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Near Oxford Mini · Nov 5th, 2006, 09:33 AM

Very silly question

If you do NOT specify the 441 Smokers Pack do you still get a 12V connector in the cabin anywhere?

Could be a bit important if you need to charge something up especially as the 12V in the boot went along with the cancelled 493 Storage Pack!

Need to know ASAP as we might need to add 441 to our spec. Can we still change 4 weeks before it's built?

The big R56 brochure we got our hand on yesterday seems to imply you don't get one.

Thanks

Chris.F · Nov 5th, 2006, 09:51 AM

99% sure you have to specify smokers to get the supply swtched on thats why I speced it as a no cost option. (You will get a mini storage pack - called an ashtray too!)

Was thinking I might need the supply for speed detector, phone etc in the future.

If they can't change it SHOUT !

Olly. · Nov 5th, 2006, 10:14 AM

You still get a 12V as standard apparently.

This thread might be useful - http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-i...hlight=smokers

Martin F · Nov 5th, 2006, 10:35 AM

Just checked with my dealer as my R56 is being built next week and he confirmed that the 12v socket is standard if no Smokers Pack is specified, at least according to his detailed spec info.

Chris.F · Nov 5th, 2006, 10:37 AM

The salesman had told me it was a dead socket if not specified ....but as he's has left the company so soon I bow to Ollys knowledge. Worth double checking?

Root Ginger · Nov 5th, 2006, 11:16 AM

On the current car the 12v is active but you get a rather unattrative plastic bung to cover the hole (if you get anything at all). It's better to spec the smokers package to get the more attractive cigarette lighter to fit in the hole while it's not being used.

Simon Syddall · Nov 5th, 2006, 11:23 AM

Or wait and see if it's live and if not get one of NewMINIStuff's excellent looms (simply unplug radio/CD, plug their loom in between and off you go).

Not sure if they do one for the rather odd radio/CD in the R56, though.................

Worth a call, they are very helpful and knowledgeable (unlike MINI dealers) - 0870 360 9599.

Spamini · Nov 5th, 2006, 11:37 AM

How would you inflate your tyres with the mini mobility kit without one? I would have thought it would have to be live so this can be used. Standard cooper wheels are not run flat.

Chris.F · Nov 5th, 2006, 12:20 PM

Run flats on all the R56s as standard aren't they?

The salesman defo said the socket wasn't live unless the smokers pack was on. Although he also said there wasn't a problem with delivery re storage? He's gone now!!!!!

Near Oxford Mini · Nov 7th, 2006, 11:06 PM

An Update.............................

Queried this with our dealer and had to have the smokers pack added to get the 12V connection in the cabin.

Build still on target for week 49.

matt.morrow · Nov 7th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Doubt you need it - i think it is just the cigarette lighter than pops in the hole and the ashtray that u miss out on - if mie doesn't have it I'll make them steal these things out of a demo and they can worry about reordering them as parts!

Chris.F · Nov 8th, 2006, 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Near Oxford Mini (original)

An Update.............................

Queried this with our dealer and had to have the smokers pack added to get the 12V connection in the cabin.

Build still on target for week 49.

Exactly the same with me. Definitely stated by dealers that although the blank is in place on all cars. The socket will not be active unless smokers pack specified in line with a lot of other manufacturers. Can't be rocket science to connect to the loom but I don't want to be dismantling a new car for no good reason.

Olly. · Nov 8th, 2006, 09:41 AM

Think i'll add the Smokers Pack to my car then, don't want to risk not being able to plug a Sat Nav in

Spamini · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:08 AM

Too late for me to do anything about mine, car is being delivered in the next few days. I shall be really mad if the socket is not active. The socket is not just used by smokers, it's a vital part needed for phones and sat nav.

matt.morrow · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:27 AM

I still bet it will work if smokers pack not specified - if I was the dealer I would always specify it, order blanks and then take the lighter and ashtray out of cars that owners didn't want smokers pack on - then you would keep everyone happy and start a collection of spare parts - after all it is free anyway!

m1m0 · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:33 AM

What the hell? I'll be mad too, quite right! This is absurd... who's bright idea was it to decide that non-smokers wouldn't want access to a 12v socket??

Suuuurely it must be a live socket?

Olly. · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:36 AM

I've just sent an email off to MINI UK. Hopefully they can clear this up for us

m1m0 · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Olly. (original)

I've just sent an email off to MINI UK. Hopefully they can clear this up for us

Nice one Olly! Was going to do it myself, otherwise we'll be speculating all day... let's hope for the best!

Chris.F · Nov 8th, 2006, 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original)

Too late for me to do anything about mine, car is being delivered in the next few days. I shall be really mad if the socket is not active. The socket is not just used by smokers, it's a vital part needed for phones and sat nav.

Sincerely hope I'm wrong on this but that is exactly how I came to spec the smokers pack JUST for the 12v socket re Speed Detectors, Sat Nav etc. It's certainly not clear and depends on who you have spoken to at the dealerships. I was asked do you want a 12v supply in the front, then you must spec the smokers pack or the socket will be inactive.

m1m0 · Nov 8th, 2006, 11:06 AM

Thinking about this a bit more, doesn't the new radio/cd provide an aux input for ipods and the like? That must add to the case for a working 12v socket....

