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Paul · Oct 26th, 2006, 05:20 PM

Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button.

It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S.

The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect.

Rakey · Oct 26th, 2006, 06:16 PM

ah, brilliant, kind of answers my post in the other thread

Did the selection of Sports mode also make the engine/exhaust note sound more aggresive?

LMB · Oct 26th, 2006, 06:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button.

It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S.

The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect.

The car is getting rave reviews, so it looks like yet again BMW have got it spot on.

s_and_m · Oct 26th, 2006, 06:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LMB (original)

The car is getting rave reviews, so it looks like yet again BMW have got it spot on.

I've read most of the UK press reviews now and whilst they all say things like the car is 'more complete', 'more rounded', '30% better in every way', 'more grown up', 'more refined' and of course slightly bigger, I did catch an undertone of people saying the current S is more engaging in terms of feed back and being 'connected to the road'.

All in all, I can't wait to drive the new car and see if it is worth me even thinking about walking away from my heavily modded S, but I guess I'd like to see what the Works version is like first. (Paul if you ever need a stand-in to do some of those ho-hum, run of the mill press launches, just let me know

I ahte to think of you sacrificing so much of your time on our behalf!))

As to if BMW have got it spot on, we'll you can't please all the people all the time, but they seem to have got pretty d@mn close!

S

Olly. · Oct 26th, 2006, 06:54 PM

Excellent, I think i'll have to blue tac it down

I love MINI, Laura · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:04 PM

So looking forward to test driving one of these babies! Good news!

ttocs · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:06 PM

Can't wait to try it!!!

wigman15 · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:11 PM

forgive my ignorance but is this standard or an extra? if it's an extra, how much is it?

AidenL · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:16 PM

Its all good news

CC07ERS · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:29 PM

it wouldnt have been much of a cooper @ £14000

Paul · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wigman15 (original)

forgive my ignorance but is this standard or an extra? if it's an extra, how much is it?

For the S in the UK it's standard, but in most markets it is an option.

wigman15 · Oct 26th, 2006, 08:46 PM

thanks paul, that made my day!

grand_cru · Oct 26th, 2006, 09:14 PM

Hope the button is standard in Belgium as well

.

Thanks for the review and information Paul

ned78 · Oct 26th, 2006, 09:34 PM

It's also standard in the Irish Market Paul, but as we piggy back onto the UK spec with a few differences, that's not suprising. We didn't get the opportunity to drive an S with a sport button in Rome, but we did drive both a Laser Blue S with Chilli and Panoramic Glass Roof, and a Chili Cooper with Pepper. Some of the new technology demonstrated to us was incredibly impressive, and the new safety features make me want to have one now :-) Roll on the R56 launch!

Rakey · Oct 26th, 2006, 09:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ned78 (original)

Roll on the R56 launch!

Its not been launched and already your planning on............

Deutsch · Oct 27th, 2006, 02:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button.

It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S.

The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect.

All of this means you drove the AT. How were the paddle shifts? How does this AT in the Mini compare to the previous version???

fjork_duf · Oct 27th, 2006, 05:18 AM

Any word on sport button for the USA? I would assume it would be standard on the cooper S.

appmacguy · Oct 27th, 2006, 07:57 AM

Well how did the Cooper drive Paul? You said "I was mostly interested in the Cooper" but then say very little about it. Any chance of a review of how it was if you did get to drive it.

Was it the Silver Cooper with Pepper Pack and if it had the Chav lighting what did you think?

ps_minics · Oct 27th, 2006, 08:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by appmacguy (original)

Well how did the Cooper drive Paul? You said "I was mostly interested in the Cooper" but then say very little about it. Any chance of a review of how it was if you did get to drive it.

Was it the Silver Cooper with Pepper Pack and if it had the Chav lighting what did you think?

See here........

http://www.mini2.com/article403-mini...ni-cooper.html

Paul · Oct 27th, 2006, 08:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Deutsch (original)

All of this means you drove the AT. How were the paddle shifts? How does this AT in the Mini compare to the previous version???

No automatics there at all. Again.

