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Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 02:08 AM

I was disappointed that the indicator "ticking" noise has been changed. It's no longer "classic mini like", and is a more conventional, even hollow click, click, click noise.

I really liked that touch with the current MINI.

The toggles in both banks on the prototypes had no lights on the ends like the current model, another nice touch gone.

The DSC button (and sport mode etc) are in front of the gear lever now, in a small cluster of three buttons.

The roof liner has been changed a little and gives the impression of more room.

Rear seats are much more comfortable than the current rear seats.

Root Ginger · Jul 27th, 2006, 05:41 AM

Paul,

The MINI has had two click noises already BTW. The only reason I know this is because my 2003 S had a faulty speedo. This was replaced with the latest speedo and has a different click sound to the original.

It is a subtle difference though and sounds like the change you're talking about is a bit more major.

MINIAC · Jul 27th, 2006, 05:43 AM

The sideview mirror adjustment is on the speaker casing?

Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:21 AM

Yep. And it's one adjuster for both mirrors, on the drivers side. Seems a backward move to me, and also more expensive as they'll need LHD and RHD versions of each piece.

DeadCanDanceR · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:31 AM

It looks terrible there!

It's maybe a more logical place to put it, but then again, it is such a seldom used thing that it really doesn't need to be in such a visible place!

minirog · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:36 AM

Looks like the mirror adjustment is in a similar place to a Ford Focus - not a good move IMHO.

I know what you mean about the indicator noise Paul, for some reason I find it very nice getting in my Park Lane and hearing a very similar tick to the one in my classic MPI Cooper. The little things do matter and I agree that a tick that's like other 'modern' cars is a definite retrograde step - let's hope that's changed by the time it reaches production!

Rakey · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:40 AM

I prefer the mirror adjustment there, and if the wipers operate like the 1 series then its a move on which is good for me

But I would prefer the lights on the ends of toggles and on the control arms too like the current car

ONED · Jul 27th, 2006, 12:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

The toggles in both banks on the prototypes had no lights on the ends like the current model, another nice touch gone.

.

TBH I never thought they were that good!

....I could never see if something was on or off!
I liked the fact that the lights were there,.....but never found them effective

ScottieCoop · Jul 27th, 2006, 12:19 PM

It would be good however if they have introduced the "overtake" mode of the indicator you know just touch the stalk and it will flash three times and then canel it self. really like that on my other cars.

Zipperblues · Jul 27th, 2006, 12:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Yep. And it's one adjuster for both mirrors, on the drivers side. Seems a backward move to me, and also more expensive as they'll need LHD and RHD versions of each piece.

This is probably MINI responding to criticisms that the controls are "not intuitive." Personally, I liked how the MINI was different and I've gotten used to the new locations, and find them excellent. They may not be good for a person who jumps in a MINI for ten seconds, but for someone who spends a lot of time in the car, they are no problem.

Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 12:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottieCoop

It would be good however if they have introduced the "overtake" mode of the indicator you know just touch the stalk and it will flash three times and then canel it self. really like that on my other cars.

They have.

ONED · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

They have.

Thought they would they've gone that way with the rest of their cars!

Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM

Either that or the stalk was just being overly temperamental! It certainly seemed to do that anyway. Don't hold me on that one!

ScottieCoop · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Either that or the stalk was just being overly temperamental! It certainly seemed to do that anyway. Don't hold me on that one!

go back and check

oh and take me with you.

Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 01:37 PM

I might have it on some of the video I shot. I'll take a look.

Olly. · Jul 27th, 2006, 03:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

The DSC button (and sport mode etc) are in front of the gear lever now, in a small cluster of three buttons.

Just out of interest what is the third button? I hate having blank buttons, so obviously I will have to spec it

Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 03:47 PM

Oil slick.

(I don't know).

Olly. · Jul 27th, 2006, 03:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

Oil slick.

(I don't know).

007 button

snid · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:40 PM

Isn't the indicator click sound all done in software and speakers (not old-fashioned mechanical relay clicking)? I do know that the current MINI's inidicator sound was changed to be louder during a software update. It could easily be changed again...

Root Ginger · Jul 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM

There is a sounder in the central speedo currently that performs the click and bong sounds. However the sound appears to be built into the speedo otherwise it wouldn't have changed when mine was replaced. Admittedly though the volume could be controlled outside of the speedo by the BCU.

Jul 27th, 2006, 02:08 AM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	May seem silly but... I was disappointed that the indicator "ticking" noise has been changed. It's no longer "classic mini like", and is a more conventional, even hollow click, click, click noise. I really liked that touch with the current MINI. The toggles in both banks on the prototypes had no lights on the ends like the current model, another nice touch gone. The DSC button (and sport mode etc) are in front of the gear lever now, in a small cluster of three buttons. The roof liner has been changed a little and gives the impression of more room. Rear seats are much more comfortable than the current rear seats.

