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Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 05:37 PM

Freshly plucked from the grapevine:
Factory JCW MINI Cooper S Next Year?

LMB · Jul 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Freshly plucked from the grapevine:
Factory JCW MINI Cooper S Next Year?

Interesting, sounds like it could be a bit of a bargain.

simeds · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:16 PM

i was waiting for this news, but i think after moving house i may be a little to skint even for a bargain

Washy · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM

Oh *** it.....

just when I thought I had made my mind up....

AidenL · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Oh *** it.....

just when I thought I havd made my mind up....

Mwahahahahahahhahahaha

Hyper Active · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:50 PM

Will this be the stage 2 kit ?.

Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Oh *** it.....

just when I thought I had made my mind up....

You say that as though you would keep the car longer anyway?!

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:54 PM

An additional 2bhp over the previous car

well that's progress!

I doubt it'll worry the like of Roland too much

Washy · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

You say that as though you would keep the car longer anyway?!

Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 06:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

An additional 2bhp over the previous car

well that's progress!

I doubt it'll worry the like of Roland too much

When you consider the Cooper S now is very closely matched to the old 210 JCW S, this should, in performance terms, "Whoop it's bottom", as I believe the young people say.

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM

That'll be the 175bhp Cooper S that's well matched to the 210bhp JCW I assume?

Seriously, I know what you mean (the turbo engine has a broader spread of torque), but it is interesting that it's "only" 212 bhp after all the optimistic hype about 230+ bhp that's been published over the last year or so

LMB · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:12 PM

Forget BHP, it's the torque that matters. Even the current Cooper S has more than the old Works.

Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

That'll be the 175bhp Cooper S that's well matched to the 210bhp JCW I assume?

Seriously, I know what you mean (the turbo engine has a broader spread of torque), but it is interesting that it's "only" 212 bhp after all the optimistic hype about 230+ bhp that's been published over the last year or so

It's a shame it's dropped as just about 220 hp was on the cars for quite a while, but torque figures (which unfortunately remain a little foggy), as Mo says are very important, and should be impressive.

CC07ERS · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM

This mite tempt me back from the darkside

Mini-Trainer · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:30 PM

You can get an upgrade for 1600 pounds now, it breaks it up to around 190bhp.
This price includes all engine modifications and fitment.
Am I to take it that this is the stage 1 kit?

Rams

Minis4ever · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Great news!

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 13th, 2007, 07:58 PM

I don't need convincing about torque, I drive a 295 lb/ft / 400 NM turbo diesel car for my job! If it is to be a torque monster, I wonder why they published the bhp figure alone?

LMB · Jul 13th, 2007, 08:12 PM

Probably because most people just look at the bhp.

Paul · Jul 13th, 2007, 08:29 PM

This isn't official news at all. I couldn't get anything near solid information on the torque figure unfortunately.

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 13th, 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB (original)

Probably because most people just look at the bhp.

Very true

Jul 13th, 2007, 05:37 PM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,514 Online	Factory JCW - 212 bhp - Next Year Freshly plucked from the grapevine: Factory JCW MINI Cooper S Next Year? Trained Monkeys

Jul 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Freshly plucked from the grapevine: Factory JCW MINI Cooper S Next Year? Interesting, sounds like it could be a bit of a bargain. Global Moderator

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simeds IM ALSO A COUNTRY MEMBER My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In a bath in Bath Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 6,242 Offline	i was waiting for this news, but i think after moving house i may be a little to skint even for a bargain *Friend of the Mini-less*

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Washy Six cylinders two turbos Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 18,723 Offline	Oh * it..... just when I thought I had made my mind up.... 135i M sport convertible**

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AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,989 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) Oh * it..... just when I thought I havd made my mind up.... Mwahahahahahahhahahaha Global Moderator**

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Jul 13th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 2,267 Offline	Will this be the stage 2 kit ?.

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,514 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) Oh *** it..... just when I thought I had made my mind up.... You say that as though you would keep the car longer anyway?! Trained Monkeys

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	An additional 2bhp over the previous car well that's progress! I doubt it'll worry the like of Roland too much Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Washy Six cylinders two turbos Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 18,723 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) You say that as though you would keep the car longer anyway?! 135i M sport convertible

Jul 13th, 2007, 06:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,514 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original) An additional 2bhp over the previous car well that's progress! I doubt it'll worry the like of Roland too much When you consider the Cooper S now is very closely matched to the old 210 JCW S, this should, in performance terms, "Whoop it's bottom", as I believe the young people say. Trained Monkeys

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	That'll be the 175bhp Cooper S that's well matched to the 210bhp JCW I assume? Seriously, I know what you mean (the turbo engine has a broader spread of torque), but it is interesting that it's "only" 212 bhp after all the optimistic hype about 230+ bhp that's been published over the last year or so Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Forget BHP, it's the torque that matters. Even the current Cooper S has more than the old Works. Global Moderator

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,514 Online	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original) That'll be the 175bhp Cooper S that's well matched to the 210bhp JCW I assume? Seriously, I know what you mean (the turbo engine has a broader spread of torque), but it is interesting that it's "only" 212 bhp after all the optimistic hype about 230+ bhp that's been published over the last year or so It's a shame it's dropped as just about 220 hp was on the cars for quite a while, but torque figures (which unfortunately remain a little foggy), as Mo says are very important, and should be impressive. Trained Monkeys

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 2,718 Offline	This mite tempt me back from the darkside

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mini-Trainer Morph-a-Doodle My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Shakey Wakey!! Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 3,003 Offline	You can get an upgrade for 1600 pounds now, it breaks it up to around 190bhp. This price includes all engine modifications and fitment. Am I to take it that this is the stage 1 kit? Rams MINI Test Vid - Google Video New MINI JCW Test Drive... My Sharona R56 JCW Vs R53 JCW :-http://www.vimeo.com/1212517

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
Minis4ever MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 30 Offline	Great news!

Jul 13th, 2007, 07:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	I don't need convincing about torque, I drive a 295 lb/ft / 400 NM turbo diesel car for my job! If it is to be a torque monster, I wonder why they published the bhp figure alone? Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Jul 13th, 2007, 08:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Probably because most people just look at the bhp. Global Moderator

Jul 13th, 2007, 08:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 40,514 Online	This isn't official news at all. I couldn't get anything near solid information on the torque figure unfortunately. Trained Monkeys

Jul 13th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB (original) Probably because most people just look at the bhp. Very true Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

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