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Rainbow-Walker · Feb 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM

Does anyone have any information on whether the JCW factory kit (211bhp) will be available with the Auto box ?

TIA

RBW.

MINIAC · Feb 26th, 2008, 09:18 PM

It won't be available with an automatic transmission.

adam_Randell · Feb 28th, 2008, 04:37 PM

why would you concider an auto in a JCW?!

jamesbeaumont · Feb 28th, 2008, 07:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original)

why would you concider an auto in a JCW?!

Some people prefer autos and/or dont have a manual license...

AndyP · Feb 28th, 2008, 08:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original)

why would you concider an auto in a JCW?!

Why not?

I have an R56 JCW auto and would definitely like a factory R56 JCW if they ever decide to make one.

Arnel · Apr 7th, 2008, 01:57 PM

So, is this now cast in stone? Auto will not get the JCW kit?

I love MINI, Laura · Apr 7th, 2008, 02:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original)

why would you concider an auto in a JCW?!

Why wouldn't you not have JCW on auto? Have you driven a MCS Auto? Its brilliant! And very sporty. It has the paddles that you would find in a top class sports car! Its so fun to drive and only half a second slower than the standard. Why not JCW an auto?

NeuroBeaker · Apr 7th, 2008, 02:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by I love MINI, Laura (original)

Why wouldn't you not have...

Why wouldn't you not have... um... what? Ok, let's brake it down....

Why would you have... (don't know why you would have something).

Why wouldn't you have... (don't you why you would lack something).

Why wouldn't you not have... (don't know why you would have something?).

Ouch... my head hurts.

Stiggy · Apr 7th, 2008, 02:49 PM

Has anyone here got the dealer-fit JCW mods on a MCS Auto?

I love MINI, Laura · Apr 7th, 2008, 03:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original)

Why wouldn't you not have... um... what? Ok, let's brake it down....

Why would you have... (don't know why you would have something).

Why wouldn't you have... (don't you why you would lack something).

Why wouldn't you not have... (don't know why you would have something?).

Ouch... my head hurts.

Alright smarty pants!

Why wouldn't you have a JCW on an auto?

Sorry for my double negitives! I got excited.

NeuroBeaker · Apr 7th, 2008, 03:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by I love MINI, Laura (original)

Alright smarty pants!

Why wouldn't you have a JCW on an auto?

Sorry for my double negitives! I got excited.

Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't have an auto on a JCW... or is that a JCW on an auto?

I had an auto Cooper as a loaner once, and although it was a lot of fun driving it in manual mode (using the flippers on the steering wheel) it was a little strange driving it around using the auto because it tended to hold constant revs and slip the clutch in and out to vary speed. It was bloody quick, but felt very strange. I sorta like to see an engine revving up and down as it should when speed varies. I'm not sure if the one I had was a CVT or not.... any ideas?

All the best,
Andrew.

I love MINI, Laura · Apr 7th, 2008, 04:34 PM

R56 or R50? CVT if R50. my style auto box (56 reg MCS) if a R56. (I think!)

My box and the new style MINIs have the same box much better than the CVT lots and lots of slippage with the gears. This one you can drive manually too so no jumping or skipping down when not required. Its great fun and something to be tried out. I'm thinking about getting the JCW on my auto MCS.

NeuroBeaker · Apr 7th, 2008, 04:50 PM

It was an R50 Cooper Auto (~2006 I think).

I liked the car, and had great fun with the paddles in full sport mode, but when using it in full auto mode it was very strange...

James · Apr 7th, 2008, 04:55 PM

i had a test drive in an auto mcs and bought one the next day, it might not suit everyone but I don't think i'll ever go back to a manual car, people might think of them as slower (which they are slightly to 60) but off the line it feels a lot quicker and the flappy paddles make it feel like a game driving and when you are fed up you can stick it in automatic mode and not have to think about gears (great in traffic). Im sure in manual mode it is actually quicker than a manual mcs driven by someone who is not shifting gears at the optimum point...
I've added the jcw intake on mine and will soon add a Milltek so it'll probably be faster than a manual anyway. I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical.

NeuroBeaker · Apr 7th, 2008, 05:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)

I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical.

