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Smurfn · Feb 24th, 2008, 08:21 AM

Looks good, would definitely be interested in the Clubman version if I was getting a new model

Washy · Feb 24th, 2008, 08:53 AM

Interesting

Streeters · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by steve11 (original)

Very impressive. Most compelling reason to get into an R56 yet.
I wonder whether the brakes will be available to purchase seperately.

I'm with Steve, it'll take a lot to get me into an R56 but that could do it

Love those wheels BTW

airbusA346 · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:08 AM

*sits there wishing he could have one, but can't*

Tara&Paul · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:09 AM

So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune.

Not much improvement for all the extra cash?

Conor · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original)

So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune.

Not much improvement for all the extra cash?

And the Aero Kit as standard, and those lovely wheels, and from the looks of the first picture in the news section it has the recardo seats too.

Souldriver · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Conor (original)

And the Aero Kit as standard, and those lovely wheels, and from the looks of the first picture in the news section it has the recardo seats too.

Are you shure about the aero kit and the recaro seats. I heard that these will be options and not standard...

Tunster · Feb 24th, 2008, 09:46 AM

If I wasn't looking into a car now and waited, I would of probably saved up for this! However, It's probably group 19/20 insurance (no good for someone at 21!) and to be honest, the costs seem to similar to what I've spec'd up with the JCW Aero Kit, Alloys etc.

I guess this is a wise move to provide a shortcut to people who want all the JCW stuff without having to spec up a Cooper S

. Good move I think from BMW!

Fin · Feb 24th, 2008, 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original)

So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune.

Not much improvement for all the extra cash?

The in gear performane hasn't yet been mentioned. It won't be known until it is test driven, but with the extra power and torque it will probably pull more eagerly right through the rev range in comparison to the MCS/MCS Stage 1 JCW. Also with the upgraded brakes, it may be a better performer on track.

I'm certainly interested to see how it goes.

Jordan210 · Feb 24th, 2008, 10:35 AM

The works clubman exhaust looks so cool

Good to see both front and back brakes are now Red

I love the realy bad photo shop whats image 4 ! the side skirts arnt evan the same colour lol !

Humph · Feb 24th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original)

So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune.

Not much improvement for all the extra cash?

Seems a little short sighted this statement, sorry. It's not all about 0-60 times, bhp, and top speed. No point having these things if the car can't handle it. Therefore this model has upgraded brakes, suspension, DTC etc. to improve the driving experience. Also as stated until we see the full tech info and curves it's difficult to make too much sense of what the difefrences will be. And they are throwing in some additional standard kit.

The car is pricey, but isn't every MINI. As quoted earlier it is still cheaper that the GP was.

What isn't clear is whether the Aero kit is included. Whether this car will have the option to spec chili pack etc. or is it a GP type standard package? If it is possible to spec the car up it will end up being a very pricey little car

.

I have also being wondering about the lifespan of the tuning kit now. Will they continue to produce it? Or will it be dropped in the same way as the Cooper works kit was when the MCS was released? Time will tell.

Paul · Feb 24th, 2008, 11:11 AM

In the press release(s) it says optional bodykit.

paa100 · Feb 24th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Oeerrrr.

I'll wait for 4WD

MINI&MERCGUY · Feb 24th, 2008, 11:45 AM

I think that the rear of the Clubman Cooper S Works looks well with the larger exhausts and stripes. Is MINI offering rear stripes as an official option on the standard Clubman at the moment? If so, does it have any plans to offer rear stripes as an optional extra on the standard R56 ONE, Cooper, Cooper D and Cooper S?

I don't think many people will pay extra to own the Works version, as visually, with the Cooper S Works bodykit, any R56 MINI can look like the real deal, so only real speed enthusiasts will want the speed to match the bodykit, and therefore will buy it!

LMB · Feb 24th, 2008, 12:40 PM

How does this differ to the current Cooper S+JCW kit?

Shamster · Feb 24th, 2008, 01:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Interesting

yes

Just wondering whether I should have a chat with Alison at Woodmans - could be a big spec for Sep 1st

Ali - you about?

Washy · Feb 24th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original)

yes

Just wondering whether I should have a chat with Alison at Woodmans - could be a big spec for Sep 1st

Ali - you about?

