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Tobes · Jul 14th, 2008, 03:32 PM

Anybody know how the max torque figure compare for each version?

kevkbuk · Jul 14th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Stage 1 = 192bhp and 184lbf-ft, 199lbf-ft on overboost

Factory = 208bhp and 192lb-ft, 207lb-ft on overboost

Worth the upgrade = Nope

Tobes · Jul 14th, 2008, 04:11 PM

Thanks for the reply Kev

Not alot of difference on the torque

Do you think there will be an official stage 2 kit ever? Or will i need to go aftermarket to boost beyond stage 1

Perhaps should have gone stright down this rout rather than going for a stage 1 upgrade?

Tobes

kevkbuk · Jul 14th, 2008, 04:39 PM

Doubt there will be a stage 2 kit, but with Mini you never know. When I purchased my R56 all the dealers and news/rumour sites online said there was to be no JCW engine upgrades at all...

If I didn't own an R56 S already I'd probably buy the factory works, but given the cost to change cars I think anyone would be crazy to do it given the cost of the tuning kit. With a highflow cat you'd probably be pretty close to the factory numbers if that's what you wanted.

neilobe · Jul 14th, 2008, 04:43 PM

Agreed here, the cost of changing to the Factory JCW is just too much when you allready have a R56 S. I admit i did think about it, but have now decided to go down the aftermarket route, and there will be more developments here i think coming soon...
Plus theres every chance your S will be much more powerfull then the Factory JCW anyway

ViscountCharles · Jul 14th, 2008, 10:56 PM

They've said that the John Cooper Works brand is to be regarded as filling the same niche as the M-power brand for BMWs. You don't see BMW falling over itself to sell "M" tuning kits for the standard saloons; now there's a JCW-brand car, I think they'll stop selling the tuning kits at some point in the future.

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Tobes MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 718 Offline	Stage 1 Vs Factory JCW Torque Anybody know how the max torque figure compare for each version?

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Jul 14th, 2008, 04:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 652 Offline	Stage 1 = 192bhp and 184lbf-ft, 199lbf-ft on overboost Factory = 208bhp and 192lb-ft, 207lb-ft on overboost Worth the upgrade = Nope

Jul 14th, 2008, 04:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tobes MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 718 Offline	Thanks for the reply Kev Not alot of difference on the torque Do you think there will be an official stage 2 kit ever? Or will i need to go aftermarket to boost beyond stage 1 Perhaps should have gone stright down this rout rather than going for a stage 1 upgrade? Tobes

Jul 14th, 2008, 04:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
kevkbuk MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 652 Offline	Doubt there will be a stage 2 kit, but with Mini you never know. When I purchased my R56 all the dealers and news/rumour sites online said there was to be no JCW engine upgrades at all... If I didn't own an R56 S already I'd probably buy the factory works, but given the cost to change cars I think anyone would be crazy to do it given the cost of the tuning kit. With a highflow cat you'd probably be pretty close to the factory numbers if that's what you wanted.

Jul 14th, 2008, 04:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
neilobe MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Herts Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 489 Offline	Agreed here, the cost of changing to the Factory JCW is just too much when you allready have a R56 S. I admit i did think about it, but have now decided to go down the aftermarket route, and there will be more developments here i think coming soon... Plus theres every chance your S will be much more powerfull then the Factory JCW anyway

Jul 14th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
ViscountCharles Waiting for Works Clubman Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 01:53 AM Posts: 308 Offline	They've said that the John Cooper Works brand is to be regarded as filling the same niche as the M-power brand for BMWs. You don't see BMW falling over itself to sell "M" tuning kits for the standard saloons; now there's a JCW-brand car, I think they'll stop selling the tuning kits at some point in the future.

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