(decided I'd carry on speculating regardless)

Nov 5th, 2006, 09:33 AM	#1
Near Oxford Mini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 86 Offline	12V In Cabin Without Smokers Pack? Advice Required Very silly question If you do NOT specify the 441 Smokers Pack do you still get a 12V connector in the cabin anywhere? Could be a bit important if you need to charge something up especially as the 12V in the boot went along with the cancelled 493 Storage Pack! Need to know ASAP as we might need to add 441 to our spec. Can we still change 4 weeks before it's built? The big R56 brochure we got our hand on yesterday seems to imply you don't get one. Thanks

Nov 5th, 2006, 11:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
Root Ginger Amiga 500 to PS3 20 Years Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Slough, Berkshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 4,673 Offline	On the current car the 12v is active but you get a rather unattrative plastic bung to cover the hole (if you get anything at all). It's better to spec the smokers package to get the more attractive cigarette lighter to fit in the hole while it's not being used. It was acceptable in the 80's

Nov 5th, 2006, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Simon Syddall Syd My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lincolnshire Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 118 Offline	Or wait and see if it's live and if not get one of NewMINIStuff's excellent looms (simply unplug radio/CD, plug their loom in between and off you go). Not sure if they do one for the rather odd radio/CD in the R56, though................. Worth a call, they are very helpful and knowledgeable (unlike MINI dealers) - 0870 360 9599. UNLESS YOU LIVE LIFE ON THE EDGE, YOU ARE TAKING UP TOO MUCH SPACE

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Nov 5th, 2006, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 326 Offline	99% sure you have to specify smokers to get the supply swtched on thats why I speced it as a no cost option. (You will get a mini storage pack - called an ashtray too!) Was thinking I might need the supply for speed detector, phone etc in the future. If they can't change it SHOUT !

Nov 5th, 2006, 10:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	You still get a 12V as standard apparently. This thread might be useful - http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-i...hlight=smokers

Nov 5th, 2006, 10:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 621 Offline	Just checked with my dealer as my R56 is being built next week and he confirmed that the 12v socket is standard if no Smokers Pack is specified, at least according to his detailed spec info.

Nov 5th, 2006, 10:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 326 Offline	The salesman had told me it was a dead socket if not specified ....but as he's has left the company so soon I bow to Ollys knowledge. Worth double checking?

Nov 5th, 2006, 11:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Spamini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Spalding Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 166 Offline	How would you inflate your tyres with the mini mobility kit without one? I would have thought it would have to be live so this can be used. Standard cooper wheels are not run flat.

Nov 5th, 2006, 12:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Run flats on all the R56s as standard aren't they? The salesman defo said the socket wasn't live unless the smokers pack was on. Although he also said there wasn't a problem with delivery re storage? He's gone now!!!!!

Nov 7th, 2006, 11:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Near Oxford Mini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 86 Offline	An Update............................. Queried this with our dealer and had to have the smokers pack added to get the 12V connection in the cabin. Build still on target for week 49.

Nov 7th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
matt.morrow MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bangor, N.I. Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 388 Offline	Doubt you need it - i think it is just the cigarette lighter than pops in the hole and the ashtray that u miss out on - if mie doesn't have it I'll make them steal these things out of a demo and they can worry about reordering them as parts!

Nov 8th, 2006, 09:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Near Oxford Mini (original) An Update............................. Queried this with our dealer and had to have the smokers pack added to get the 12V connection in the cabin. Build still on target for week 49. Exactly the same with me. Definitely stated by dealers that although the blank is in place on all cars. The socket will not be active unless smokers pack specified in line with a lot of other manufacturers. Can't be rocket science to connect to the loom but I don't want to be dismantling a new car for no good reason.

Nov 8th, 2006, 09:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Think i'll add the Smokers Pack to my car then, don't want to risk not being able to plug a Sat Nav in

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
Spamini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Spalding Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 166 Offline	Too late for me to do anything about mine, car is being delivered in the next few days. I shall be really mad if the socket is not active. The socket is not just used by smokers, it's a vital part needed for phones and sat nav.

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
matt.morrow MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bangor, N.I. Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 388 Offline	I still bet it will work if smokers pack not specified - if I was the dealer I would always specify it, order blanks and then take the lighter and ashtray out of cars that owners didn't want smokers pack on - then you would keep everyone happy and start a collection of spare parts - after all it is free anyway!

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:33 AM	#16 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 211 Offline	What the hell? I'll be mad too, quite right! This is absurd... who's bright idea was it to decide that non-smokers wouldn't want access to a 12v socket?? Suuuurely it must be a live socket?

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#17 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	I've just sent an email off to MINI UK. Hopefully they can clear this up for us

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 211 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Olly. (original) I've just sent an email off to MINI UK. Hopefully they can clear this up for us Nice one Olly! Was going to do it myself, otherwise we'll be speculating all day... let's hope for the best!

Nov 8th, 2006, 10:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Chris.F MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennines Local Time: 05:22 AM Posts: 326 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Spamini (original) Too late for me to do anything about mine, car is being delivered in the next few days. I shall be really mad if the socket is not active. The socket is not just used by smokers, it's a vital part needed for phones and sat nav. Sincerely hope I'm wrong on this but that is exactly how I came to spec the smokers pack JUST for the 12v socket re Speed Detectors, Sat Nav etc. It's certainly not clear and depends on who you have spoken to at the dealerships. I was asked do you want a 12v supply in the front, then you must spec the smokers pack or the socket will be inactive.

Nov 8th, 2006, 11:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 06:22 AM Posts: 211 Offline	Thinking about this a bit more, doesn't the new radio/cd provide an aux input for ipods and the like? That must add to the case for a working 12v socket.... (decided I'd carry on speculating regardless)

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