If I could be sure the damn thing wouldnt rattle and the dreaded engine noise was sorted i might be tempted....

Shamster · Feb 24th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

If I could be sure the damn thing wouldnt rattle and the dreaded engine noise was sorted i might be tempted....

That is a concern of mine knowing the problems you've had but then I could strike lucky and get one that's fine. Problem is going to be trying to keep the spec to a sensible level.

Would like to see exactly what will be standard and what won't be. But an extra 20 brake over the current JCW with the overboost that will be available will really make it fly. I reckon in realworld driving the current JCW R56 S would have the same difficulty keeping up with this as my JCW has keeping up with an R56 S

mini5lover · Feb 24th, 2008, 01:37 PM

Looks nice but with all those improvements is not as fast as I thought it would be, only 6.5 seconds, that is not much better than my works is it? I dont really think that it would be worth the extra money but time will tell when we see it in the flesh.

Washy · Feb 24th, 2008, 01:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original)

That is a concern of mine knowing the problems you've had but then I could strike lucky and get one that's fine. Problem is going to be trying to keep the spec to a sensible level.

Would like to see exactly what will be standard and what won't be. But an extra 20 brake over the current JCW with the overboost that will be available will really make it fly. I reckon in realworld driving the current JCW R56 S would have the same difficulty keeping up with this as my JCW has keeping up with an R56 S

It will be the in gear times that interest me too....would love to know the full spec, but I reckon £25/26k for my sort of spec.

Feb 24th, 2008, 08:21 AM	#21
Smurfn Smurfing Around Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Newcastle, NSW Local Time: 07:58 AM Posts: 43,085 Offline	Looks good, would definitely be interested in the Clubman version if I was getting a new model http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheezelsmurf/

Feb 24th, 2008, 08:53 AM	#22 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Interesting Black to the future....

Feb 24th, 2008, 09:02 AM	#23 (permalink)
Streeters ECMC Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Essex Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 353 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by steve11 (original) Very impressive. Most compelling reason to get into an R56 yet. I wonder whether the brakes will be available to purchase seperately. I'm with Steve, it'll take a lot to get me into an R56 but that could do it Love those wheels BTW JCW Sound Kit on order........

Feb 24th, 2008, 09:08 AM	#24 (permalink)
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Jordan210 Jordan The Bounty Hunter My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In your House ! Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 9,456 Offline	The works clubman exhaust looks so cool Good to see both front and back brakes are now Red I love the realy bad photo shop whats image 4 ! the side skirts arnt evan the same colour lol ! MINI2's Resident Dyslexic

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Feb 24th, 2008, 09:09 AM	#25 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 407 Offline	So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune. Not much improvement for all the extra cash?

Feb 24th, 2008, 09:38 AM	#26 (permalink)
Conor Playing the waiting game. Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 69 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original) So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune. Not much improvement for all the extra cash? And the Aero Kit as standard, and those lovely wheels, and from the looks of the first picture in the news section it has the recardo seats too.

Feb 24th, 2008, 09:46 AM	#27 (permalink)
Souldriver MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 09:58 PM Posts: 11 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Conor (original) And the Aero Kit as standard, and those lovely wheels, and from the looks of the first picture in the news section it has the recardo seats too. Are you shure about the aero kit and the recaro seats. I heard that these will be options and not standard...

Feb 24th, 2008, 09:46 AM	#28 (permalink)
Tunster MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, England Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 241 Offline	If I wasn't looking into a car now and waited, I would of probably saved up for this! However, It's probably group 19/20 insurance (no good for someone at 21!) and to be honest, the costs seem to similar to what I've spec'd up with the JCW Aero Kit, Alloys etc. I guess this is a wise move to provide a shortcut to people who want all the JCW stuff without having to spec up a Cooper S . Good move I think from BMW!

Feb 24th, 2008, 10:12 AM	#29 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cloudbase Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 2,374 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original) So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune. Not much improvement for all the extra cash? The in gear performane hasn't yet been mentioned. It won't be known until it is test driven, but with the extra power and torque it will probably pull more eagerly right through the rev range in comparison to the MCS/MCS Stage 1 JCW. Also with the upgraded brakes, it may be a better performer on track. I'm certainly interested to see how it goes.

