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Dazmac13 · Jan 15th, 2007, 01:59 AM

Mini advertise the Auto MCS to be only 0.2 seconds slower to 62mph than the manual, but they advertise the cooper auto to be 1.3 seconds slower to 62 than the manual. Surely that can't be right, i thought they both use the same auto gearbox??? pretty happy if the auto S is only 0.2 sec slower as i am awaiting mine

Scrogg · Jan 15th, 2007, 02:04 AM

Haven't you already asked this question?

Obviously it is right, otherwise they wouldn't have published the figures. These figures are an improvement on the 1st Generation, where the differences between Manual and Automatic were 1.3 seconds for the Cooper and 0.5 seconds for the Cooper S

Ken Cooper · Jan 15th, 2007, 03:01 AM

Thanks for asking that question Dazmac13. Knowing the different times between the R53 manual and auto puts the differences between the R56 manual and auto into perspective. And thank you Scrogg for your answer. Now I know more than I did.

Olly. · Jan 15th, 2007, 11:38 AM

Must be down to the gearing? Maybe the MCS Auto can hit 62 in second where as the Cooper has to change to third?

popey · Jan 15th, 2007, 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Olly. (original)

Must be down to the gearing? Maybe the MCS Auto can hit 62 in second where as the Cooper has to change to third?

Its down to the power of the engine I would of thought.

inomis · Jan 15th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Could it be that the gearing the in both Auto's is the same when the Cooper needs more gearing advantage like it has in it's manual?

Mikiew · Jan 15th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Dazmac,

Can't be bothered trawling the posts, but when are you due to get yours? Would be interested in a decent review once you do.

Cheers.

rainbowdreamer · Jan 15th, 2007, 10:41 PM

And in the real world, unless the manual driver does a Grand Prix start and doesn't fluff the gear change to second, the auto could actually be quicker to 60mph in the MCS.

Dazmac13 · Jan 16th, 2007, 12:01 AM

It will be one of the 1st autos on the road as have had my deposit down for 18 months, due mid august. as soon as i get it i'll post a quick review of the auto for all those interested. Cant wait!!

Scrogg · Jan 16th, 2007, 12:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dazmac13 (original)

It will be one of the 1st autos on the road...

...due mid august.

August!???

Why so far away?

Dazmac13 · Jan 16th, 2007, 12:23 AM

Woops, mid march i meant.

i hope i haven't just tempted fate

Mikiew · Jan 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dazmac13 (original)

Woops, mid march i meant.

i hope i haven't just tempted fate

Cheers, looking forward to the review.

Where did August come from????

Robert Stancliff · Jan 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM

In general, the lower the power, the bigger the peformance difference. Some very low powered economy cars used to only be available with a manual gearbox because an automatic dropped their performace to an unacceptable level.

susmaloi · Jan 20th, 2007, 08:10 AM

Have any automatic Coopers been delivered yet? Any road tests in UK or anywhere?

Jan 15th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#1
Dazmac13 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 274 Offline	Wierd Auto 0-60mph performance figures?!?!? Mini advertise the Auto MCS to be only 0.2 seconds slower to 62mph than the manual, but they advertise the cooper auto to be 1.3 seconds slower to 62 than the manual. Surely that can't be right, i thought they both use the same auto gearbox??? pretty happy if the auto S is only 0.2 sec slower as i am awaiting mine

Jan 15th, 2007, 02:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Scrogg Open Door..Step Out..Easy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:11 AM Posts: 16,811 Offline	Haven't you already asked this question? Obviously it is right, otherwise they wouldn't have published the figures. These figures are an improvement on the 1st Generation, where the differences between Manual and Automatic were 1.3 seconds for the Cooper and 0.5 seconds for the Cooper S 27

Jan 15th, 2007, 10:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mikiew MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 22 Offline	Dazmac, Can't be bothered trawling the posts, but when are you due to get yours? Would be interested in a decent review once you do. Cheers. Mike. Z4 3.0 (R56 JCW on order though!)

Jan 15th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
rainbowdreamer MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 03:11 AM Posts: 268 Offline	And in the real world, unless the manual driver does a Grand Prix start and doesn't fluff the gear change to second, the auto could actually be quicker to 60mph in the MCS. Rainbow Dreamer 2005 Cooper S Convertible

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Scrogg Open Door..Step Out..Easy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 03:11 AM Posts: 16,811 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Dazmac13 (original) It will be one of the 1st autos on the road... ...due mid august. August!??? Why so far away? 27

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Jan 15th, 2007, 03:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ken Cooper MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 42 Offline	Thanks for asking that question Dazmac13. Knowing the different times between the R53 manual and auto puts the differences between the R56 manual and auto into perspective. And thank you Scrogg for your answer. Now I know more than I did.

Jan 15th, 2007, 11:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 3,458 Offline	Must be down to the gearing? Maybe the MCS Auto can hit 62 in second where as the Cooper has to change to third?

Jan 15th, 2007, 11:52 AM	#5 (permalink)
popey Wanted an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 03:11 AM Posts: 1,788 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Olly. (original) Must be down to the gearing? Maybe the MCS Auto can hit 62 in second where as the Cooper has to change to third? Its down to the power of the engine I would of thought.

Jan 15th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
inomis MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Local Time: 10:11 PM Posts: 33 Offline	Could it be that the gearing the in both Auto's is the same when the Cooper needs more gearing advantage like it has in it's manual?

Jan 16th, 2007, 12:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dazmac13 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 274 Offline	It will be one of the 1st autos on the road as have had my deposit down for 18 months, due mid august. as soon as i get it i'll post a quick review of the auto for all those interested. Cant wait!!

Jan 16th, 2007, 12:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dazmac13 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 274 Offline	Woops, mid march i meant. i hope i haven't just tempted fate

Jan 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mikiew MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Leeds Local Time: 04:11 AM Posts: 22 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Dazmac13 (original) Woops, mid march i meant. i hope i haven't just tempted fate Cheers, looking forward to the review. Where did August come from???? Mike. Z4 3.0 (R56 JCW on order though!)

Jan 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Robert Stancliff MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2003 Local Time: 10:11 PM Posts: 202 Offline	In general, the lower the power, the bigger the peformance difference. Some very low powered economy cars used to only be available with a manual gearbox because an automatic dropped their performace to an unacceptable level. Robert Stancliff Sr.

Jan 20th, 2007, 08:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
susmaloi Ozisu Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Adelaide Local Time: 12:41 PM Posts: 1 Offline	Have any automatic Coopers been delivered yet? Any road tests in UK or anywhere?

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