Isn't it also more difficult to engineer a strong auto box that can take the power than it is to build a strong manual box? That might be another reason...

carboncrazy · Apr 7th, 2008, 11:30 PM

I think your right............But but they would mor ethan likely just encorporate a similar auto box from an already high powered car like the 1 Series BMW as the MINI Box is apperently designed from the 1 Series Box.

Joe

AndyP · Apr 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original)

Has anyone here got the dealer-fit JCW mods on a MCS Auto?

We have the JCW Tuning kit on our R56 Cooper S Auto and we are thinking about the kit for our R53 Cooper S Auto but can't justify the cost at the moment.

The tuning kit for our R56 is brilliant, we absolutely love it, it goes like stink.

AndyP · Apr 8th, 2008, 01:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original)

I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical.

See, I would think that there is a high demand for the factory JCW Auto, especially in America.

I for one would buy one if they make it.

NeuroBeaker · Apr 8th, 2008, 01:42 PM

Is there any difference between a Factory JCW Auto and a JCW-fitted Auto? Other than the fact that one is assembled at the factory and the other by a dealership?

James · Apr 8th, 2008, 03:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by AndyP (original)

See, I would think that there is a high demand for the factory JCW Auto, especially in America.

I for one would buy one if they make it.

Yea I suppose in America it would do better but if you search autotrader or cherished for autos theres a lot less than manual. About 5% of minis are autos in UK and of that 5% I doubt hardly any are JCW. The best car would be a GP with auto

Feb 26th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#1
Rainbow-Walker MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 182 Offline	Auto ? Does anyone have any information on whether the JCW factory kit (211bhp) will be available with the Auto box ? TIA RBW.

Feb 28th, 2008, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
adam_Randell 07' Cooper My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Droitwich Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 982 Offline	why would you concider an auto in a JCW?! ...::HBS::... Heard Before Seen adam_randell www.heardbeforeseen.com

Feb 28th, 2008, 07:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
jamesbeaumont Addicted to MINI... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 452 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original) why would you concider an auto in a JCW?! Some people prefer autos and/or dont have a manual license... Chili Red R56 Cooper

Feb 28th, 2008, 08:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
AndyP MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 141 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original) why would you concider an auto in a JCW?! Why not? I have an R56 JCW auto and would definitely like a factory R56 JCW if they ever decide to make one. R56 JCW Cooper S Auto. Laser Blue, Black Roof, R105's, Sat Nav.... the list goes on. R53 Cooper S Auto. Chilli Red, R95's. Playmini Catback Exhaust.

Apr 7th, 2008, 01:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Arnel MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2003 Location: Staten Island,NY Local Time: 01:33 AM Posts: 64 Offline	So, is this now cast in stone? Auto will not get the JCW kit? -Arnel '08 Black/Black MINI Cooper S Auto (SOLD) '03 Black/Black MINI Cooper CVT

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Feb 26th, 2008, 09:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
MINIAC MINI Profiler Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: City By The Bay Local Time: 10:33 PM Posts: 8,319 Offline	It won't be available with an automatic transmission.

Apr 7th, 2008, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 3,198 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original) why would you concider an auto in a JCW?! Why wouldn't you not have JCW on auto? Have you driven a MCS Auto? Its brilliant! And very sporty. It has the paddles that you would find in a top class sports car! Its so fun to drive and only half a second slower than the standard. Why not JCW an auto?

Apr 7th, 2008, 02:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 5,756 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by I love MINI, Laura (original) Why wouldn't you not have... Why wouldn't you not have... um... what? Ok, let's brake it down.... Why would you have... (don't know why you would have something). Why wouldn't you have... (don't you why you would lack something). Why wouldn't you not have... (don't know why you would have something?). Ouch... my head hurts. * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE).

Apr 7th, 2008, 02:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Stiggy Automatic for the People Join Date: Aug 2007 Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 376 Offline	Has anyone here got the dealer-fit JCW mods on a MCS Auto?

Apr 7th, 2008, 03:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 3,198 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ARCrawford (original) Why wouldn't you not have... um... what? Ok, let's brake it down.... Why would you have... (don't know why you would have something). Why wouldn't you have... (don't you why you would lack something). Why wouldn't you not have... (don't know why you would have something?). Ouch... my head hurts. Alright smarty pants! Why wouldn't you have a JCW on an auto? Sorry for my double negitives! I got excited.

