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Simon Syddall · Jun 21st, 2007, 01:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wheyaye2 (original)

The standard S is probably enough to beat the R53 Works based upon what happened on Sunday's rolling road event at the Lakes Run.

Oh - bugger!!

Having driven my partner's R56 MCS, it does feel, in an unscientific way, as fast as my R53 JCW210. I suspect that this is a feature of torque and the excellent power delivery of the new engine.

Would also have to agree that it is a much more refined, "grown-up" car, but somehow not as exciting and involving as the "old" one.

As to the "burble", I love the pops and crackles of my 210, but it does sound tinny. I hope an Alta 2.5" would sort that.......(?) The R56 sounds a lot better, more powerful and it crackles, as well.

Looking forward to trying the R56 JCW stage 1!

PS one contributor did say "if your R53 is not running properly" - having spent an eye-watering £3,600 to get 40 bhp, I would want £90 back for each one missing!!!

Arnbut · Jun 22nd, 2007, 07:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wow (original)

Mozza, here is a link that plays the R56 Cooper S sound track Mini Cooper S

Enjoy.

Do the US R56 S cars sound like this?

No; not at all. There's a little noise coming from the aft end but you need to have the windows down to hear it.
In fact, compared to my R53S, my R56S seems refined (shudder). It's not a problem though. I'll save my pennies and slide the stage 1 kit on when the wife isn't looking...

scone · Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:53 AM

Sorry to advertise another site but I have just been listening to an interview with Mike Cooper over at Motoring file where he talks about the new R56 JCW kit. He says it was developed by himself in exactly the same way as the previous kit and the kits themselves are currently at the factory in Sussex waiting to be shipped to the dealers next week. He also tells of his sons disappointment when he takes the new car for drive and finds that it's faster than his GP.

wow · Jun 25th, 2007, 10:41 AM

Scone, your post has just made me wet my pants!

I can just picture it and hear it!! Once again it must have 4 wheel drive for me to even conmsider it. Torque steer is driving me crazy

Paul · Jun 25th, 2007, 10:43 AM

Man selling tuning kit says "It's brilliant" shocker.

Not saying it isn't, but what else would you expect Mike Cooper or MINI to say about their own performance package.

Arnbut · Jun 25th, 2007, 11:56 AM

When
Will
It
Get
Here
And
How
Much $$$?

scone · Jun 25th, 2007, 07:14 PM

It'll be $2100 plus fitting(2 hrs suggested fitting time) and it should be in states at the end of July.

Arnbut · Jun 25th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original)

It'll be $2100 plus fitting(2 hrs suggested fitting time) and it should be in states at the end of July.

$2100 in my money or your money?
I'm new to this pound/pence/shilling thing.
I like haggis and Scotch but the conversion rates are perplexing...

Paul · Jun 25th, 2007, 10:58 PM

$ = dollar
£ = pound

burack · Jun 26th, 2007, 12:15 PM

OH MY LOVIN GOD! I CAN NOT EVEN MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE!

I JUST CANT STOP lovin the R56!

118 · Jun 26th, 2007, 12:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by burack (original)

OH MY LOVIN GOD! I CAN NOT EVEN MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE!

I JUST CANT STOP lovin the R56!

pmsl you feeling alright

ru81 · Jun 26th, 2007, 03:11 PM

Just seen this on the autocar website. Basically states what is said in the first post of this thread.

Autocar - New Mini gets Cooper Works treatment

Arnbut · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:05 PM

As of yesterday my local dealer (Global Imports) has no knowledge of the JCW Stage-1 Kit --- at all.

118 · Jun 28th, 2007, 01:19 PM

I saw my dealer last week & he said that they had just received details on the stage 1 kit - he's going to email me them

n5290066 · Jun 28th, 2007, 11:45 PM

Please publish the spec when you get it. I have one on order and want add extra bits. Don't want to duplicate whats already covered though.

