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scone · Jul 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by J1JPE (original)

Blue Bell in Crewe were advertising it as available 2 weeks ago & there flier says a demo car will be available 'soon'

I was speaking to Blue Bell during the week and despite what the leaflet says they still don't have a delivery date, they said they are getting there demo kit near enough free from BMW if they order a set of R109 wheels.

Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original)

They said they are getting there demo kit near enough free from BMW if they order a set of R109 wheels.

Did you ask if they'd do the same deal for customers?

Japper · Jul 13th, 2007, 04:59 PM

Each dealer has the option of one package that includes the 192 kit together with R109's and the steering limiter etc. Think the deal saves them around £660 on top of their usual 25% markup. So yeah the kit is basically free.

It has to be the R109 wheels not R105's and to use as a demo.

dunphyj · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original)

True...just its not quite as ... I dunno special as I would hope for. Then again the 1500 price tag may be a reflection of this as the R53 was 210bhp with a 3500 tag so maybe they know its not as "impressive" a figure so the cost is a bit lower?

Still be nice to see some JCW R56s though

i'm sorry ... i couldn't help but notice this one line on this quite....

My friend... the mini, while may not be the most powerful car out there, i garantee you, is by far the most special car you can get for under 100k. it smacks a Scion tC in terms of "youification", makes Audi/VW's 2.0L FSI turbo engine envious in how amazing the spool is even with a Garrett GT2560R turbo upgrade, fuel economy and emissions that rivals other "entry level" fuel sippers and can still shame those other cars. on top of that look at how the damn thing does on the track.... using stock 16x6.5 wheels and tires... no LSD, no sports suspension... nothing like that... the MCS turned up a 3:22.9 lap time at the Virginia International Raceway.... that's faster than the "track ready VW GTI's 3:25.1 and the Civic Si's 3:26.5. now add in the fact that there will be a more powerful one with simple BREATHING MODS!, make that with an LSD and Sports package, sports suspension (or even an aftermarket 19mm from Alta

) and your car that seemed not as "special as you hopped for" will easily take on a mazdaspeed3 or pintiac solstice GXP, both of which have more power.

last but not least throw in a COMPITENT DRIVER and your mini cooper s will out class, our run, out perform, and stare at any and all competition through it's rear view mirror. they shoudl change the phrase on the cooper s's mirrors from "objects in the mirror are closer than they appear" to "objectsin the mirror or losing"

oh and one more point.... regardless of how much power the others have.... the mini still weighs less

Washy · Jul 14th, 2007, 01:45 PM

I have just returned from my dealer who tells me the tuning kit is available now and that they will have a demo on the road from Sept 1st.....

daro911 · Jul 14th, 2007, 07:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

I have just returned from my dealer who tells me the tuning kit is available now and that they will have a demo on the road from Sept 1st.....

If kit is available now why the feck is your dealer waiting for September 1st!

Between now and then he could have sold a dozen+ kits if a demo JCWMCS would have been available for test drives

Washy · Jul 14th, 2007, 07:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by daro911 (original)

If kit is available now why the feck is your dealer waiting for September 1st!

Between now and then he could have sold a dozen+ kits if a demo JCWMCS would have been available for test drives

I guess they dont want to register a new demo before the new reg...

I for one would have like a go sooner...

daro911 · Jul 14th, 2007, 07:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

I guess they dont want to register a new demo before the new reg...

I for one would have like a go sooner...

Dealers aren't usually that fussed about reg plates as they always tell the punter its the year of registration that counts not the March or September plate

Anyway if they have kits available now why don't they fit it to there current demo MCS which according to them will make all the money back at resale time sir

Washy · Jul 14th, 2007, 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by daro911 (original)

Dealers aren't usually that fussed about reg plates as they always tell the punter its the year of registration that counts not the March or September plate

Anyway if they have kits available now why don't they fit it to there current demo MCS which according to them will make all the money back at resale time sir

think we both know the answer to that one....

Maaij · Jul 15th, 2007, 12:10 PM

Will this be a 1 piece exhaust from the cat. or do you need to cut of the original exhaust?

DerekH · Jul 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Is the dealer not waiting for the 2008 model car to put the kit on only a thought

Washy · Jul 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DerekH (original)

Is the dealer not waiting for the 2008 model car to put the kit on only a thought

Probably more like it..

Hyper Active · Jul 16th, 2007, 07:32 PM

I hope nobody minds me asking this question. But is this Stage 1 kit a genuine power up grade, or just a sound kit with a little more torque to give impression that it's faster.

I'm just wondering as new owners who have dyno'd there R56 MCS's have been consistently getting figures of around 195 bhp, on standard cars officially only supposed to be rated at 175 bhp.

So is this kit pretending to give you 192 bhp when the standard car already produces this, or is this kit giving you another 20 bhp on top of the claimed figure like the standard car dose, and is really giving you 212 bhp.

minimad17 · Jul 16th, 2007, 07:43 PM

i would never get insured with the works kit! its hard enough to get insured with a standard S!