Jul 27th, 2006, 05:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	Paul, The MINI has had two click noises already BTW. The only reason I know this is because my 2003 S had a faulty speedo. This was replaced with the latest speedo and has a different click sound to the original. It is a subtle difference though and sounds like the change you're talking about is a bit more major. It was acceptable in the 80's

Jul 27th, 2006, 09:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
minirog Hello :) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bristol Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 284 Offline	Looks like the mirror adjustment is in a similar place to a Ford Focus - not a good move IMHO. I know what you mean about the indicator noise Paul, for some reason I find it very nice getting in my Park Lane and hearing a very similar tick to the one in my classic MPI Cooper. The little things do matter and I agree that a tick that's like other 'modern' cars is a definite retrograde step - let's hope that's changed by the time it reaches production! Last edited by minirog : Jul 27th, 2006 at 03:45 PM.

Jul 27th, 2006, 09:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rakey I am not a number!! My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Village Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 50,334 Offline	I prefer the mirror adjustment there, and if the wipers operate like the 1 series then its a move on which is good for me But I would prefer the lights on the ends of toggles and on the control arms too like the current car Its only a forum you know!

Jul 27th, 2006, 12:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
ScottieCoop Shopping Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 773 Offline	It would be good however if they have introduced the "overtake" mode of the indicator you know just touch the stalk and it will flash three times and then canel it self. really like that on my other cars. Cooper D (2007)

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Jul 27th, 2006, 05:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 09:27 AM Posts: 8,318 Online	The sideview mirror adjustment is on the speaker casing?

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Yep. And it's one adjuster for both mirrors, on the drivers side. Seems a backward move to me, and also more expensive as they'll need LHD and RHD versions of each piece.

Jul 27th, 2006, 09:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
DeadCanDanceR ...viva MINI...!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Guadalajara, México Local Time: 11:27 AM Posts: 18,874 Offline	It looks terrible there! It's maybe a more logical place to put it, but then again, it is such a seldom used thing that it really doesn't need to be in such a visible place!

Jul 27th, 2006, 12:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
ONED SUCKIN DIESEL!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ballydung Manor ! Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 7,354 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett The toggles in both banks on the prototypes had no lights on the ends like the current model, another nice touch gone. . TBH I never thought they were that good! ....I could never see if something was on or off! I liked the fact that the lights were there,.....but never found them effective

Jul 27th, 2006, 12:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Zipperblues MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Massachusetts Local Time: 12:27 PM Posts: 223 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Yep. And it's one adjuster for both mirrors, on the drivers side. Seems a backward move to me, and also more expensive as they'll need LHD and RHD versions of each piece. This is probably MINI responding to criticisms that the controls are "not intuitive." Personally, I liked how the MINI was different and I've gotten used to the new locations, and find them excellent. They may not be good for a person who jumps in a MINI for ten seconds, but for someone who spends a lot of time in the car, they are no problem.

Jul 27th, 2006, 12:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ScottieCoop It would be good however if they have introduced the "overtake" mode of the indicator you know just touch the stalk and it will flash three times and then canel it self. really like that on my other cars. They have.

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
ONED SUCKIN DIESEL!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ballydung Manor ! Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 7,354 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett They have. Thought they would they've gone that way with the rest of their cars!

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Either that or the stalk was just being overly temperamental! It certainly seemed to do that anyway. Don't hold me on that one!

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
ScottieCoop Shopping Join Date: Apr 2004 Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 773 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Either that or the stalk was just being overly temperamental! It certainly seemed to do that anyway. Don't hold me on that one! go back and check oh and take me with you. Cooper D (2007)

Jul 27th, 2006, 01:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	I might have it on some of the video I shot. I'll take a look.

Jul 27th, 2006, 03:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett The DSC button (and sport mode etc) are in front of the gear lever now, in a small cluster of three buttons. Just out of interest what is the third button? I hate having blank buttons, so obviously I will have to spec it

Jul 27th, 2006, 03:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Oil slick. (I don't know).

Jul 27th, 2006, 03:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett Oil slick. (I don't know). 007 button

Jul 27th, 2006, 09:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
snid brown is back Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Burlington, VT Local Time: 12:27 PM Posts: 4,216 Offline	Isn't the indicator click sound all done in software and speakers (not old-fashioned mechanical relay clicking)? I do know that the current MINI's inidicator sound was changed to be louder during a software update. It could easily be changed again... jtross \| snid \| jason - bloggage (including videos)

Jul 27th, 2006, 10:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 05:27 PM Posts: 4,673 Offline	There is a sounder in the central speedo currently that performs the click and bong sounds. However the sound appears to be built into the speedo otherwise it wouldn't have changed when mine was replaced. Admittedly though the volume could be controlled outside of the speedo by the BCU. It was acceptable in the 80's

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