Paul · Jun 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM

Doesn't the first post tell you all you need to know at this stage?

n5290066 · Jun 29th, 2007, 12:26 AM

Not Really Paul. As below
# CW air filter system
# Stainless steel sports exhaust
# Exhaust manifold for operation at higher temperatures
# Turbocharger air filter air guide
# Modified engine electronics system
# Activation code for engine control unit (specific to chassis number)
# JCW emblems for front grille and tailgate
# JCW engine badge with serial kit number
# JCW certificate of authenticity

There is no actual mention of the Cat being replaced and the talk seems to be that the SS exhaust is only cat-back.

Paul · Jun 29th, 2007, 12:29 AM

Is that it, or is there more you would like clearing up/clarifying? If you post it here I can try and clear some details up with the people from MINI.

Japper · Jun 29th, 2007, 06:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Is that it, or is there more you would like clearing up/clarifying? If you post it here I can try and clear some details up with the people from MINI.

Hi Paul,

Yeah, no one is sure whether, when they mention 'exhaust mani' they mean block to turbo mani or cat downpipe.

If you could find out that would be great.

This is for those that are looking at the possibillity of the GTT Stealth cat in conjunction with the JCW192 kit.

C.

CC07ERS · Jun 29th, 2007, 08:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by wow (original)

Scone, your post has just made me wet my pants!

I can just picture it and hear it!! Once again it must have 4 wheel drive for me to even conmsider it. Torque steer is driving me crazy

I take it your getting it when it comes out then

Jun 21st, 2007, 01:00 PM	#41
Simon Syddall Syd My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lincolnshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 127 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wheyaye2 (original) The standard S is probably enough to beat the R53 Works based upon what happened on Sunday's rolling road event at the Lakes Run. Oh - bugger!! Having driven my partner's R56 MCS, it does feel, in an unscientific way, as fast as my R53 JCW210. I suspect that this is a feature of torque and the excellent power delivery of the new engine. Would also have to agree that it is a much more refined, "grown-up" car, but somehow not as exciting and involving as the "old" one. As to the "burble", I love the pops and crackles of my 210, but it does sound tinny. I hope an Alta 2.5" would sort that.......(?) The R56 sounds a lot better, more powerful and it crackles, as well. Looking forward to trying the R56 JCW stage 1! PS one contributor did say "if your R53 is not running properly" - having spent an eye-watering £3,600 to get 40 bhp, I would want £90 back for each one missing!!! UNLESS YOU LIVE LIFE ON THE EDGE, YOU ARE TAKING UP TOO MUCH SPACE

Jun 22nd, 2007, 07:11 PM	#42 (permalink)
Arnbut Manic Hill-Dweller Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canton, Georgia Local Time: 03:57 PM Posts: 204 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wow (original) Mozza, here is a link that plays the R56 Cooper S sound track Mini Cooper S Enjoy. Do the US R56 S cars sound like this? No; not at all. There's a little noise coming from the aft end but you need to have the windows down to hear it. In fact, compared to my R53S, my R56S seems refined (shudder). It's not a problem though. I'll save my pennies and slide the stage 1 kit on when the wife isn't looking... Safety fast, Bill

Jun 25th, 2007, 10:41 AM	#44 (permalink)
wow MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 573 Offline	Scone, your post has just made me wet my pants! I can just picture it and hear it!! Once again it must have 4 wheel drive for me to even conmsider it. Torque steer is driving me crazy MINI, it is a way of life.

Jun 25th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#45 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 46,125 Online	Man selling tuning kit says "It's brilliant" shocker. Not saying it isn't, but what else would you expect Mike Cooper or MINI to say about their own performance package. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Jun 25th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#46 (permalink)
Arnbut Manic Hill-Dweller Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canton, Georgia Local Time: 03:57 PM Posts: 204 Offline	When Will It Get Here And How Much $$$? Safety fast, Bill

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Jun 23rd, 2007, 11:53 AM	#43 (permalink)
scone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Winsford,Cheshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 184 Offline	Sorry to advertise another site but I have just been listening to an interview with Mike Cooper over at Motoring file where he talks about the new R56 JCW kit. He says it was developed by himself in exactly the same way as the previous kit and the kits themselves are currently at the factory in Sussex waiting to be shipped to the dealers next week. He also tells of his sons disappointment when he takes the new car for drive and finds that it's faster than his GP.