Washy · Jul 16th, 2007, 07:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original)

I hope nobody minds me asking this question. But is this Stage 1 kit a genuine power up grade, or just a sound kit with a little more torque to give impression that it's faster.

I'm just wondering as new owners who have dyno'd there R56 MCS's have been consistently getting figures of around 195 bhp, on standard cars officially only supposed to be rated at 175 bhp.

So is this kit pretending to give you 192 bhp when the standard car already produces this, or is this kit giving you another 20 bhp on top of the claimed figure like the standard car dose, and is really giving you 212 bhp.

I guess we will only really find that out when someone has one fitted and gets it on the dyno....

ScoobyDoo · Jul 16th, 2007, 10:25 PM

Spoke to my local MINI garage today and they are expecting their demo in in the first week of August

zyo · Jul 16th, 2007, 10:42 PM

My dealer has a advert on their desk which says that the kit is £1399 including vat and fitting.

Arnbut · Jul 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM

Anybody have U.S. pricing?
I'm going to try and talk the dealer into free installation as payment for the transmission hassles.

miniXL · Jul 17th, 2007, 12:49 AM

Hi Guys,

I'm going to have to miss out out on this one after all...

I suddenly ran into some money issues and can't quite splash on this at the minute (Sorry to disappoint Popey!)

Good luck to the rest of you lucky devils!

popey · Jul 17th, 2007, 12:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by miniXL (original)

Hi Guys,

I'm going to have to miss out out on this one after all...

I suddenly ran into some money issues and can't quite splash on this at the minute (Sorry to disappoint Popey!)

Good luck to the rest of you lucky devils!

What a shame mate. But I know how you feel Im buying a house and may have to put 10% depostit down

. Hope things aint to bad pal

.

Jul 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM	#82 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 46,127 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by scone (original) They said they are getting there demo kit near enough free from BMW if they order a set of R109 wheels. Did you ask if they'd do the same deal for customers? Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Jul 13th, 2007, 04:59 PM	#83 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 891 Offline	Each dealer has the option of one package that includes the 192 kit together with R109's and the steering limiter etc. Think the deal saves them around £660 on top of their usual 25% markup. So yeah the kit is basically free. It has to be the R109 wheels not R105's and to use as a demo. 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM	#84 (permalink)
dunphyj MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 05:42 PM Posts: 25 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original) True...just its not quite as ... I dunno special as I would hope for. Then again the 1500 price tag may be a reflection of this as the R53 was 210bhp with a 3500 tag so maybe they know its not as "impressive" a figure so the cost is a bit lower? Still be nice to see some JCW R56s though i'm sorry ... i couldn't help but notice this one line on this quite.... My friend... the mini, while may not be the most powerful car out there, i garantee you, is by far the most special car you can get for under 100k. it smacks a Scion tC in terms of "youification", makes Audi/VW's 2.0L FSI turbo engine envious in how amazing the spool is even with a Garrett GT2560R turbo upgrade, fuel economy and emissions that rivals other "entry level" fuel sippers and can still shame those other cars. on top of that look at how the damn thing does on the track.... using stock 16x6.5 wheels and tires... no LSD, no sports suspension... nothing like that... the MCS turned up a 3:22.9 lap time at the Virginia International Raceway.... that's faster than the "track ready VW GTI's 3:25.1 and the Civic Si's 3:26.5. now add in the fact that there will be a more powerful one with simple BREATHING MODS!, make that with an LSD and Sports package, sports suspension (or even an aftermarket 19mm from Alta ) and your car that seemed not as "special as you hopped for" will easily take on a mazdaspeed3 or pintiac solstice GXP, both of which have more power. last but not least throw in a COMPITENT DRIVER and your mini cooper s will out class, our run, out perform, and stare at any and all competition through it's rear view mirror. they shoudl change the phrase on the cooper s's mirrors from "objects in the mirror are closer than they appear" to "objectsin the mirror or losing" oh and one more point.... regardless of how much power the others have.... the mini still weighs less 07' MCS

Jul 14th, 2007, 01:45 PM	#85 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	I have just returned from my dealer who tells me the tuning kit is available now and that they will have a demo on the road from Sept 1st..... Black to the future....

Jul 14th, 2007, 07:02 PM	#86 (permalink)
daro911 MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 483 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) I have just returned from my dealer who tells me the tuning kit is available now and that they will have a demo on the road from Sept 1st..... If kit is available now why the feck is your dealer waiting for September 1st! Between now and then he could have sold a dozen+ kits if a demo JCWMCS would have been available for test drives Too many freaks not enough circuses Tell a man that there are 400 billion stars and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint and he has to touch it.

