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Laineee · Apr 1st, 2008, 09:12 PM

Have just been trawling some previous discussions on iPod / USB, but was hoping someone could clarify the situation for me.

I have just picked up my new Cooper with full bluetooth / USB option. I've been trying to connect my Windows formatted 80G iPod Classic using a standard USB cable, but can't even get the device to be recognised. From reading previous responses, I get the impression that I should be able to get some sort of basic function from standard USB, but would need the special Mini cable to get full use - have I understood this correctly? If I have, what are the chances of the Mini cable solving my problem if I can't even get the device to be recognised via USB at the moment?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Laineee

Yoastie · Apr 2nd, 2008, 02:32 PM

I understand that it works the way you are trying for all players apart from iPod. For iPod you are looking at the £40 (ish) BMW cable to get it connected.

I could be wrong, though...

andrewcregan · Apr 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM

£40

forget it! Got a cheap cable off ebay, and all functions work fine

.

mikeythemini · Apr 2nd, 2008, 11:10 PM

I've got a new USB/aux ipod lead. Anyone prepared to test it & report back - they get to keep the lead for free

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p.s. You must have a R56 with the USB connector option, now.

brett · Apr 3rd, 2008, 12:19 AM

craps, I just bought one. My usual USB cable wouldn't reconise songs, and wouldn;t work, but the BMW one did. Weird

Laineee · Apr 3rd, 2008, 07:44 AM

Thanks for the responses - I've just ordered in the BMW cable from the dealership, otherwise I'd definitely take up your offer Mikey!

Laineee

andrewcregan · Apr 3rd, 2008, 03:48 PM

Got Mike's newministuff cable on its way to me. I shall test and report back on here

andrewcregan · Apr 4th, 2008, 08:19 PM

Cable recieved thanks Mike

. Got 2 x 60 mile trips to make over the weekend, so will give the cable a good try

airbusA346 · Apr 4th, 2008, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original)

Cable recieved thanks Mike

. Got 2 x 60 mile trips to make over the weekend, so will give the cable a good try

That was quick!!!!

M111 CGC · Apr 4th, 2008, 09:10 PM

The BMW ipod cable interfaces the Ipod to use it to play the music, which is then sent via an analogue (i.e. line out) signal into the Mini's auxiliary jack next to the USB port. This is not the same as connecting a USB memory stick (or hard drive?) to the USB port, as this will access the data files and use the Mini's head unit to decode the audio files (like using an MP3 CD in a Mini CD player).

This is why you need a special lead for using an Ipod in the Mini with USB. Even if the Mini could access the hard drive on the Ipod it would not be able to decode the files due to Apple's file format (or DRM?) on the MP3 tracks. It would be interesting to see if there is a cheaper alternative to the BMW lead though......

andrewcregan · Apr 4th, 2008, 10:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M111 CGC (original)

It would be interesting to see if there is a cheaper alternative to the BMW lead though......

Read my post #3 above.

Also about to test Mike's (newministuff) cable, which I would anticipate would be a lot cheaper than the BMW one

andrewcregan · Apr 4th, 2008, 10:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by airbusA346 (original)

That was quick!!!!

Living proof that 1st class recorded can work

airbusA346 · Apr 5th, 2008, 08:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original)

Living proof that 1st class recorded can work

It is isn't it, when I normally pay for something to be sent by 1st class recordered it takes 3 days and the postman never gets me to sign anything.

andrewcregan · Apr 5th, 2008, 07:19 PM

Unfortunately Mike's new cable does not work

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My cable and ipod were working before removal to try the new cable.
The new cable never allows the ipod to be recognised - the USB symbol never appears.
I then plugged my original (not BMW) cable back in, and all the functions were fully available.
This was repeated 3 times to ensure my findings were correct.
Each time my ebay cable worked fine, yet Mike's cable never allowed the ipod to be recognised.
Mike's cable physically looks far superior to my cheap cable. However, mine works fine

.
All the best Mike in your continued pursuit in trying to find a cable for your customers, and MINI2ers

.

Andrew

mikeythemini · Apr 5th, 2008, 07:25 PM

Thanks for trying it, fling it in the bin or pop it on ebay

The search continues

Tom-Bee · Nov 19th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Andrew what ipod cable did you get off ebay? The ones I can see that aren't the original BMW ones don't charge the ipod via the USB port, they only have a mini jack connection on them.. Cheers.

Edit: I found a ipod y cable from Ford will it work?

Apr 1st, 2008, 09:12 PM	#1
Laineee MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Another iPod / USB question Have just been trawling some previous discussions on iPod / USB, but was hoping someone could clarify the situation for me. I have just picked up my new Cooper with full bluetooth / USB option. I've been trying to connect my Windows formatted 80G iPod Classic using a standard USB cable, but can't even get the device to be recognised. From reading previous responses, I get the impression that I should be able to get some sort of basic function from standard USB, but would need the special Mini cable to get full use - have I understood this correctly? If I have, what are the chances of the Mini cable solving my problem if I can't even get the device to be recognised via USB at the moment? Thanks for any help you can provide. Laineee Last edited by Laineee : Apr 1st, 2008 at 10:42 PM.

