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JDinho · Jul 20th, 2006, 11:27 AM

Thanks Tony

Hopefully the works will be bodykitted & have lots of other nice gizmometry dripping of it.

Still, I'm eager to see the finished product in all its guises.

Paul · Jul 20th, 2006, 12:31 PM

From the spy shots alone we've seen different grilles and bumper trim on the Cooper/One as opposed to the S. The JCW will come from the factory with a different body kit etc. too.

mendel williams · Jul 22nd, 2006, 07:33 PM

I am sleeping a little easier as the design is similar to the present but am gutted that the clamshell bonnet has gone *** the accountants and pedestrians

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · Jul 22nd, 2006, 09:49 PM

Really, really don't approve of the move away from the curved rear windows and the stick on piece of plastic trim that's taken its place.

Really, really don't like the fattening of the car's rear that makes it look more like a last generation Clio. This is not a good thing, as even Renault worked out that there must be something very wrong with their design department and imported help for the current generation of Clio.

Really, really don't like the increased front overhang; a tiny front overhang is a very rare thing in a front wheel drive car.

Really, really don't like the near loss of the headlamps cowls in the bonnet pressing that reminded me so much of being in my mum's old Morris 1300!

AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity

Overall a fairly predictable update, in a next generation Golf / 911 sort of a way. However, it moves the style slightly further away from being uniquely MINI and slightly further towards being just like any other FWD supermini

Tigger.

baskers · Jul 24th, 2006, 07:04 PM

Just seen this thread and the pics - car looks fantastic, really does. Makes me sure the finished version will look great. Still unsure about the interior

Olly. · Jul 24th, 2006, 10:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo

Really, really don't approve of the move away from the curved rear windows and the stick on piece of plastic trim that's taken its place.

Really, really don't like the fattening of the car's rear that makes it look more like a last generation Clio. This is not a good thing, as even Renault worked out that there must be something very wrong with their design department and imported help for the current generation of Clio.

Really, really don't like the increased front overhang; a tiny front overhang is a very rare thing in a front wheel drive car.

Really, really don't like the near loss of the headlamps cowls in the bonnet pressing that reminded me so much of being in my mum's old Morris 1300!

AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity

Overall a fairly predictable update, in a next generation Golf / 911 sort of a way. However, it moves the style slightly further away from being uniquely MINI and slightly further towards being just like any other FWD supermini

Tigger.

Tigger, I think thats tape on the back windows rather than a bit of plastic.

I am also sure that they won't be the final tail lights, I agree LEDs would be an excellent idea.

I think it will look quite a bit different once we see official photos of the car.

Tonyt3 · Jul 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM

I just noticed the single, central back box on the exhaust....

Which means no battery in the boot, which means the battery returns to the engine bay on the S.....

Which means room for a space saver tyre...?> probably not...

Boo · Jul 24th, 2006, 10:58 PM

I think the new car looks like it has had changes made just for the sake of having changes made. IMHO the are ugly and i am glad because the current one rules....

Olly. · Jul 24th, 2006, 11:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3

I just noticed the single, central back box on the exhaust....

Which means no battery in the boot, which means the battery returns to the engine bay on the S.....

Which means room for a space saver tyre...?> probably not...

Good spot.

I assume that this means switching to an aftermarket exhaust would be cheaper

Baker · Jul 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM

Or that its mounted in a cubby on the side, making for good weight distrobution against the driver.

Rakey · Jul 25th, 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo

AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity

The edges of the lights are still covered, could still be a chance that this is hiding LED's round the edges.

Also not the rear section of the rear side windows is still disguised, is this is hide opening rear quarters, high level lights, or some new cheaper way to manufacture the glass and finish it?

Still lots of things to be revealed, so don't discount things just yet as not present, as not all options were available for launch last time either

Hat · Jul 25th, 2006, 08:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

Also not the rear section of the rear side windows is still disguised, is this is hide opening rear quarters, high level lights, or some new cheaper way to manufacture the glass and finish it?

i've been wondering whether the rear quarter masking is hiding opening rear widows - another link to the past?

Rakey · Jul 25th, 2006, 09:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hat

i've been wondering whether the rear quarter masking is hiding opening rear widows - another link to the past?

would be great if they did, was always good in summer to allow a nice flow of air through the car

Tonyt3 · Jul 25th, 2006, 09:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey

would be great if they did, was always good in summer to allow a nice flow of air through the car

It would be good, its just about the only part of the current car that I dont like - rear seat passengers get no windows, and no air vents from the aircon. Thats a very poor design. My daughter often got fed up of being in the back with no fresh air.

