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Paul · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:27 AM

These are from more than one S, the one with additional wires etc. is the test car seen a lot recently on "the ring" in Germany.

Click images for larger versions.

Technical images of the engine:

Looks like it might be a chore to change a light bulb!

Tonyt3 · Jul 27th, 2006, 09:44 AM

Hmm, good phots. They certainly seem to show that theres enough clearance above the engine to place an intercooler, however, the rest of the engine bay looks so full, I dont think there would be room for accociated pipe work etc....

So, to all thoses thinking the scoop is going to be utilised by the JCW car, I have to say, I very, very much doubt it......, especially with the soft 'head protecting' pedestrian impact crash laws.....

cleverzippy · Jul 27th, 2006, 12:23 PM

But doesn't the new car have a front mount intercooler or are you thinking about using two?

ananiou · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3

So, to all thoses thinking the scoop is going to be utilised by the JCW car, I have to say, I very, very much doubt it......, especially with the soft 'head protecting' pedestrian impact crash laws.....

MINI should have considered utilizing the fake scoop as a CAI ( the fake scoop can be a nice chance for a true CAI, imagine the air diverted directly to the filter. After marker vendors will party with this prospect, for sure) so that they wouldn't have to admit that they've kept it for cosmetic reasons only and we would have saved the embarrassment also.
True that JCW may also drop the idea, time will tell. I think that they will be far easier for them now to "produce" hp gains. The ecu tuning will be far more effective in terms of power increase.

ps Paul, thanks again for the pics

R1 · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:31 PM

The new one just looks and sounds a bit "ordinary car" to me!

Mini Princess · Jul 27th, 2006, 08:49 PM

Really don't know what to say. With the bonnet down and the bonnet up it just doesn't look very nice. The words 'Toy Car' spring to mind.

S33BBY · Aug 1st, 2006, 08:20 PM

I wonder if that engine hasn't been "decorated" yet. I think they'll spruce it up a bit with some covers and so on.

The look aside, there's no denying that this is a much more modern engine.

Humourl3ss · Aug 2nd, 2006, 10:11 AM

Nice that they moved the coolant tank up front so that we might more easily see when (not if) it ruptures.

Blusox · Aug 4th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Won't the scoop be blowing straight onto the turbo charger? That way you could say its not just cosmetic! lol

LMB · Aug 4th, 2006, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by R1

The new one just looks and sounds a bit "ordinary car" to me!

Very bland.

Tonyt3 · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:07 PM

the back of my new fridge looks more interesting than that engine bay....

Paul · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:16 PM

And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment!

LMB · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment!

Not really....but the Mini was unique. It was akin to a Supercar how it opened.

S33BBY · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:31 PM

I still don't think that's how it will look when finalised. It hasn't got any logos or anything in that picture. I would like to think that they'll dress it up a little, but even if they don't, it doesn't really matter, although I can see why it would to some.

Paul · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:37 PM

That is basically it, apart from MINI badging of course. Couldn't put those on the prototype in case someone photographed it and people knew what it was. (

)

LMB · Aug 4th, 2006, 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

That is basically it, apart from MINI badging of course. Couldn't put those on the prototype in case someone photographed it and people knew what it was. (

)

I loved the bit of tape covering the badge on the steering wheel......I mean.......come on.

St00ge · Aug 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM

turbo and associated piping looks very easy to work on. Might lessen JCW prices (unlikely

), but will make it easy for aftermarket mods...

mGP · Aug 4th, 2006, 11:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB

Very bland.

When you look under the bonet of the current s/s works there's just something about it that sets it apart from other cars in it's class; It looks special, tidy and purposeful, and every part is pronouced, Supercharger, Air filter, Silver engine mount etc, whereas the new car just looks like a mass of black plastic crammed into place; as about as intersting as the guttering on the back of my house, or indeed tony's fridge

obehave · Aug 5th, 2006, 03:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by S33BBY

I still don't think that's how it will look when finalised. It hasn't got any logos or anything in that picture. I would like to think that they'll dress it up a little, but even if they don't, it doesn't really matter, although I can see why it would to some.

Yea, logos and badges will help

Real BIG ones.

Humourl3ss · Aug 5th, 2006, 12:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett

And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment!

Amen. Unless one has an Alfa with those gorgeous polished bits or a high-end exotic, all engine bays look like... well... engine bays.

Jul 27th, 2006, 09:27 AM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Engine bay photographs as requested. These are from more than one S, the one with additional wires etc. is the test car seen a lot recently on "the ring" in Germany. Click images for larger versions. Technical images of the engine: Looks like it might be a chore to change a light bulb!