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Jul 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM	#81
scone MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2004 Location: Winsford,Cheshire Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 184 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by J1JPE (original) Blue Bell in Crewe were advertising it as available 2 weeks ago & there flier says a demo car will be available 'soon' I was speaking to Blue Bell during the week and despite what the leaflet says they still don't have a delivery date, they said they are getting there demo kit near enough free from BMW if they order a set of R109 wheels.

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Jul 14th, 2007, 07:05 PM	#87 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by daro911 (original) If kit is available now why the feck is your dealer waiting for September 1st! Between now and then he could have sold a dozen+ kits if a demo JCWMCS would have been available for test drives I guess they dont want to register a new demo before the new reg... I for one would have like a go sooner... Black to the future....

Jul 14th, 2007, 07:19 PM	#88 (permalink)
daro911 MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 483 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) I guess they dont want to register a new demo before the new reg... I for one would have like a go sooner... Dealers aren't usually that fussed about reg plates as they always tell the punter its the year of registration that counts not the March or September plate Anyway if they have kits available now why don't they fit it to there current demo MCS which according to them will make all the money back at resale time sir Too many freaks not enough circuses Tell a man that there are 400 billion stars and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint and he has to touch it.

Jul 14th, 2007, 07:21 PM	#89 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by daro911 (original) Dealers aren't usually that fussed about reg plates as they always tell the punter its the year of registration that counts not the March or September plate Anyway if they have kits available now why don't they fit it to there current demo MCS which according to them will make all the money back at resale time sir think we both know the answer to that one.... Black to the future....

Jul 15th, 2007, 12:10 PM	#90 (permalink)
Maaij MINI2 Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 298 Offline	Will this be a 1 piece exhaust from the cat. or do you need to cut of the original exhaust?

Jul 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#91 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 825 Offline	Is the dealer not waiting for the 2008 model car to put the kit on only a thought

Jul 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#92 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DerekH (original) Is the dealer not waiting for the 2008 model car to put the kit on only a thought Probably more like it.. Black to the future....

Jul 16th, 2007, 07:32 PM	#93 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 2,126 Offline	I hope nobody minds me asking this question. But is this Stage 1 kit a genuine power up grade, or just a sound kit with a little more torque to give impression that it's faster. I'm just wondering as new owners who have dyno'd there R56 MCS's have been consistently getting figures of around 195 bhp, on standard cars officially only supposed to be rated at 175 bhp. So is this kit pretending to give you 192 bhp when the standard car already produces this, or is this kit giving you another 20 bhp on top of the claimed figure like the standard car dose, and is really giving you 212 bhp.

Jul 16th, 2007, 07:43 PM	#94 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 198 Offline	i would never get insured with the works kit! its hard enough to get insured with a standard S!

Jul 16th, 2007, 07:51 PM	#95 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original) I hope nobody minds me asking this question. But is this Stage 1 kit a genuine power up grade, or just a sound kit with a little more torque to give impression that it's faster. I'm just wondering as new owners who have dyno'd there R56 MCS's have been consistently getting figures of around 195 bhp, on standard cars officially only supposed to be rated at 175 bhp. So is this kit pretending to give you 192 bhp when the standard car already produces this, or is this kit giving you another 20 bhp on top of the claimed figure like the standard car dose, and is really giving you 212 bhp. I guess we will only really find that out when someone has one fitted and gets it on the dyno.... Black to the future....

Jul 16th, 2007, 10:25 PM	#96 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,426 Offline	Spoke to my local MINI garage today and they are expecting their demo in in the first week of August http://www.dbrally.net

Jul 16th, 2007, 10:42 PM	#97 (permalink)
zyo owt else is just traffic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Edge of Reason Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,431 Offline	My dealer has a advert on their desk which says that the kit is £1399 including vat and fitting.

Jul 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM	#98 (permalink)
Arnbut Manic Hill-Dweller Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Canton, Georgia Local Time: 05:42 PM Posts: 204 Offline	Anybody have U.S. pricing? I'm going to try and talk the dealer into free installation as payment for the transmission hassles. Safety fast, Bill

Jul 17th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#99 (permalink)
miniXL Small + Car = Big Smiles Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 09:42 PM Posts: 407 Offline	Hi Guys, I'm going to have to miss out out on this one after all... I suddenly ran into some money issues and can't quite splash on this at the minute (Sorry to disappoint Popey!) Good luck to the rest of you lucky devils!

Jul 17th, 2007, 12:52 PM	#100 (permalink)
popey Blackpool Mini My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 10:42 PM Posts: 1,441 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by miniXL (original) Hi Guys, I'm going to have to miss out out on this one after all... I suddenly ran into some money issues and can't quite splash on this at the minute (Sorry to disappoint Popey!) Good luck to the rest of you lucky devils! What a shame mate. But I know how you feel Im buying a house and may have to put 10% depostit down. Hope things aint to bad pal. Now With Toyo Rubber!!

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