However, its my understanding that there will be no rear opening windows of any kind....

Martin F · Jul 25th, 2006, 10:09 AM

But my dealer told me the bonnet air scoop would also disappear for pedestrian safety reasons. It is also probably less necessary with a turbo. Anyone else heard this?

Olly. · Jul 25th, 2006, 10:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Martin F

But my dealer told me the bonnet air scoop would also disappear for pedestrian safety reasons. It is also probably less necessary with a turbo. Anyone else heard this?

The scoop is staying as far as I am aware.

There was talk of it disappearing, but luckily it seems to have survived

Tonyt3 · Jul 25th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale

The scoop is staying as far as I am aware.

There was talk of it disappearing, but luckily it seems to have survived

Yes, bit odd, as the photographs released of the turbo engine shows it doesnt have an intercooler....

Richard Crofts · Jul 25th, 2006, 11:59 AM

Ahhh...an option for extra power with a bolt on mod there then

Lets hope the bonnet will allow room to wedge something under there or that someone makes a replacement with an air ram/duct on it.

Rakey · Jul 25th, 2006, 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts

Ahhh...an option for extra power with a bolt on mod there then

Lets hope the bonnet will allow room to wedge something under there or that someone makes a replacement with an air ram/duct on it.

or more probable that its purely cosmetic as there are a lot MCS owners that now associate the scoop with the S, and want a difference in look from the cooper model

ONED · Jul 25th, 2006, 12:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3

Yes, bit odd, as the photographs released of the turbo engine shows it doesnt have an intercooler....

Where is the Photo?

There are no modern engine manufactures building Turbo engines without Intercoolers that I'm aware off !
It doesnt have to sit on top of the engine!.....it can be in behind the bumper, as with the diesel model.

Jul 20th, 2006, 12:31 PM	#42 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	From the spy shots alone we've seen different grilles and bumper trim on the Cooper/One as opposed to the S. The JCW will come from the factory with a different body kit etc. too. Trained Monkeys

Jul 22nd, 2006, 09:49 PM	#44 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Really, really don't approve of the move away from the curved rear windows and the stick on piece of plastic trim that's taken its place. Really, really don't like the fattening of the car's rear that makes it look more like a last generation Clio. This is not a good thing, as even Renault worked out that there must be something very wrong with their design department and imported help for the current generation of Clio. Really, really don't like the increased front overhang; a tiny front overhang is a very rare thing in a front wheel drive car. Really, really don't like the near loss of the headlamps cowls in the bonnet pressing that reminded me so much of being in my mum's old Morris 1300! AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity Overall a fairly predictable update, in a next generation Golf / 911 sort of a way. However, it moves the style slightly further away from being uniquely MINI and slightly further towards being just like any other FWD supermini Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

Jul 24th, 2006, 10:58 PM	#48 (permalink)
Boo Sponsor and Widget Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nth Beaches, Sydney Local Time: 02:54 PM Posts: 1,735 Offline	I think the new car looks like it has had changes made just for the sake of having changes made. IMHO the are ugly and i am glad because the current one rules.... The original SWORKS

Jul 25th, 2006, 12:42 AM	#51 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity The edges of the lights are still covered, could still be a chance that this is hiding LED's round the edges. Also not the rear section of the rear side windows is still disguised, is this is hide opening rear quarters, high level lights, or some new cheaper way to manufacture the glass and finish it? Still lots of things to be revealed, so don't discount things just yet as not present, as not all options were available for launch last time either The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Jul 25th, 2006, 09:23 AM	#53 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hat i've been wondering whether the rear quarter masking is hiding opening rear widows - another link to the past? would be great if they did, was always good in summer to allow a nice flow of air through the car The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

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Jul 20th, 2006, 11:27 AM	#41
JDinho JCWaiting! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: W Sussex Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 266 Offline	Thanks Tony Hopefully the works will be bodykitted & have lots of other nice gizmometry dripping of it. Still, I'm eager to see the finished product in all its guises.

