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RedIan Dwarf · Sep 15th, 2007, 07:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original)

I'll keep the GP

Having just bought a GP 2 1/2 months ago I would agree. Much more fun than a New generation Cooper S. May change my mind when the final spec comes out though.

LordNemesis · Sep 26th, 2007, 10:00 AM

I'm confuuused - (not tricky at the best of times...) is this the SAME rumour as the non-road-legal Challenger (now officially announced), or is it a factory-prod road-legal Works we're talking about...

the_penguin_pusher · Oct 17th, 2007, 08:39 AM

i know i have heard rumours of a 225 bhp mini cooper s called the JCW stage II. well before that i had known about mini releasing a challenge cooper s. tbh im a bit gutted they have turned out to be the same car, which is what this article seems to state. i was hoping the challenge car would be exactly that with a road legal version similar to that of a new GP works car being the JCW stage II. I had also heard that it wasnt being released until 2009 with production starting in late 2008. If anyone has any more information please post.

LMB · Oct 22nd, 2007, 02:16 PM

Anymore news on this?

wow · Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:30 PM

MINI tests there new cars for 24 months before production. So if there is factory JCW arriving next year it should be in the middle of its testing now.

DHA · Oct 22nd, 2007, 06:58 PM

Some people have deposits at dealers for this car.

the_penguin_pusher · Oct 24th, 2007, 05:22 PM

right so we have established that people are paying deposits, but what actually is the car?

LMB · Oct 24th, 2007, 05:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by the_penguin_pusher (original)

right so we have established that people are paying deposits, but what actually is the car?

My dealer have no info on it.

kevkbuk · Oct 25th, 2007, 09:07 AM

There is no 'real' info!

Everything regarding it on the internet is rumour, however some dealers have taken deposits. Having said that they themselves don't seem to know anything about it!

I asked my dealer as soon as I found out people had paid deposits, they said they didn't know anything at all and would not take my money. They assumed the dealers had taken the deposits to give first refusal IF any announcement was made for a new model.

My guess would be Nov '08 for the JCW if it exists and they wouldn't announce it this early.

Hugo · Oct 25th, 2007, 09:36 AM

Wonder what the price is going like?

A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc.

coded2112 · Oct 25th, 2007, 09:48 AM

Its going to have to be very good to get me out of my GP!

Washy · Oct 25th, 2007, 10:25 AM

If the new stage one JCW is anything to go by the full fat factory version will be awesome....

Japper · Oct 25th, 2007, 10:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)

Wonder what the price is going like?

A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc.

Yikes

LMB · Oct 25th, 2007, 11:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original)

Wonder what the price is going like?

A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc.

It proves the GP is the bargain of the century.

Jaydash · Oct 28th, 2007, 12:58 AM

If a JCW car IS in the pipeline rather than the roll-caged Challenge, won't this basically be a Cooper S with all the kit added? To be honest, I would stick with speccing-up a normal S with brake and engine upgrades, because the stiffer Works suspension absolutely ruined the GP (in my opinion). It's no wonder some mags said a Golf GTI would beat a GP across country, due to the better resolved suspension. I would tend to concur to an extent, having had one and been shocked at the 'skippy' way it rode when driven hard.

DHA · Oct 28th, 2007, 09:06 AM

Owning both a GP and a GTI I would have to disagree, we on the roads in Surrey anyway. The shorter wheelbase on the GP coupled with the firmer ride makes it a much faster cross country car.

LMB · Oct 28th, 2007, 12:43 PM

The GP's suspension is SUPERB. I owned a Works prior to purchasing a GP and the difference in the handling was huge.

Jaydash · Nov 3rd, 2007, 12:54 PM

Wasn't the GP suspension absolutely idenitical to the Works suspension? The GP just had all the Works stuff fitted i.e. brakes, suspension, engine upgrade (plus a couple of extra bhp etc)

I agree that the GP goes round corners like it's on rails, but it's established that longer wheelbase cars generally give a better ride. I just found that my car skipped and hopped across uneven road surfaces and was quite a handful - it's probably true that you can drive other, similarly-powerful cars quicker (maybe even 230Bhp ED30 GTIs, which is the car I was referring to...yes, I know it's much heavier).

I don't think we're going to agree though, as you guys are current owners and obviously love your GPs! Fair enough.

Sep 15th, 2007, 07:02 PM	#21
RedIan Dwarf GP 1991 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Highlands Local Time: 01:13 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Goonery (original) I'll keep the GP Having just bought a GP 2 1/2 months ago I would agree. Much more fun than a New generation Cooper S. May change my mind when the final spec comes out though. Last edited by RedIan Dwarf : Sep 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 PM. Reason: Typo error

Sep 26th, 2007, 10:00 AM	#22 (permalink)
LordNemesis JCW rocks! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 11 Offline	Shizophrenic rumour mill.. I'm confuuused - (not tricky at the best of times...) is this the SAME rumour as the non-road-legal Challenger (now officially announced), or is it a factory-prod road-legal Works we're talking about...

