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Chris.F · Nov 8th, 2006, 11:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by m1m0 (original)

Thinking about this a bit more, doesn't the new radio/cd provide an aux input for ipods and the like? That must add to the case for a working 12v socket....

(decided I'd carry on speculating regardless)

Don't think the aux input is on the front of the headset? [IT ISN'T IS IT its under the centre controls ...thanks to m1m0 and Hat]

The i-pod link goes in the back of the radio and into the glovebox. (But I speculate!)

m1m0 · Nov 8th, 2006, 11:54 AM

No harm in speculating

I knew I'd seen a pic of it somewhere, and I've managed to track it down to a recent post by Hat. Here's his pic (hope he doesn't mind me reusing it):

The aux input can be seen under the centre stack toggles.

It still doesn't really help us determine whether the 12v socket will work or not, but it seems the aux port is ideally situated in terms of playing from an ipod whilst charging it at the same time...

Chris.F · Nov 8th, 2006, 11:59 AM

Well spotted! BUT does this allow for the same functions as the I-pod link? (sorry if this is a daft question or posted elsewhere....AT least you find out on Mini2)

BUT IT DEFO works with the smokers pack on the Spec.....I hope!

thrud · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:20 AM

I raised the question re: 12V power with my dealer, as I have not speccd the Smokers Pack. He says that there will be 12V power to the front, just no cigar lighter.

Paul

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Simon Syddall (original)

...they are very helpful and knowledgeable (unlike MINI dealers)

That's a bit of a sweeping generalisation Simon!

I would be more than happy to put your obviously extensive knowledge of the MINI to test against mine!

m1m0 · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

That's a bit of a sweeping generalisation Simon!

I would be more than happy to put your obviously extensive knowledge of the MINI to test against mine!

Ok, the challenge has been set. Here's the first question for both of you:

If I don't spec the smoker pack on my R56 MINI, will I still get a working 12v socket in place of the cigarette lighter?

Sniper · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:39 AM

Have you experienced all 156 dealers then Simon? If your dealer isnt good why not try another, you might be suprised!

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by m1m0 (original)

Ok, the challenge has been set. Here's the first question for both of you:

If I don't spec the smoker pack on my R56 MINI, will I still get a working 12v socket in place of the cigarette lighter?

All MINI's come with a 12v socket between the front cupholders as standard.

If the Smokers Pack is specified a lighter insert and ashtray are included.

(But hey, I'm just one of those unhelpful and unknowledgeable dealers that Mr Syddall mentioned, so what do I know?)

Chris.F · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:54 AM

Not being awkward Scrogg.....BUT is this socket live? No one doubts its exists but I'm being told its blanked off without the smokers pack? (Like the mystery button present but inactive?) Sounds daft if true because the option should be "Lighter & Ashtray" IF 12v is present on all cars, which it should be.

Spamini · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original)

Run flats on all the R56s as standard aren't they?

The salesman defo said the socket wasn't live unless the smokers pack was on. Although he also said there wasn't a problem with delivery re storage? He's gone now!!!!!

According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket!

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original)

According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket!

Very true.

MINI Mobility System has always included a 12v socket in the boot, so there is no reason to believe things will be any different this time around.

We've just got to wait until someone sees a new model with 15" wheels fitted!

Chris.F · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

Very true.

MINI Mobility System has always included a 12v socket in the boot, so there is no reason to believe things will be any different this time around.

We've just got to wait until someone sees a new model with 15" wheels fitted!

This is quite funny in the real World. Why does the storage pack add a 12v socket in the boot then if one is in there to start with?

Or has my dealer got it wrong again?

Martin F · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:11 AM

My dealer has received his first two MCSs ( which are hidden away ) but I asked him if either of them did NOT have the Smoker Pack so that he could take a look and answer this question definitively. Unfortunately both have the Smoker Pack.

Do you have any cars without the Smoker Pack yet, Scrogg?

Chris.F · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:16 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original)

According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket!

Wish I had a brochure! (£17,000+ and still not got one

)

.....said ALL on run flats or does he expect everyone to upgrade from standard?