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Jul 22nd, 2006, 07:33 PM	#43 (permalink)
mendel williams MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: St Helens , UK Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 676 Offline	I am sleeping a little easier as the design is similar to the present but am gutted that the clamshell bonnet has gone *** the accountants and pedestrians

Jul 24th, 2006, 07:04 PM	#45 (permalink)
baskers MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2005 Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 909 Offline	Just seen this thread and the pics - car looks fantastic, really does. Makes me sure the finished version will look great. Still unsure about the interior

Jul 24th, 2006, 10:50 PM	#46 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo Really, really don't approve of the move away from the curved rear windows and the stick on piece of plastic trim that's taken its place. Really, really don't like the fattening of the car's rear that makes it look more like a last generation Clio. This is not a good thing, as even Renault worked out that there must be something very wrong with their design department and imported help for the current generation of Clio. Really, really don't like the increased front overhang; a tiny front overhang is a very rare thing in a front wheel drive car. Really, really don't like the near loss of the headlamps cowls in the bonnet pressing that reminded me so much of being in my mum's old Morris 1300! AND they STILL haven't fitted LED tail lights. What a wasted opportunity Overall a fairly predictable update, in a next generation Golf / 911 sort of a way. However, it moves the style slightly further away from being uniquely MINI and slightly further towards being just like any other FWD supermini Tigger. Tigger, I think thats tape on the back windows rather than a bit of plastic. I am also sure that they won't be the final tail lights, I agree LEDs would be an excellent idea. I think it will look quite a bit different once we see official photos of the car.

Jul 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM	#47 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 6,010 Offline	I just noticed the single, central back box on the exhaust.... Which means no battery in the boot, which means the battery returns to the engine bay on the S..... Which means room for a space saver tyre...?> probably not...

Jul 24th, 2006, 11:00 PM	#49 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 I just noticed the single, central back box on the exhaust.... Which means no battery in the boot, which means the battery returns to the engine bay on the S..... Which means room for a space saver tyre...?> probably not... Good spot. I assume that this means switching to an aftermarket exhaust would be cheaper

Jul 24th, 2006, 11:06 PM	#50 (permalink)
Baker Being normal is not fun! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Newcastle, Australia Local Time: 02:54 PM Posts: 4,115 Offline	Or that its mounted in a cubby on the side, making for good weight distrobution against the driver.

Jul 25th, 2006, 08:09 AM	#52 (permalink)
Hat ITS RAINNIN' SIDEWAYS My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2002 Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 15,971 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey Also not the rear section of the rear side windows is still disguised, is this is hide opening rear quarters, high level lights, or some new cheaper way to manufacture the glass and finish it? i've been wondering whether the rear quarter masking is hiding opening rear widows - another link to the past?

Jul 25th, 2006, 09:53 AM	#54 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 6,010 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey would be great if they did, was always good in summer to allow a nice flow of air through the car It would be good, its just about the only part of the current car that I dont like - rear seat passengers get no windows, and no air vents from the aircon. Thats a very poor design. My daughter often got fed up of being in the back with no fresh air. However, its my understanding that there will be no rear opening windows of any kind....

Jul 25th, 2006, 10:09 AM	#55 (permalink)
Martin F Making it add up Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 651 Offline	But my dealer told me the bonnet air scoop would also disappear for pedestrian safety reasons. It is also probably less necessary with a turbo. Anyone else heard this?

Jul 25th, 2006, 10:17 AM	#56 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:54 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Martin F But my dealer told me the bonnet air scoop would also disappear for pedestrian safety reasons. It is also probably less necessary with a turbo. Anyone else heard this? The scoop is staying as far as I am aware. There was talk of it disappearing, but luckily it seems to have survived

Jul 25th, 2006, 11:46 AM	#57 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 6,010 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ollymale The scoop is staying as far as I am aware. There was talk of it disappearing, but luckily it seems to have survived Yes, bit odd, as the photographs released of the turbo engine shows it doesnt have an intercooler....

Jul 25th, 2006, 11:59 AM	#58 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 3,363 Offline	Ahhh...an option for extra power with a bolt on mod there then Lets hope the bonnet will allow room to wedge something under there or that someone makes a replacement with an air ram/duct on it.

Jul 25th, 2006, 12:18 PM	#59 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts Ahhh...an option for extra power with a bolt on mod there then Lets hope the bonnet will allow room to wedge something under there or that someone makes a replacement with an air ram/duct on it. or more probable that its purely cosmetic as there are a lot MCS owners that now associate the scoop with the S, and want a difference in look from the cooper model The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Jul 25th, 2006, 12:30 PM	#60 (permalink)
ONED SUCKIN DIESEL!!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shopping at Lidl Local Time: 04:54 AM Posts: 7,529 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 Yes, bit odd, as the photographs released of the turbo engine shows it doesnt have an intercooler.... Where is the Photo? There are no modern engine manufactures building Turbo engines without Intercoolers that I'm aware off ! It doesnt have to sit on top of the engine!.....it can be in behind the bumper, as with the diesel model.

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