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Old Jun 14th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #21
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Sorry, forgot to mention in my original post that the following dealers are doing discounted prices: ( according to other forum )

Menzies @ £1210 inc. VAT & Fitting
Eastern @ £1185 inc. VAT & Fitting

I am still awaiting my dealer confirming a similar discount

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Old Jun 14th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)
The kit will be made available sometime in July but an exact date has not yet been published.

The new JCW tuning kit drives the MINI Cooper S to completely new heights of performance: The kit boosts the output of the Twin Scroll turbocharged engine from 175 h.p to 192 h.p (141 kW). And the maximum torque is 250 Nm between 1750 and 5000 rpm. In fact with the overboost function, temporary peak values as high as 270 Nm are possible in the range from 1750 to 4500 rpm. This means the MINI Cooper S accelerates from 0 - 62 mph in only 6.8 seconds and onto a maximum speed of 145 mph (where permissible).

Package includes:
  • JCW air filter system
  • Stainless steel sports exhaust
  • Exhaust manifold for operation at higher temperatures
  • Turbocharger air filter air guide
  • Modified engine electronics system
  • Activation code for engine control unit (specific to chassis number)
  • JCW emblems for front grille and tailgate
  • JCW engine badge with serial kit number
  • JCW certificate of authenticity
The retail price on the kit is £1463 inc VAT and FITTING.

Taken from another forum post It looks like it's officially released to the dealers and not as high a price as i expected, especially with the discount.

........................Off to phone local dealer to add to order....................more money

When I placed my order (3 weeks ago) the dealer categorically stated that there would be no engine upgrades this year. He even told me he had spoken to BMW that morning and it was still in development.

Wish these guys would get themselves sorted!!

And as you say.. I too am off to the dealer tomorrow to get it added to my order! (After I have kicked him down on price that is!)

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Old Jun 14th, 2007, 10:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hi Guys very keen on this kit ,will our car retain some of this extra cost come resale in approx 4 years time. I will be keen to go for a test drive as soon as a car is available to drive.
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Old Jun 15th, 2007, 01:01 AM   #24 (permalink)
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is this the same kit and caboodle that is a $5000USD option at miniusa.com?

just curious.

it seems like a LOT of money for the States.
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Old Jun 15th, 2007, 06:19 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by DerekH (original)
Hi Guys very keen on this kit ,will our car retain some of this extra cost come resale in approx 4 years time. I will be keen to go for a test drive as soon as a car is available to drive.

Derek,

I looked into what the R53Works kit kept in residual and it was poor at around 30% ( of £3500 ) after 3 years but i think that the R56 Stage 1 kit should keep at least £500 so if correct makes this somewhat of a bargain

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Old Jun 15th, 2007, 06:20 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by green_hornet (original)
is this the same kit and caboodle that is a $5000USD option at miniusa.com?

just curious.

it seems like a LOT of money for the States.

That sounds like the Works kit for the R53MCS Cabriolet and not the R56MCS Coupe.

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Old Jun 15th, 2007, 06:52 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Mmmmm, reading and drooling! Hope that it lands in Oz for a realistic price. It all sounds soooo very good!
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Old Jun 16th, 2007, 10:55 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Will the stage 1 kit be available for the R56 Cooper as well as the S?
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Old Jun 17th, 2007, 09:56 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo (original)
Will the stage 1 kit be available for the R56 Cooper as well as the S?

There mite be a sound kit as per the r53. As for resale your burning tenners ,buy because you want it not for when you resell . As your in for a shock, check Parkers Guide r53 with & with out the chilli pack £200 difference in price.

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Old Jun 17th, 2007, 12:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I cannot wait!!! I do not know if i will get it because the full JCW Stage 2 might blow the stage 1 out the water.

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Old Jun 17th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mozza (original)
Not in the states it doesn't. The burble and pop are missing for some reason. I'm assuming it has something to do with emissions standards. The JCW exhaust should fix this though, can't wait to order!

Mozza, here is a link that plays the R56 Cooper S sound track Mini Cooper S

Enjoy.

Do the US R56 S cars sound like this?

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Old Jun 17th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That sound track is wierd You hear the engine on the up and down ages before the exhaust reacts at the the out end, you can actually split the two frequencies on a digital display from an engine acceleration sound to the result coming from the exhaust on the screen, the spikes from throttle input to exhaust output are almost a third of a second apart. That says to me that theres a big obstruction somewhere to cause that amount of delay
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Could relate to this: Debut New Product- 'GTT Stealth Sports Cat' (R56 MCS)

I do really like the new S exhaust note though, spot on.
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Old Jun 18th, 2007, 10:03 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Unhappy Discount??!!

I had a call from a dealer this morning offering me the kit, fully installed, for a knock down £1995, including VAT.

Can anyone find a higher quote than that !

I live 75 miles from Oxford in case you're wondering.
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Old Jun 18th, 2007, 10:11 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by SeldomSeen (original)
I had a call from a dealer this morning offering me the kit, fully installed, for a knock down £1995, including VAT.

Can anyone find a higher quote than that !

I live 75 miles from Oxford in case you're wondering.

Retail for parts alone are £1090 with 4 hours suggested for fitting. That means they're charging £226.25 per hour labour..............................They're havin a laaaf

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Old Jun 18th, 2007, 02:00 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Thats strange i just saw yesterday a press release on one site don't ask me the one but recommended fitting time for stage 1 JCW kit 2 hours, by the way if the dealer tried that sort of price on me i would have cancled our car, I think they are trying it on like a lot of other dealers are at present with extra's we should have a thread to warn people of this unacceptable prices people are being quoted.
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Old Jun 18th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by DerekH (original)
Thats strange i just saw yesterday a press release on one site don't ask me the one but recommended fitting time for stage 1 JCW kit 2 hours, by the way if the dealer tried that sort of price on me i would have cancled our car, I think they are trying it on like a lot of other dealers are at present with extra's we should have a thread to warn people of this unacceptable prices people are being quoted.

Not sure on the 2 hour bit. Retail fitted is £1463 and parts at £1090 so 4 hours does sound about right, but i'll know for sure later today hopefully

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Anyone hazard a guess how much £extra on insurance this kit will add to annual premium (assuming you declare it of course)?
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Quote: Originally Posted by scotland67 (original)
Anyone hazard a guess how much £extra on insurance this kit will add to annual premium (assuming you declare it of course)?

Well i got online quotes for the R56MCS & R53MCS R53MCS Works to try and figure this. The R56MCS was the same as my R53MCS, no difference whatsoever. So i got the quote for the R53MCS Works to give me a guide and it was about £45 extra. My quote for the MCS was about £380 IIRC.

So for me about 10-15% extra.

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Quote: Originally Posted by wow (original)
I cannot wait!!! I do not know if i will get it because the full JCW Stage 2 might blow the stage 1 out the water.

I don't Reckon there will be an official stage 2. BMW doesn't sell upgrades for its M3 or M5 "kits". Now they own JCW i reckon they will just sell a JCW (Mini) with all the bits and a larger capacity engine, maybe 1800. Perhaps squeeze a few more pounds out of the twin scroll, aggresively remap, water cool the IC, improve the fuel flow in the heads, tweak the cams, improve airflow around the bits that need to be cool etc..

Add to that better brakes and suspension and a few pretty bits.

Reckon it'll be good for 180BHP. and about a AU$90,000 hole in your wallet. Good for re-sale though - if you col dever part with it!
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