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DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 12:22 PM

So I am on the list at my local dealer for a factory JCW

The saleswoman knew exactly what I was talking about, which is a first for any dealership I have spoken to about a yet unreleased car.

Expected in August/September next year but possibly earlier

kevkbuk · Sep 8th, 2007, 02:12 PM

That's ironic, my dealer knows nothing about it and can get no info from Mini. They have had other customers asking, but its just from rumours on the Internet. I'm on the list for the when they get more info but not holding my breath.

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 02:51 PM

MINI haven't said anything officially about it, only the non-road legal Works/Challenge car. Make sure that's not what you're on the list for DHA (unless that's what you're after!).

DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 03:02 PM

Well the saleswoman mentioned August/September when I asked when it could be expected. I mentioned 210bhp and that wasn't queried, I have been offered a test in the Works S demo they have but there was mention that it "wouldn't be quite as fast as the factory version". I think I am in line for what I want.

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Still could be the Works Challenge car (non road legal), it sounds like the same thing.

DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 03:43 PM

Could be I suppose but I would have expected her to mention that its not road legal.....

We have a GP and I said I wanted something similar to that. Looking at this site
MotoringFile » Archive » 2009 Factory JCW MCS: The Stage II it does seem to point towards a road going version with "stage 2" kit.

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 04:01 PM

That is not official, lots of rumours of that for a LONG time on here too. But this is official: http://www.mini2.com/2007/08/14/mini...er-s-revealed/ and http://www.mini2.com/2007/08/14/210-...g-summer-2008/

Washy · Sep 8th, 2007, 04:02 PM

I am on the list for everything....

Waiting with interest to see what happens...

DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 05:11 PM

Well I shall see..... having read various items on here (official or not who knows) and on other sites I am not worried. Also if the dealer talked about me spec-ing up my car next year I would suspect it is a road based version as I doubt there would be an options list for a challenge car!

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 05:53 PM

I would have thought it's worth a phone call to clarify with your dealer at least, that's all. Up to you of course.

CC07ERS · Sep 8th, 2007, 06:05 PM

how is the works challenge not road legal Paul

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 06:07 PM

Not sure what you'd have to do to make it legal.

DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 06:36 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable.

I think the problem with the non-legality of the race car is it might not be registered as a UK manufactured road legal car and would have to pass the SVA test like grey imports from Japan etc do.

kevkbuk · Sep 8th, 2007, 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original)

Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable.

Do you mean your getting an order form soon or when the dealer has more info???

I'm puzzled how they can talk about speccing a car that has not been announced lol. Would be interesting to see what you are able to spec, surely it will just be a standard Cooper S right now?

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 07:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original)

Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable..

No problem, I'd just hate to think someone was waiting for ages, thinking they were waiting f one car, when actually it was something else, just through some crossed wires.

DerekH · Sep 8th, 2007, 08:06 PM

Paul are you all ready for Frankfurt i know have my hotel sorted should be good, see and get plenty info for us on all this new gear you being at the press day poor me on the busy day.

Ps i think your dealer is trying to keep you happy putting you on a list that they will likely lose , i think they have crossed wires like Paul has hinted, hope that is not the case though

Paul · Sep 8th, 2007, 08:19 PM

No sorting to do, fly in, talk, snap, maybe video, fly home.... Could say it's a flying visit.

DerekH · Sep 8th, 2007, 08:38 PM

Flying visit it is right enough i have a day on Friday to have a look around and take in the non motor sights may as well when i have all day friday

DHA · Sep 8th, 2007, 09:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kevkbuk (original)

Do you mean your getting an order form soon or when the dealer has more info???

I'm puzzled how they can talk about speccing a car that has not been announced lol. Would be interesting to see what you are able to spec, surely it will just be a standard Cooper S right now?

Its a manual order as the car is not ready to spec. They did not say when spec will take place but given the year until delivery it wont be for a while yet.

kevkbuk · Sep 9th, 2007, 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original)

Its a manual order as the car is not ready to spec. They did not say when spec will take place but given the year until delivery it wont be for a while yet.

Not sure what a manual order is? Did you put a deposit down? If not I don't think you have a 'real' order as such, they probably just added you to a contact list for when/if they get further info.