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original)

This is quite funny in the real World. Why does the storage pack add a 12v socket in the boot then if one is in there to start with?

Or has my dealer got it wrong again?

Being the first to admit that I don't know everything (

!) about MINI I would be guessing that, as the 12v socket was deleted when 16" or bigger alloys were specified, it was easier to add this as part of the Storage Compartment Pack so that you will get it regardless of what size wheels are specified.

Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket?

Chris.F · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:24 AM

lol.....Not convinced BUT still a good effort

. Surely someone has a car they can look in and say for sure. Pics with subtitles would be better!!!!!

Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket?
PERHAPS you get a free foot pump?

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original)

Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket?
PERHAPS you get a free foot pump?

In the boot, obviously!

The point I was making was, perhaps this time around, the extra socket in the boot is not part of the MINI Mobility System, and that the one in the front is used to power the compressor?

If you're going to start taking the mickey I won't tell you what the MINI Product Enquiries team have just told me about this!!

Martin F · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

.................
If you're going to start taking the mickey I won't tell you what the MINI Product Enquiries team have just told me about this!!

Scrogg, please tell, we'll all be on our best behaviour

Chris.F · Nov 9th, 2006, 10:42 AM

I promise....please tell......good behaviour......pleeeeaaassssse! ;-)

They could market the footpump as a keep fit bonus......perhaps?

Olly. · Nov 9th, 2006, 11:55 AM

Just heard back from MINI UK

Quote: Originally Posted by MINI UK

We can confirm that the 12v plug is only available in the front of the MINI Cooper S if the Smoker s Pack is ordered as a not cost option

Nov 8th, 2006, 11:13 AM	#21
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by m1m0 (original) Thinking about this a bit more, doesn't the new radio/cd provide an aux input for ipods and the like? That must add to the case for a working 12v socket.... (decided I'd carry on speculating regardless) Don't think the aux input is on the front of the headset? [IT ISN'T IS IT its under the centre controls ...thanks to m1m0 and Hat] The i-pod link goes in the back of the radio and into the glovebox. (But I speculate!) Last edited by Chris.F : Nov 8th, 2006 at 12:02 PM. Reason: More info means better speculation

Nov 8th, 2006, 11:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Well spotted! BUT does this allow for the same functions as the I-pod link? (sorry if this is a daft question or posted elsewhere....AT least you find out on Mini2) BUT IT DEFO works with the smokers pack on the Spec.....I hope! Last edited by Chris.F : Nov 24th, 2006 at 12:31 PM.

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#25 (permalink)
Scrogg Extra 3 Inches Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 16,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Simon Syddall (original) ...they are very helpful and knowledgeable (unlike MINI dealers) That's a bit of a sweeping generalisation Simon! I would be more than happy to put your obviously extensive knowledge of the MINI to test against mine! 30

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:40 AM	#28 (permalink)
Scrogg Extra 3 Inches Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 16,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by m1m0 (original) Ok, the challenge has been set. Here's the first question for both of you: If I don't spec the smoker pack on my R56 MINI, will I still get a working 12v socket in place of the cigarette lighter? All MINI's come with a 12v socket between the front cupholders as standard. If the Smokers Pack is specified a lighter insert and ashtray are included. (But hey, I'm just one of those unhelpful and unknowledgeable dealers that Mr Syddall mentioned, so what do I know?) 30

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:02 AM	#31 (permalink)
Scrogg Extra 3 Inches Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 16,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original) According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket! Very true. MINI Mobility System has always included a 12v socket in the boot, so there is no reason to believe things will be any different this time around. We've just got to wait until someone sees a new model with 15" wheels fitted! 30

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Nov 8th, 2006, 11:54 AM	#22 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 211 Offline	No harm in speculating I knew I'd seen a pic of it somewhere, and I've managed to track it down to a recent post by Hat. Here's his pic (hope he doesn't mind me reusing it): The aux input can be seen under the centre stack toggles. It still doesn't really help us determine whether the 12v socket will work or not, but it seems the aux port is ideally situated in terms of playing from an ipod whilst charging it at the same time...