Oct 22nd, 2007, 02:16 PM	#24 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Anymore news on this? Global Moderator

Oct 22nd, 2007, 05:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
wow MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 02:13 AM Posts: 584 Offline	MINI tests there new cars for 24 months before production. So if there is factory JCW arriving next year it should be in the middle of its testing now. MINI, it is a way of life.

Oct 24th, 2007, 05:25 PM	#28 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by the_penguin_pusher (original) right so we have established that people are paying deposits, but what actually is the car? My dealer have no info on it. Global Moderator

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Oct 17th, 2007, 08:39 AM	#23 (permalink)
the_penguin_pusher Mini Cooper :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Motherwell, Scotland Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 24 Offline	i know i have heard rumours of a 225 bhp mini cooper s called the JCW stage II. well before that i had known about mini releasing a challenge cooper s. tbh im a bit gutted they have turned out to be the same car, which is what this article seems to state. i was hoping the challenge car would be exactly that with a road legal version similar to that of a new GP works car being the JCW stage II. I had also heard that it wasnt being released until 2009 with production starting in late 2008. If anyone has any more information please post.

Oct 22nd, 2007, 06:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Some people have deposits at dealers for this car.

Oct 24th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
the_penguin_pusher Mini Cooper :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Motherwell, Scotland Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 24 Offline	right so we have established that people are paying deposits, but what actually is the car?

Oct 25th, 2007, 09:07 AM	#29 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 652 Offline	There is no 'real' info! Everything regarding it on the internet is rumour, however some dealers have taken deposits. Having said that they themselves don't seem to know anything about it! I asked my dealer as soon as I found out people had paid deposits, they said they didn't know anything at all and would not take my money. They assumed the dealers had taken the deposits to give first refusal IF any announcement was made for a new model. My guess would be Nov '08 for the JCW if it exists and they wouldn't announce it this early.

Oct 25th, 2007, 09:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
Hugo MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2006 Location: Over 4.5k RPM Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 2,961 Offline	Wonder what the price is going like? A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc.

Oct 25th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#31 (permalink)
coded2112 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bucks Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 300 Offline	Its going to have to be very good to get me out of my GP!

Oct 25th, 2007, 10:25 AM	#32 (permalink)
Washy Six cylinders two turbos Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 18,723 Offline	If the new stage one JCW is anything to go by the full fat factory version will be awesome.... 135i M sport convertible

Oct 25th, 2007, 10:51 AM	#33 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 1,070 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original) Wonder what the price is going like? A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc. Yikes 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Oct 25th, 2007, 11:24 AM	#34 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hugo (original) Wonder what the price is going like? A local dealer has a JCW stage 1 priced at £29K with Recaros, spoiler, Carbon fibre interior, etc. It proves the GP is the bargain of the century. Global Moderator

Oct 28th, 2007, 12:58 AM	#35 (permalink)
Jaydash MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 75 Offline	If a JCW car IS in the pipeline rather than the roll-caged Challenge, won't this basically be a Cooper S with all the kit added? To be honest, I would stick with speccing-up a normal S with brake and engine upgrades, because the stiffer Works suspension absolutely ruined the GP (in my opinion). It's no wonder some mags said a Golf GTI would beat a GP across country, due to the better resolved suspension. I would tend to concur to an extent, having had one and been shocked at the 'skippy' way it rode when driven hard.

Oct 28th, 2007, 09:06 AM	#36 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Owning both a GP and a GTI I would have to disagree, we on the roads in Surrey anyway. The shorter wheelbase on the GP coupled with the firmer ride makes it a much faster cross country car.

Oct 28th, 2007, 12:43 PM	#37 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	The GP's suspension is SUPERB. I owned a Works prior to purchasing a GP and the difference in the handling was huge. Global Moderator

Nov 3rd, 2007, 12:54 PM	#38 (permalink)
Jaydash MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Local Time: 12:13 AM Posts: 75 Offline	Wasn't the GP suspension absolutely idenitical to the Works suspension? The GP just had all the Works stuff fitted i.e. brakes, suspension, engine upgrade (plus a couple of extra bhp etc) I agree that the GP goes round corners like it's on rails, but it's established that longer wheelbase cars generally give a better ride. I just found that my car skipped and hopped across uneven road surfaces and was quite a handful - it's probably true that you can drive other, similarly-powerful cars quicker (maybe even 230Bhp ED30 GTIs, which is the car I was referring to...yes, I know it's much heavier). I don't think we're going to agree though, as you guys are current owners and obviously love your GPs! Fair enough.

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