Sep 8th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#1
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Who has their name down for the factory JCW? So I am on the list at my local dealer for a factory JCW The saleswoman knew exactly what I was talking about, which is a first for any dealership I have spoken to about a yet unreleased car. Expected in August/September next year but possibly earlier

Sep 8th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	MINI haven't said anything officially about it, only the non-road legal Works/Challenge car. Make sure that's not what you're on the list for DHA (unless that's what you're after!). Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 03:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Still could be the Works Challenge car (non road legal), it sounds like the same thing. Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 04:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	That is not official, lots of rumours of that for a LONG time on here too. But this is official: http://www.mini2.com/2007/08/14/mini...er-s-revealed/ and http://www.mini2.com/2007/08/14/210-...g-summer-2008/ Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 04:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Washy Six cylinders two turbos Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: in the country Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 18,723 Offline	I am on the list for everything.... Waiting with interest to see what happens... 135i M sport convertible

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Sep 8th, 2007, 02:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 652 Offline	That's ironic, my dealer knows nothing about it and can get no info from Mini. They have had other customers asking, but its just from rumours on the Internet. I'm on the list for the when they get more info but not holding my breath.

Sep 8th, 2007, 03:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Well the saleswoman mentioned August/September when I asked when it could be expected. I mentioned 210bhp and that wasn't queried, I have been offered a test in the Works S demo they have but there was mention that it "wouldn't be quite as fast as the factory version". I think I am in line for what I want.

Sep 8th, 2007, 03:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Could be I suppose but I would have expected her to mention that its not road legal..... We have a GP and I said I wanted something similar to that. Looking at this site MotoringFile » Archive » 2009 Factory JCW MCS: The Stage II it does seem to point towards a road going version with "stage 2" kit.

Sep 8th, 2007, 05:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Well I shall see..... having read various items on here (official or not who knows) and on other sites I am not worried. Also if the dealer talked about me spec-ing up my car next year I would suspect it is a road based version as I doubt there would be an options list for a challenge car!

Sep 8th, 2007, 05:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	I would have thought it's worth a phone call to clarify with your dealer at least, that's all. Up to you of course. Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 2,718 Offline	how is the works challenge not road legal Paul

Sep 8th, 2007, 06:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Not sure what you'd have to do to make it legal. Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable. I think the problem with the non-legality of the race car is it might not be registered as a UK manufactured road legal car and would have to pass the SVA test like grey imports from Japan etc do.

Sep 8th, 2007, 07:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 652 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original) Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable. Do you mean your getting an order form soon or when the dealer has more info??? I'm puzzled how they can talk about speccing a car that has not been announced lol. Would be interesting to see what you are able to spec, surely it will just be a standard Cooper S right now?

Sep 8th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original) Sorry, didn't mean to sound confrontational. Will check when they send the order form over. The choosing spec does make me feel more comfortable.. No problem, I'd just hate to think someone was waiting for ages, thinking they were waiting f one car, when actually it was something else, just through some crossed wires. Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 08:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 03:05 AM Posts: 827 Offline	Paul are you all ready for Frankfurt i know have my hotel sorted should be good, see and get plenty info for us on all this new gear you being at the press day poor me on the busy day. Ps i think your dealer is trying to keep you happy putting you on a list that they will likely lose , i think they have crossed wires like Paul has hinted, hope that is not the case though

Sep 8th, 2007, 08:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	No sorting to do, fly in, talk, snap, maybe video, fly home.... Could say it's a flying visit. Trained Monkeys

Sep 8th, 2007, 08:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 03:05 AM Posts: 827 Offline	Flying visit it is right enough i have a day on Friday to have a look around and take in the non motor sights may as well when i have all day friday

Sep 8th, 2007, 09:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
DHA Should I JCW or not? Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 160 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by kevkbuk (original) Do you mean your getting an order form soon or when the dealer has more info??? I'm puzzled how they can talk about speccing a car that has not been announced lol. Would be interesting to see what you are able to spec, surely it will just be a standard Cooper S right now? Its a manual order as the car is not ready to spec. They did not say when spec will take place but given the year until delivery it wont be for a while yet.

Sep 9th, 2007, 09:55 AM	#20 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 02:05 AM Posts: 652 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DHA (original) Its a manual order as the car is not ready to spec. They did not say when spec will take place but given the year until delivery it wont be for a while yet. Not sure what a manual order is? Did you put a deposit down? If not I don't think you have a 'real' order as such, they probably just added you to a contact list for when/if they get further info.

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