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:20 AM	#24 (permalink)
thrud MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 125 Offline	I raised the question re: 12V power with my dealer, as I have not speccd the Smokers Pack. He says that there will be 12V power to the front, just no cigar lighter. Paul

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:37 AM	#26 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 211 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) That's a bit of a sweeping generalisation Simon! I would be more than happy to put your obviously extensive knowledge of the MINI to test against mine! Ok, the challenge has been set. Here's the first question for both of you: If I don't spec the smoker pack on my R56 MINI, will I still get a working 12v socket in place of the cigarette lighter?

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:39 AM	#27 (permalink)
Sniper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: uk Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 9 Offline	Have you experienced all 156 dealers then Simon? If your dealer isnt good why not try another, you might be suprised!

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:54 AM	#29 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Not being awkward Scrogg.....BUT is this socket live? No one doubts its exists but I'm being told its blanked off without the smokers pack? (Like the mystery button present but inactive?) Sounds daft if true because the option should be "Lighter & Ashtray" IF 12v is present on all cars, which it should be.

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:00 AM	#30 (permalink)
Spamini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Spalding Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 166 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original) Run flats on all the R56s as standard aren't they? The salesman defo said the socket wasn't live unless the smokers pack was on. Although he also said there wasn't a problem with delivery re storage? He's gone now!!!!! According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket!

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:10 AM	#32 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) Very true. MINI Mobility System has always included a 12v socket in the boot, so there is no reason to believe things will be any different this time around. We've just got to wait until someone sees a new model with 15" wheels fitted! This is quite funny in the real World. Why does the storage pack add a 12v socket in the boot then if one is in there to start with? Or has my dealer got it wrong again?

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:11 AM	#33 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 642 Offline	My dealer has received his first two MCSs ( which are hidden away ) but I asked him if either of them did NOT have the Smoker Pack so that he could take a look and answer this question definitively. Unfortunately both have the Smoker Pack. Do you have any cars without the Smoker Pack yet, Scrogg?

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:16 AM	#34 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original) According to the new brochure which I received yesterday, 15 inch wheels are not run flat. So a tyre inflator would be required. Which of course would be of no use if there is no 12v socket! Wish I had a brochure! (£17,000+ and still not got one) .....said ALL on run flats or does he expect everyone to upgrade from standard? Last edited by Chris.F : Nov 24th, 2006 at 12:27 PM.

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:19 AM	#35 (permalink)
Scrogg Extra 3 Inches Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 16,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original) This is quite funny in the real World. Why does the storage pack add a 12v socket in the boot then if one is in there to start with? Or has my dealer got it wrong again? Being the first to admit that I don't know everything ( !) about MINI I would be guessing that, as the 12v socket was deleted when 16" or bigger alloys were specified, it was easier to add this as part of the Storage Compartment Pack so that you will get it regardless of what size wheels are specified. Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket? 30

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:24 AM	#36 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	A brave attempt - Scrogg lol.....Not convinced BUT still a good effort . Surely someone has a car they can look in and say for sure. Pics with subtitles would be better!!!!! Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket? PERHAPS you get a free foot pump?

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:30 AM	#37 (permalink)
Scrogg Extra 3 Inches Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 16,060 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Chris.F (original) Maybe this time around having the MINI Mobility System does not have the socket? PERHAPS you get a free foot pump? In the boot, obviously! The point I was making was, perhaps this time around, the extra socket in the boot is not part of the MINI Mobility System, and that the one in the front is used to power the compressor? If you're going to start taking the mickey I won't tell you what the MINI Product Enquiries team have just told me about this!! 30

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:37 AM	#38 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 642 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) ................. If you're going to start taking the mickey I won't tell you what the MINI Product Enquiries team have just told me about this!! Scrogg, please tell, we'll all be on our best behaviour

Nov 9th, 2006, 10:42 AM	#39 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 02:20 AM Posts: 326 Offline	I promise....please tell......good behaviour......pleeeeaaassssse! ;-) They could market the footpump as a keep fit bonus......perhaps?

Nov 9th, 2006, 11:55 AM	#40 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 03:20 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Just heard back from MINI UK Quote: Originally Posted by MINI UK We can confirm that the 12v plug is only available in the front of the MINI Cooper S if the Smoker s Pack is ordered as a not cost option

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