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Old Aug 13th, 2007, 07:49 PM   #181
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I have just started a thread in the R53 John Cooper section about what youre vehicle will be shown as on the log book with a JCW conversion fitted.

Im now having real difficulty finding Insurance because they all say that they wont touch a Cooper S with a JCW Conversion because its not fitted at the factory and its merely a modification to improve performance.

Ive tried all the big ones such as Admiral/More Than etc and they all say the same. Unless its out of the factory as a Works then they will not touch it with a bargepole.

Im now beginning to wonder if it would be worth it

I did say that its not like ive just popped down to Halfrauds and bought a load of booty to slap on the new car to make it go faster..........................ITS A PROPER CAR!

But in essance, they see it as the same thing.

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Old Aug 13th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #182 (permalink)
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Thanks, i will give them a try.
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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 10:14 AM   #183 (permalink)
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Hi

Spotted this on North American Motoring.com.....

Not sure if the kit content was what people were expecting

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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 10:18 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Just noticed note 3......

Exhaust manifold (only for ECE vehicles)
.....hmmmm wander what that actually is.....

There is a picture of the exhaust on NAM aswell it looks like you could install the standard MCS exhaust tips on the JCW backbox for the "stealth look" to your 200bhp Mini!!



I gather the EU version of the kit is part number 11 12 0 434 320 as the USA kit ends in a 1.

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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 02:11 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Ahh, now that explains why the recommended fitting time is 2 hours for USA cars and 4 hours for us europeans............they don't need the exhaust manifold.

Roland,

Now the only difference is USA cars have two seperate cats and we get two in one cat in downpipe. I take it this gives us a heat build up issue that doesn't affect US cars !!. If so what is the advantage of the dual cat / downpipe design ( other than you cam mod it ) I thought the US cars were more stringent on CARBS etc. so why didn't BMW run the same design on both sides of the pond ?.

Oh, and can anyone confirm their dealer has fitted a 'demo' kit yet !

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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 04:46 PM   #186 (permalink)
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My dealer has his fitted and i've got a test drive booked for Saturday morning. He did mention one thing, that as it stands at the moment, if the kit becomes available to order for customers they cannot order it for post March 2007 cars due to a programming fault.
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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 08:02 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original)
if the kit becomes available to order for customers they cannot order it for post March 2007 cars due to a programming fault.

Does that mean it will only fit cars produced between November 06 and March 07. I can't see them selling many then

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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 08:51 PM   #188 (permalink)
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[quote][as it stands at the moment/QUOTE]
As its only a programming fault i'm sure there's a fix not too far away.
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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 09:34 PM   #189 (permalink)
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My dealer has his fitted and i've got a test drive booked for Saturday morning. He did mention one thing, that as it stands at the moment, if the kit becomes available to order for customers they cannot order it for post March 2007 cars due to a programming fault.


I'm sorry but your dealer must be talking utter nonsense dear boy. Your dealer has one fitted for you to test drive.......do you think his demo is 6 months old......doubtful. This is just another dealer talking rubbish as far as i'm concerned.

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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 09:45 PM   #190 (permalink)
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My dealer does'nt talk utter nonsense old fellow, I've dealt with same person for 6 years and he said after after the car had been programmed it put on every light on the dashboard but after a lot of messing about got to point where it was working, i even spoke to the dealer principle this afternoon who's car it is to arrange the test drive.
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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #191 (permalink)
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Japper see my message on previous page, a scottish dealer made that comment
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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 06:41 AM   #192 (permalink)
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My dealer does'nt talk utter nonsense old fellow, I've dealt with same person for 6 years and he said after after the car had been programmed it put on every light on the dashboard but after a lot of messing about got to point where it was working, i even spoke to the dealer principle this afternoon who's car it is to arrange the test drive.

Scone, there has been so many stories about this kit, mainly from dealers that hasn't come true, because they generally know less than us. The fact that your comment states they can not fit it because of a programming fault, but after messing about for a while managed to sort it does make me believe they just had problems with the first one. The MINI / All BMW's are notorious for programming times / issues at present.

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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 06:43 AM   #193 (permalink)
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Japper see my message on previous page, a scottish dealer made that comment


? What that the dealers get it first...............i'm not doubting that.

Boy i wish they would get this kit sorted, whatever the hold up is

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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 07:33 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Not looking good though is it.
My car is due at the dealer next week and I have a feeling I will be taking mine without the kit and letting them have it back to do it at a later date.....


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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 10:35 AM   #195 (permalink)
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Not looking good though is it.
My car is due at the dealer next week and I have a feeling I will be taking mine without the kit and letting them have it back to do it at a later date.....

Yeeeeeaaaaahh !.

Good news Neil, my dealer has just phoned to let me know my JCW Tuning kit is leaving the factory today and will be here on Friday. My car arrives early next week.

So it looks like it's finally released and i would chase your dealer for info.

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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 11:55 AM   #196 (permalink)
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Yeeeeeaaaaahh !.

Good news Neil, my dealer has just phoned to let me know my JCW Tuning kit is leaving the factory today and will be here on Friday. My car arrives early next week.

So it looks like it's finally released and i would chase your dealer for info.


Great news... I will see what they have to say


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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 12:01 PM   #197 (permalink)
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Great news... I will see what they have to say

Update:

Neil, it seems my dealer has managed to get 2 demo tuning kits and i'm getting one of them. I don't know whether they are released officially.

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Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original)
My dealer does'nt talk utter nonsense old fellow, I've dealt with same person for 6 years and he said after after the car had been programmed it put on every light on the dashboard but after a lot of messing about got to point where it was working, i even spoke to the dealer principle this afternoon who's car it is to arrange the test drive.

Scone, it seems there are 2500 mini's recently built that are on hold ( cannot be handed to customer ) until a programming fault is sorted to cure an intermittent starting issue. Apparently they will be fixed by the 19th August.

I don't know if this has any connection with what your dealer thought.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)
Update:

Neil, it seems my dealer has managed to get 2 demo tuning kits and i'm getting one of them. I don't know whether they are released officially.

I know that my dealer has managed to order my kit and it should be on its way. Don't know if it is a demo kit or not. I am having the R109's so maybe they have ordered it as part of their deal....


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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 01:17 PM   #200 (permalink)
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Just been into Vines of Redhill and they had their demo 'S' fitted with the kit yesterday, didn't mention that they had any problem when fitting!

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