Apr 2nd, 2008, 11:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 9,475 Online	I've got a new USB/aux ipod lead. Anyone prepared to test it & report back - they get to keep the lead for free . p.s. You must have a R56 with the USB connector option, now. Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Apr 3rd, 2008, 12:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
brett 1st MINI Owner in QLD !!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St George Local Time: 08:02 AM Posts: 2,391 Offline	craps, I just bought one. My usual USB cable wouldn't reconise songs, and wouldn;t work, but the BMW one did. Weird 1968 Mk1 Morris Cooper S 1310cc Downton Lake Green - White 1974 Leyland Mini 1098c Country Cream 2008 MINI Cooper S Chilli Pepper White - Black Roof

Apr 4th, 2008, 08:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
airbusA346 Confused By Certain Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 8,934 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original) Cable recieved thanks Mike . Got 2 x 60 mile trips to make over the weekend, so will give the cable a good try That was quick!!!! Owner Of The Last Word Of 2007 :: My Website The Orange Blob As My Avatar Is The Mascot Of JetAlliance Racing Called 'Carli'.

Apr 4th, 2008, 09:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
M111 CGC Mini Madness My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Berkshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 339 Online	The BMW ipod cable interfaces the Ipod to use it to play the music, which is then sent via an analogue (i.e. line out) signal into the Mini's auxiliary jack next to the USB port. This is not the same as connecting a USB memory stick (or hard drive?) to the USB port, as this will access the data files and use the Mini's head unit to decode the audio files (like using an MP3 CD in a Mini CD player). This is why you need a special lead for using an Ipod in the Mini with USB. Even if the Mini could access the hard drive on the Ipod it would not be able to decode the files due to Apple's file format (or DRM?) on the MP3 tracks. It would be interesting to see if there is a cheaper alternative to the BMW lead though...... 2007 Clubman Cooper D ~ 2004 Cooper S JCW

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Apr 2nd, 2008, 02:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Yoastie MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 193 Offline	I understand that it works the way you are trying for all players apart from iPod. For iPod you are looking at the £40 (ish) BMW cable to get it connected. I could be wrong, though...

Apr 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	£40 forget it! Got a cheap cable off ebay, and all functions work fine .

Apr 3rd, 2008, 07:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Laineee MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Local Time: 11:02 PM Posts: 3 Offline	Thanks for the responses - I've just ordered in the BMW cable from the dealership, otherwise I'd definitely take up your offer Mikey! Laineee

Apr 3rd, 2008, 03:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Got Mike's newministuff cable on its way to me. I shall test and report back on here

Apr 4th, 2008, 08:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Cable recieved thanks Mike . Got 2 x 60 mile trips to make over the weekend, so will give the cable a good try

Apr 4th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M111 CGC (original) It would be interesting to see if there is a cheaper alternative to the BMW lead though...... Read my post #3 above. Also about to test Mike's (newministuff) cable, which I would anticipate would be a lot cheaper than the BMW one

Apr 4th, 2008, 10:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by airbusA346 (original) That was quick!!!! Living proof that 1st class recorded can work

Apr 5th, 2008, 08:13 AM	#13 (permalink)
airbusA346 Confused By Certain Users Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 8,934 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by andrewcregan (original) Living proof that 1st class recorded can work It is isn't it, when I normally pay for something to be sent by 1st class recordered it takes 3 days and the postman never gets me to sign anything. Owner Of The Last Word Of 2007 :: My Website The Orange Blob As My Avatar Is The Mascot Of JetAlliance Racing Called 'Carli'.

Apr 5th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
andrewcregan Andrew ATC Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cheshire Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 670 Offline	Unfortunately Mike's new cable does not work . My cable and ipod were working before removal to try the new cable. The new cable never allows the ipod to be recognised - the USB symbol never appears. I then plugged my original (not BMW) cable back in, and all the functions were fully available. This was repeated 3 times to ensure my findings were correct. Each time my ebay cable worked fine, yet Mike's cable never allowed the ipod to be recognised. Mike's cable physically looks far superior to my cheap cable. However, mine works fine . All the best Mike in your continued pursuit in trying to find a cable for your customers, and MINI2ers. Andrew

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Apr 5th, 2008, 07:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
mikeythemini I can't get no sleep My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: Capital of Culture Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 9,475 Online	Thanks for trying it, fling it in the bin or pop it on ebay The search continues Lakes Tour 2008 coming soon Are you ready for Lakes 2008 - details soon

Nov 19th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tom-Bee MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Local Time: 10:02 PM Posts: 4 Offline	ipod cable Andrew what ipod cable did you get off ebay? The ones I can see that aren't the original BMW ones don't charge the ipod via the USB port, they only have a mini jack connection on them.. Cheers. Edit: I found a ipod y cable from Ford will it work? Last edited by Tom-Bee : Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:22 PM. Reason: update

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