Apr 7th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 5,756 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by I love MINI, Laura (original) Alright smarty pants! Why wouldn't you have a JCW on an auto? Sorry for my double negitives! I got excited. Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't have an auto on a JCW... or is that a JCW on an auto? I had an auto Cooper as a loaner once, and although it was a *lot* of fun driving it in manual mode (using the flippers on the steering wheel) it was a little strange driving it around using the auto because it tended to hold constant revs and slip the clutch in and out to vary speed. It was bloody quick, but felt very strange. I sorta like to see an engine revving up and down as it should when speed varies. I'm not sure if the one I had was a CVT or not.... any ideas? All the best, Andrew. * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE).

Apr 7th, 2008, 04:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 3,198 Offline	R56 or R50? CVT if R50. my style auto box (56 reg MCS) if a R56. (I think!) My box and the new style MINIs have the same box much better than the CVT lots and lots of slippage with the gears. This one you can drive manually too so no jumping or skipping down when not required. Its great fun and something to be tried out. I'm thinking about getting the JCW on my auto MCS.

Apr 7th, 2008, 04:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 5,756 Offline	It was an R50 Cooper Auto (~2006 I think). I liked the car, and had great fun with the paddles in full sport mode, but when using it in full auto mode it was very strange... * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE).

Apr 7th, 2008, 04:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
James MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 963 Offline	i had a test drive in an auto mcs and bought one the next day, it might not suit everyone but I don't think i'll ever go back to a manual car, people might think of them as slower (which they are slightly to 60) but off the line it feels a lot quicker and the flappy paddles make it feel like a game driving and when you are fed up you can stick it in automatic mode and not have to think about gears (great in traffic). Im sure in manual mode it is actually quicker than a manual mcs driven by someone who is not shifting gears at the optimum point... I've added the jcw intake on mine and will soon add a Milltek so it'll probably be faster than a manual anyway. I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical.

Apr 7th, 2008, 05:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 5,756 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original) I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical. Isn't it also more difficult to engineer a strong auto box that can take the power than it is to build a strong manual box? That might be another reason... * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE).

Apr 7th, 2008, 11:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
carboncrazy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 225 Offline	I think your right............But but they would mor ethan likely just encorporate a similar auto box from an already high powered car like the 1 Series BMW as the MINI Box is apperently designed from the 1 Series Box. Joe

Apr 8th, 2008, 01:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
AndyP MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 141 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggy (original) Has anyone here got the dealer-fit JCW mods on a MCS Auto? We have the JCW Tuning kit on our R56 Cooper S Auto and we are thinking about the kit for our R53 Cooper S Auto but can't justify the cost at the moment. The tuning kit for our R56 is brilliant, we absolutely love it, it goes like stink. R56 JCW Cooper S Auto. Laser Blue, Black Roof, R105's, Sat Nav.... the list goes on. R53 Cooper S Auto. Chilli Red, R95's. Playmini Catback Exhaust.

Apr 8th, 2008, 01:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
AndyP MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Scotland Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 141 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Crammy (original) I can see why they won't be making it an option on factory JCW cars as there is a lot less demand for automatic minis so it would not be economical. See, I would think that there is a high demand for the factory JCW Auto, especially in America. I for one would buy one if they make it. R56 JCW Cooper S Auto. Laser Blue, Black Roof, R105's, Sat Nav.... the list goes on. R53 Cooper S Auto. Chilli Red, R95's. Playmini Catback Exhaust.

Apr 8th, 2008, 01:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
NeuroBeaker Where's my navigator?! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Behind the wheel Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 5,756 Offline	Is there any difference between a Factory JCW Auto and a JCW-fitted Auto? Other than the fact that one is assembled at the factory and the other by a dealership? * * * * * NeuroBeaker Proud owner of "Zeus" (a 'slightly modified' 2004 Mini ONE).

Apr 8th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
James MINI2 Master Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 06:33 AM Posts: 963 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by AndyP (original) See, I would think that there is a high demand for the factory JCW Auto, especially in America. I for one would buy one if they make it. Yea I suppose in America it would do better but if you search autotrader or cherished for autos theres a lot less than manual. About 5% of minis are autos in UK and of that 5% I doubt hardly any are JCW. The best car would be a GP with auto

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