Oct 26th, 2006, 05:20 PM	#1
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Finally had a play with a Cooper S with the Sport Button.... Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button. It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S. The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect. Trained Monkeys

Oct 26th, 2006, 06:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	ah, brilliant, kind of answers my post in the other thread Did the selection of Sports mode also make the engine/exhaust note sound more aggresive? The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Oct 26th, 2006, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
LMB Toon Toon.. <div><a href= Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Up North Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 23,749 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button. It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S. The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect. The car is getting rave reviews, so it looks like yet again BMW have got it spot on. Global Moderator

Oct 26th, 2006, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
s_and_m 220 of your finest horses Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 6800 rpm Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 3,015 Offline	hmmmm Quote: Originally Posted by LMB (original) The car is getting rave reviews, so it looks like yet again BMW have got it spot on. I've read most of the UK press reviews now and whilst they all say things like the car is 'more complete', 'more rounded', '30% better in every way', 'more grown up', 'more refined' and of course slightly bigger, I did catch an undertone of people saying the current S is more engaging in terms of feed back and being 'connected to the road'. All in all, I can't wait to drive the new car and see if it is worth me even thinking about walking away from my heavily modded S, but I guess I'd like to see what the Works version is like first. (Paul if you ever need a stand-in to do some of those ho-hum, run of the mill press launches, just let me know I ahte to think of you sacrificing so much of your time on our behalf!)) As to if BMW have got it spot on, we'll you can't please all the people all the time, but they seem to have got pretty d@mn close! S

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
AidenL Nice TTs......... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: On The Coast........ Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 40,989 Offline	Its all good news *Global Moderator*

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Oct 26th, 2006, 06:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Excellent, I think i'll have to blue tac it down

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 3,439 Offline	So looking forward to test driving one of these babies! Good news!

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 3,677 Offline	Can't wait to try it!!!

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
wigman15 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 101 Offline	forgive my ignorance but is this standard or an extra? if it's an extra, how much is it?

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 2,718 Offline	it wouldnt have been much of a cooper @ £14000

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by wigman15 (original) forgive my ignorance but is this standard or an extra? if it's an extra, how much is it? For the S in the UK it's standard, but in most markets it is an option. Trained Monkeys

Oct 26th, 2006, 08:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
wigman15 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Local Time: 03:55 AM Posts: 101 Offline	thanks paul, that made my day!

Oct 26th, 2006, 09:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
grand_cru In Flanders fields ... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roeselare - Belgium Local Time: 04:55 AM Posts: 300 Offline	Hope the button is standard in Belgium as well . Thanks for the review and information Paul

Oct 26th, 2006, 09:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
ned78 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cork, Ireland Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 289 Offline	It's also standard in the Irish Market Paul, but as we piggy back onto the UK spec with a few differences, that's not suprising. We didn't get the opportunity to drive an S with a sport button in Rome, but we did drive both a Laser Blue S with Chilli and Panoramic Glass Roof, and a Chili Cooper with Pepper. Some of the new technology demonstrated to us was incredibly impressive, and the new safety features make me want to have one now :-) Roll on the R56 launch! MINI Club of Ireland - Modern MINI Magazine's UK and Ireland Club of the Year 2007

Oct 26th, 2006, 09:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ned78 (original) Roll on the R56 launch! Its not been launched and already your planning on............ The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Oct 27th, 2006, 02:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Deutsch MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 06:55 PM Posts: 67 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) Went on the UK launch event for the MINI Cooper and Cooper S this week, I was mostly interested in the Cooper, having spent so much time and given so much coverage to the Cooper S, but this time the Cooper S had the Sport button. It's good. The change it makes, in throttle response in particular, is pretty surprising. At high speeds the heavier steering is also no ticable, but the main thing was the difference it makes to the accelerator behaviour. Very good. Thing this will be a "press every time I get in" button on my own S. The Cooper S was about £20k worth (the Cooper was £14k worth, BIG difference!), but the best bit was finally getting to use the Sport Button. Overall once again I was very impressed with the S, the engine was brilliant (again), and once again everyone at the event seemed genuinely impressed with the car, in every respect. All of this means you drove the AT. How were the paddle shifts? How does this AT in the Mini compare to the previous version???

Oct 27th, 2006, 05:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
fjork_duf MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 37 Offline	Any word on sport button for the USA? I would assume it would be standard on the cooper S.

Oct 27th, 2006, 07:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
appmacguy MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Leicester Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 235 Offline	Well how did the Cooper drive Paul? You said "I was mostly interested in the Cooper" but then say very little about it. Any chance of a review of how it was if you did get to drive it. Was it the Silver Cooper with Pepper Pack and if it had the Chav lighting what did you think? 57 Mini Cooper, Astro Black.

Oct 27th, 2006, 08:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
ps_minics MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 49 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by appmacguy (original) Well how did the Cooper drive Paul? You said "I was mostly interested in the Cooper" but then say very little about it. Any chance of a review of how it was if you did get to drive it. Was it the Silver Cooper with Pepper Pack and if it had the Chav lighting what did you think? See here........ http://www.mini2.com/article403-mini...ni-cooper.html

Oct 27th, 2006, 08:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 02:55 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Deutsch (original) All of this means you drove the AT. How were the paddle shifts? How does this AT in the Mini compare to the previous version??? No automatics there at all. Again. Trained Monkeys

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