]

Quote: Originally Posted by JG.26 (original)

Sounds like the standard R56 character traits, no doubt your friendly dealer will tell you they all do that Sir.

Dealers (any brand) tend to pull a face and say "never heard of that before"well in my experience that has always seemed to be the case

[m1m0]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wipeout (original)

12)The double exhaust is mounted unlevel. One pipe is higher than the other.

That's interesting - I've seen several like that, my own included, although we're only talking a few millimetres. I thought it was normal to be honest... but perhaps not. Anyone know for sure?

[The Black Pearl]

anyone got a R56 that is as good as previous models. All I see on thsi site at the min is problems

[msh441]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Black Pearl (original)

anyone got a R56 that is as good as previous models. All I see on thsi site at the min is problems

You probably won't find many people posting glowing reviews in a forum titled "Faults and Fixes".

[daro911]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Black Pearl (original)

anyone got a R56 that is as good as previous models. All I see on thsi site at the min is problems

Very early days at the moment but seems to be better built than my original 2002 MCS.

So far so good now on Day 12 & 500 [S]miles under my belt

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-f...rfect-r56.html

[The Black Pearl]

You probably won't find many people posting glowing reviews in a forum titled "Faults and Fixes".

Yeah but it looks like th R56 is having way more problems..... The problems are all over the car and not in one specific area

[CC07ERS]

Welcome to the club mine was back after 6 days with the diesel noise , they didnt find anything wrong , that was a surprise .

[KenL]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Black Pearl (original)

anyone got a R56 that is as good as previous models. All I see on thsi site at the min is problems

Oh yes

My 2002 MINI ONE was absolutely rubbish. I think it was 12 visists to the dealer totaliing about 30 days in the 23 months I had it. When I traded it, it was still rubbish. Rattles from about every panel inside the car, a loud boom/bang whenever you hit even slight umperfections in the road (numerous failed attempts to fix this) and to top it off, the airbag light came on the day I traded it in

[wiggis]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Black Pearl (original)

anyone got a R56 that is as good as previous models. All I see on thsi site at the min is problems

Actually, I think there should be R56 Cooper S and R56 Cooper specifc "Faults & Fixes" forums, as it seems almost all of the serious faults reported (engine/transmission/dieseling noise related) seem common only to the Cooper S and not the Cooper.

Bit rough to tar the whole R56 group with the same brush IMHO. Perhaps it's just the R56 Cooper S which has a disproportionate number of problems compared to the old model.

[Mini Moo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wipeout (original)

10)A noise like a plastic ruler, vibrating on the end of the table when the car hits a speed bump. Sounds like loose trim somewhere.

I have that on mine and it's driving me nuts!! Did your dealer manage to fix it?

MM

[Wooly]

Quote: Originally Posted by cco7ers (original)

Welcome to the club mine was back after 6 days with the diesel noise , they didnt find anything wrong , that was a surprise .

What did you expect them to find, maybe that is how it sounds.

Quote:

6)After a longer drive the engine also makes a diesel clacking noise.

Is that not the metal contracting from all the heat?

Quote:

2)Automatic Climate control requires excessive manual intervention to maintain a comfortable temperature.

I don't know how you use it but my dad whacks his right up to the coldest then when it gets freezing he turns it down. Thats not how it works, maybe you are just selecting the wrong temperature and having to keep adjusting it?

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4)Automatic rain sensor wipers are too sensenitive, and need manual intervention.

Surely they are just doing their job, it rains it wipes. Its not going to think 'oh its one drop and its not raining any more i dont think i will bother'

Good luck with the other problems though.

[Wipeout]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wooly (original)

What did you expect them to find, maybe that is how it sounds.



Is that not the metal contracting from all the heat?



I don't know how you use it but my dad whacks his right up to the coldest then when it gets freezing he turns it down. Thats not how it works, maybe you are just selecting the wrong temperature and having to keep adjusting it?



Surely they are just doing their job, it rains it wipes. Its not going to think 'oh its one drop and its not raining any more i dont think i will bother'

Good luck with the other problems though.

Thanks, for that. You sound just like a Mini dealer. Let me put you right as to where the problem is. It isn't with the customer, it's the poor quality of the car. I've had many new cars, but this car has more issues than all the new car's I've had put together!

[Lil_Mini]

Quote: Originally Posted by Wipeout (original)

Thanks, for that. You sound just like a Mini dealer. Let me put you right as to where the problem is. It isn't with the customer, it's the poor quality of the car. I've had many new cars, but this car has more issues than all the new car's I've had put together!

I think that you are just not use to the car yet. Minis seem to be different from other cars, so it takes a little bit more time to get use to them. Good luck.

I think the previous person was just tryiing to help you out.

[sharpy14]

The Mini adventure is, I think, trying to convince myself that it is not the car that is at fault, but me as the driver.

I am now getting to grips with this strange "Mini" phenomenon and now know that the engine is fine, the fact it could not pull the skin off custard at low revs is simply to keep me alert in traffic, the wandering rev counter needle at idle is to amuse me at traffic lights, the rattle in the dash is Minis way of telling me the CD volume is too low, and the creaking clutch pedal is there to stimulate conversation about my favourite horror film.

And there was me thinking that this was due to poor build quality, and not Minis quirky take on things. I tell you, those other car makers could learn a thing or two from Mini. Spend less time on screwing the cars together properly, more time on things like having the petrol gauge dim at night.

When other Mini drivers flash their lights, I thought this was camaraderie, but it turns out the headlamps are probably faulty.

I thought I was just buying a car, and I've not even done 1000 miles.

[franky]

1-Hair loss 2- Hair growth from ears + nostrils 3- Big feet 4- Small dinky 5- Love marmite 6- Hate marmite 7- Short term memory loss 8- oh Forgot 9- Same as 8. 10- Drive a micra.

[Wipeout]

The Mini adventure really begins when you try to reject the car. The dealers think I should be flattered by there offer to drive another car while mine is off the road in the garage indefinitely. Just to think they've kindly stopped me from buying a car from another manfacture at half the price with probably half the faults from new. Rattling dashboards and trim, squealing clutches, are characteristics added to the car to benefit our ownership. Manually overriding the "automatic" air conditioning and wipers is just a way to distract us from the burden of driving.

Blessed are we who buy a Mini, and partake in the adventure. We should count these trials utter joys.