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pebz · Apr 14th, 2007, 01:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hartge210 (original)

I went from an 02 Honda Civic Type R to an 03 MCS (Hartge).

I LIKED my Honda, but I love my MINI, I know I made the right decision!!!

Yeh I had the old shape civic type R on order and cancelled it for a Mini Cooper S (R53). Mainly because the old shape Civic (EP3) was so basic and a boring looking. I wanted to upgrade the Mini and was going to change it for the new shape but I really dont like the new R56 so went for the new shape Type R(FN2).

caesar · Apr 14th, 2007, 09:55 AM

I've got an 04 (facelift) Civic Type-R and am thinking of changing it for a new Mini Cooper 'S' but am not sure it's the right decision!!!

pebz · Apr 14th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

I've got an 04 (facelift) Civic Type-R and am thinking of changing it for a new Mini Cooper 'S' but am not sure it's the right decision!!!

At the end of the day its horses for courses. Test drive the car and see if you like it, thinking about whether you can live with it everyday. I got lots of interest from girls when I had my mini which is def a positive

all i seem to get with my Honda is male attention.

caesar · Apr 14th, 2007, 12:26 PM

"all i seem to get with my Honda is male attention"........could be good/bad depending on your inclinations!

The Type-R tends to get the attention of boy racers trying to compete with it, can be annoying at times !

JayM2 · Apr 14th, 2007, 01:37 PM

I've currently got a 55 plate Type R (premier) and about to change for a new MCS. I had a 04 plate MCS a few years back and have missed it ever since. The EP3 CTR is a great drivers car in terms of outright performance, but for me it hasn't got the overall X-factor of the Mini. Don't believe all you hear about Honda's being perfect, materials and build quality is way off what it once was. The new FN2 CTR doesn't interest me at all.

MaTTy_P · Apr 14th, 2007, 02:43 PM

As per my earlier posts, I noticed a worrying thing regarding my friends Type R...the air vent indicators (ie closed or open) were actually just stickers??? Stuck on pictures

Thats a quality build!

pebz · Apr 14th, 2007, 03:16 PM

Yeh thats the reason I cancelled the my Honda order 3 years ago in favour of the Mini. Then Honda then was well engineered under the bonnet, but very poor interior (typical of Japanese cars). But I was much impressed with the new Type-R they have much improved the interior. Wheras I feel that Mini have have reduced their quality, dont get me wrong im not saying the new Mini is poor just not enough improvment for me to stay with the brand. Like I say i was impressed with my R53 ok it had faults in the 3 years I owned it but BMW were 2nd to non in putting them right.

There are plenty of other manufacturers that would be more dissapointing than Honda or BMW.

Mooyer · May 7th, 2007, 06:01 PM

Test drove a new Type R yesterday, very, very nice car. Actually really like the interior, doesn't look quite as random i the flesh, loved the gearbox, tight and positive. Seats good too very comfy

My only gripe with it was that it didn't actually feel that quick, i know its much quicker than an MCS on paper, but as the power is over 5,500 revs you don't really get that kick in the back.

Ill wait for the works to come out tho before deciding my next car. If its too expensive, like the R56 MCS then I probs end up getting one of these

MINI-Morgan · May 7th, 2007, 08:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mooyer (original)

Test drove a new Type R yesterday, very, very nice car. Actually really like the interior, doesn't look quite as random i the flesh, loved the gearbox, tight and positive. Seats good too very comfy

My only gripe with it was that it didn't actually feel that quick, i know its much quicker than an MCS on paper, but as the power is over 5,500 revs you don't really get that kick in the back.

Ill wait for the works to come out tho before deciding my next car. If its too expensive, like the R56 MCS then I probs end up getting one of these

Everyday driving the MCS will be faster always. Type-R's are only faster on paper and in a 1/4mile race. Overtaking and general driving around town they arent unless you change down 3 gears and boot it. Or just drive at high revs but then the fuel just vanishes.....

lucifuge · May 8th, 2007, 10:21 AM

I currently own an Integra Type-S, which performs very similarly to a Civic Type R. It is a great car, but, and it's a big but, it's an extremely engaging car. This has its pro's and con's; it provides great feedback, but it can also be very tiring if you are not in the mood. I test drove the Mini Cooper S and am in a qualified position to make a valid comparison. The mini Cooper S is FAR easier to live with. You can potter around town, or, you give it some stick. The trap with the Civic Type R is that it's performance is initially very appealing, but over time it gets a bit too much. But by then its too late, you've already bought one. Stick with the Mini Cooper S all the way, it's quicker, its more fuel efficient, its arguably more stylish and handles better in all conditions but particularly in the wet..