Jun 25th, 2007, 07:14 PM	#47 (permalink)
scone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Winsford,Cheshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 184 Offline	It'll be $2100 plus fitting(2 hrs suggested fitting time) and it should be in states at the end of July.

Jun 25th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#48 (permalink)
Arnbut Manic Hill-Dweller Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canton, Georgia Local Time: 03:57 PM Posts: 204 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original) It'll be $2100 plus fitting(2 hrs suggested fitting time) and it should be in states at the end of July. $2100 in my money or your money? I'm new to this pound/pence/shilling thing. I like haggis and Scotch but the conversion rates are perplexing... Safety fast, Bill

Jun 25th, 2007, 10:58 PM	#49 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 46,125 Online	$ = dollar £ = pound Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Jun 26th, 2007, 12:15 PM	#50 (permalink)
burack MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: istanbul, Turkey Local Time: 09:57 PM Posts: 73 Offline	OH MY LOVIN GOD! I CAN NOT EVEN MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE! I JUST CANT STOP lovin the R56!

Jun 26th, 2007, 12:45 PM	#51 (permalink)
118 Hamster on The Job... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 18,702 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by burack (original) OH MY LOVIN GOD! I CAN NOT EVEN MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ONE! I JUST CANT STOP lovin the R56! pmsl you feeling alright * The Italian Job 2008...... Team 50 - please sponsor us by clicking on my sig! * clicky here to visit the UJ Owners Club thread

Jun 26th, 2007, 03:11 PM	#52 (permalink)
ru81 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 07:57 PM Posts: 271 Offline	Just seen this on the autocar website. Basically states what is said in the first post of this thread. Autocar - New Mini gets Cooper Works treatment

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#53 (permalink)
Arnbut Manic Hill-Dweller Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canton, Georgia Local Time: 03:57 PM Posts: 204 Offline	As of yesterday my local dealer (Global Imports) has no knowledge of the JCW Stage-1 Kit --- at all. Safety fast, Bill

Jun 28th, 2007, 01:19 PM	#54 (permalink)
118 Hamster on The Job... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Sussex Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 18,702 Offline	I saw my dealer last week & he said that they had just received details on the stage 1 kit - he's going to email me them * The Italian Job 2008...... Team 50 - please sponsor us by clicking on my sig! * clicky here to visit the UJ Owners Club thread

Jun 28th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#55 (permalink)
n5290066 in28ive Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Australia Local Time: 05:57 AM Posts: 207 Offline	Please publish the spec when you get it. I have one on order and want add extra bits. Don't want to duplicate whats already covered though.

Jun 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM	#56 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 46,125 Online	Doesn't the first post tell you all you need to know at this stage? Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Jun 29th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#57 (permalink)
n5290066 in28ive Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Australia Local Time: 05:57 AM Posts: 207 Offline	Not Really Paul. As below # CW air filter system # Stainless steel sports exhaust # Exhaust manifold for operation at higher temperatures # Turbocharger air filter air guide # Modified engine electronics system # Activation code for engine control unit (specific to chassis number) # JCW emblems for front grille and tailgate # JCW engine badge with serial kit number # JCW certificate of authenticity There is no actual mention of the Cat being replaced and the talk seems to be that the SS exhaust is only cat-back.

Jun 29th, 2007, 12:29 AM	#58 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 46,125 Online	Is that it, or is there more you would like clearing up/clarifying? If you post it here I can try and clear some details up with the people from MINI. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Jun 29th, 2007, 06:20 AM	#59 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 891 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Is that it, or is there more you would like clearing up/clarifying? If you post it here I can try and clear some details up with the people from MINI. Hi Paul, Yeah, no one is sure whether, when they mention 'exhaust mani' they mean block to turbo mani or cat downpipe. If you could find out that would be great. This is for those that are looking at the possibillity of the GTT Stealth cat in conjunction with the JCW192 kit. C. 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Jun 29th, 2007, 08:15 AM	#60 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 08:57 PM Posts: 2,694 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wow (original) Scone, your post has just made me wet my pants! I can just picture it and hear it!! Once again it must have 4 wheel drive for me to even conmsider it. Torque steer is driving me crazy I take it your getting it when it comes out then

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