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
R1 Addicted to Speed!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..."B" roads!! Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 4,915 Offline	The new one just looks and sounds a bit "ordinary car" to me! Attached Thumbnails

Aug 2nd, 2006, 10:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Humourl3ss Now With More Cowbell Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada City Local Time: 02:14 PM Posts: 1,767 Offline	Nice that they moved the coolant tank up front so that we might more easily see when (not if) it ruptures. Global Moderator

Aug 4th, 2006, 01:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 24,871 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by R1 The new one just looks and sounds a bit "ordinary car" to me! Very bland. Global Moderator

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LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 24,871 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment! Not really....but the Mini was unique. It was akin to a Supercar how it opened. Global Moderator

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Jul 27th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 6,257 Offline	Hmm, good phots. They certainly seem to show that theres enough clearance above the engine to place an intercooler, however, the rest of the engine bay looks so full, I dont think there would be room for accociated pipe work etc.... So, to all thoses thinking the scoop is going to be utilised by the JCW car, I have to say, I very, very much doubt it......, especially with the soft 'head protecting' pedestrian impact crash laws.....

Jul 27th, 2006, 12:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
cleverzippy MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kettering, Northants Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 185 Offline	But doesn't the new car have a front mount intercooler or are you thinking about using two?

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
ananiou MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: kozani Local Time: 09:14 PM Posts: 136 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tonyt3 So, to all thoses thinking the scoop is going to be utilised by the JCW car, I have to say, I very, very much doubt it......, especially with the soft 'head protecting' pedestrian impact crash laws..... MINI should have considered utilizing the fake scoop as a CAI ( the fake scoop can be a nice chance for a true CAI, imagine the air diverted directly to the filter. After marker vendors will party with this prospect, for sure) so that they wouldn't have to admit that they've kept it for cosmetic reasons only and we would have saved the embarrassment also. True that JCW may also drop the idea, time will tell. I think that they will be far easier for them now to "produce" hp gains. The ecu tuning will be far more effective in terms of power increase. ps Paul, thanks again for the pics

Jul 27th, 2006, 08:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mini Princess MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In the boutique Local Time: 06:14 PM Posts: 1,063 Offline	Really don't know what to say. With the bonnet down and the bonnet up it just doesn't look very nice. The words 'Toy Car' spring to mind.

Aug 1st, 2006, 08:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 3,123 Offline	I wonder if that engine hasn't been "decorated" yet. I think they'll spruce it up a bit with some covers and so on. The look aside, there's no denying that this is a much more modern engine.

Aug 4th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Blusox MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2002 Location: South East Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 279 Offline	Won't the scoop be blowing straight onto the turbo charger? That way you could say its not just cosmetic! lol

Aug 4th, 2006, 02:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tonyt3 Track addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hants Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 6,257 Offline	the back of my new fridge looks more interesting than that engine bay....

Aug 4th, 2006, 02:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment!

Aug 4th, 2006, 02:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
S33BBY MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 3,123 Offline	I still don't think that's how it will look when finalised. It hasn't got any logos or anything in that picture. I would like to think that they'll dress it up a little, but even if they don't, it doesn't really matter, although I can see why it would to some. JCW Sound Kit \| H/K \| Sat Nav \| SS+ \| Xenons \| 17" Anthracite R90s \| Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3s \| ...

Aug 4th, 2006, 02:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	That is basically it, apart from MINI badging of course. Couldn't put those on the prototype in case someone photographed it and people knew what it was. ()

Aug 4th, 2006, 02:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 24,871 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett That is basically it, apart from MINI badging of course. Couldn't put those on the prototype in case someone photographed it and people knew what it was. () I loved the bit of tape covering the badge on the steering wheel......I mean.......come on. Global Moderator

Aug 4th, 2006, 03:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
St00ge 8/10 on the Stoogometer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Melbourne Local Time: 04:14 AM Posts: 2,864 Offline	turbo and associated piping looks very easy to work on. Might lessen JCW prices (unlikely ), but will make it easy for aftermarket mods... Black MCS

Aug 4th, 2006, 11:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
mGP ~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Local Time: 07:14 PM Posts: 957 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LMB Very bland. When you look under the bonet of the current s/s works there's just something about it that sets it apart from other cars in it's class; It looks special, tidy and purposeful, and every part is pronouced, Supercharger, Air filter, Silver engine mount etc, whereas the new car just looks like a mass of black plastic crammed into place; as about as intersting as the guttering on the back of my house, or indeed tony's fridge

Aug 5th, 2006, 03:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
obehave Mini Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 02:14 PM Posts: 9,388 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by S33BBY I still don't think that's how it will look when finalised. It hasn't got any logos or anything in that picture. I would like to think that they'll dress it up a little, but even if they don't, it doesn't really matter, although I can see why it would to some. Yea, logos and badges will help Real BIG ones.

Aug 5th, 2006, 12:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
Humourl3ss Now With More Cowbell Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada City Local Time: 02:14 PM Posts: 1,767 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett And it matters how the engine bay looks? I guess to some. My S looks like a giant fly trap when I lift the bonnet at the moment! Amen. Unless one has an Alfa with those gorgeous polished bits or a high-end exotic, all engine bays look like... well... engine bays. Global Moderator

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