Feb 24th, 2008, 10:44 AM	#31 (permalink)
Humph MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Wind Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 2,374 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original) So it's 0.3 of a second quicker from 0 to 60mph and 3 mph faster than an R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 tune. Not much improvement for all the extra cash? Seems a little short sighted this statement, sorry. It's not all about 0-60 times, bhp, and top speed. No point having these things if the car can't handle it. Therefore this model has upgraded brakes, suspension, DTC etc. to improve the driving experience. Also as stated until we see the full tech info and curves it's difficult to make too much sense of what the difefrences will be. And they are throwing in some additional standard kit. The car is pricey, but isn't every MINI. As quoted earlier it is still cheaper that the GP was. What isn't clear is whether the Aero kit is included. Whether this car will have the option to spec chili pack etc. or is it a GP type standard package? If it is possible to spec the car up it will end up being a very pricey little car. I have also being wondering about the lifespan of the tuning kit now. Will they continue to produce it? Or will it be dropped in the same way as the Cooper works kit was when the MCS was released? Time will tell.

Feb 24th, 2008, 11:11 AM	#32 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 46,127 Online	In the press release(s) it says optional bodykit. Trained Monkeys - New Fiat 500

Feb 24th, 2008, 11:39 AM	#33 (permalink)
paa100 MINI2 Master Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On my way to France Local Time: 12:58 AM Posts: 1,301 Offline	Oeerrrr. I'll wait for 4WD

Feb 24th, 2008, 11:45 AM	#34 (permalink)
MINI&MERCGUY MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 132 Offline	I think that the rear of the Clubman Cooper S Works looks well with the larger exhausts and stripes. Is MINI offering rear stripes as an official option on the standard Clubman at the moment? If so, does it have any plans to offer rear stripes as an optional extra on the standard R56 ONE, Cooper, Cooper D and Cooper S? I don't think many people will pay extra to own the Works version, as visually, with the Cooper S Works bodykit, any R56 MINI can look like the real deal, so only real speed enthusiasts will want the speed to match the bodykit, and therefore will buy it!

Feb 24th, 2008, 12:40 PM	#35 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 27,993 Offline	How does this differ to the current Cooper S+JCW kit? Global Moderator

Feb 24th, 2008, 01:20 PM	#36 (permalink)
Shamster The Indian Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reminiscing Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 10,775 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) Interesting yes Just wondering whether I should have a chat with Alison at Woodmans - could be a big spec for Sep 1st Ali - you about? 170508

Feb 24th, 2008, 01:25 PM	#37 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original) yes Just wondering whether I should have a chat with Alison at Woodmans - could be a big spec for Sep 1st Ali - you about? If I could be sure the damn thing wouldnt rattle and the dreaded engine noise was sorted i might be tempted.... Black to the future....

Feb 24th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#38 (permalink)
Shamster The Indian Cowboy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Reminiscing Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 10,775 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original) If I could be sure the damn thing wouldnt rattle and the dreaded engine noise was sorted i might be tempted.... That is a concern of mine knowing the problems you've had but then I could strike lucky and get one that's fine. Problem is going to be trying to keep the spec to a sensible level. Would like to see exactly what will be standard and what won't be. But an extra 20 brake over the current JCW with the overboost that will be available will really make it fly. I reckon in realworld driving the current JCW R56 S would have the same difficulty keeping up with this as my JCW has keeping up with an R56 S 170508

Feb 24th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#39 (permalink)
mini5lover MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Midlands Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 184 Offline	Looks nice but with all those improvements is not as fast as I thought it would be, only 6.5 seconds, that is not much better than my works is it? I dont really think that it would be worth the extra money but time will tell when we see it in the flesh. Mini obsessed

Feb 24th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#40 (permalink)
Washy 1151bhp/tonne Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Northampton Local Time: 10:58 PM Posts: 18,960 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Shamster (original) That is a concern of mine knowing the problems you've had but then I could strike lucky and get one that's fine. Problem is going to be trying to keep the spec to a sensible level. Would like to see exactly what will be standard and what won't be. But an extra 20 brake over the current JCW with the overboost that will be available will really make it fly. I reckon in realworld driving the current JCW R56 S would have the same difficulty keeping up with this as my JCW has keeping up with an R56 S It will be the in gear times that interest me too....would love to know the full spec, but I reckon £25/26k for my sort of spec. Black to the future....

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