May 7th, 2007, 06:01 PM	#148 (permalink)
Mooyer MINI2 Senior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 372 Offline	Test drove a new Type R yesterday, very, very nice car. Actually really like the interior, doesn't look quite as random i the flesh, loved the gearbox, tight and positive. Seats good too very comfy My only gripe with it was that it didn't actually feel that quick, i know its much quicker than an MCS on paper, but as the power is over 5,500 revs you don't really get that kick in the back. Ill wait for the works to come out tho before deciding my next car. If its too expensive, like the R56 MCS then I probs end up getting one of these "....you'd be getting a child from Albania.......you mean all white with pink eyes???....."

May 7th, 2007, 08:53 PM	#149 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 4,712 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Mooyer (original) Test drove a new Type R yesterday, very, very nice car. Actually really like the interior, doesn't look quite as random i the flesh, loved the gearbox, tight and positive. Seats good too very comfy My only gripe with it was that it didn't actually feel that quick, i know its much quicker than an MCS on paper, but as the power is over 5,500 revs you don't really get that kick in the back. Ill wait for the works to come out tho before deciding my next car. If its too expensive, like the R56 MCS then I probs end up getting one of these Everyday driving the MCS will be faster always. Type-R's are only faster on paper and in a 1/4mile race. Overtaking and general driving around town they arent unless you change down 3 gears and boot it. Or just drive at high revs but then the fuel just vanishes..... One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

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Apr 14th, 2007, 01:39 AM	#141
pebz MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: england Local Time: 07:09 AM Posts: 34 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hartge210 (original) I went from an 02 Honda Civic Type R to an 03 MCS (Hartge). I LIKED my Honda, but I love my MINI, I know I made the right decision!!! Yeh I had the old shape civic type R on order and cancelled it for a Mini Cooper S (R53). Mainly because the old shape Civic (EP3) was so basic and a boring looking. I wanted to upgrade the Mini and was going to change it for the new shape but I really dont like the new R56 so went for the new shape Type R(FN2).

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Apr 14th, 2007, 09:55 AM	#142 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 860 Offline	I've got an 04 (facelift) Civic Type-R and am thinking of changing it for a new Mini Cooper 'S' but am not sure it's the right decision!!!

Apr 14th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#143 (permalink)
pebz MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: england Local Time: 07:09 AM Posts: 34 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original) I've got an 04 (facelift) Civic Type-R and am thinking of changing it for a new Mini Cooper 'S' but am not sure it's the right decision!!! At the end of the day its horses for courses. Test drive the car and see if you like it, thinking about whether you can live with it everyday. I got lots of interest from girls when I had my mini which is def a positive all i seem to get with my Honda is male attention.

Apr 14th, 2007, 12:26 PM	#144 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 860 Offline	"all i seem to get with my Honda is male attention"........could be good/bad depending on your inclinations! The Type-R tends to get the attention of boy racers trying to compete with it, can be annoying at times !

Apr 14th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#145 (permalink)
JayM2 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 49 Offline	I've currently got a 55 plate Type R (premier) and about to change for a new MCS. I had a 04 plate MCS a few years back and have missed it ever since. The EP3 CTR is a great drivers car in terms of outright performance, but for me it hasn't got the overall X-factor of the Mini. Don't believe all you hear about Honda's being perfect, materials and build quality is way off what it once was. The new FN2 CTR doesn't interest me at all.

Apr 14th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#146 (permalink)
MaTTy_P Joy! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newcastle Local Time: 06:09 AM Posts: 1,329 Offline	As per my earlier posts, I noticed a worrying thing regarding my friends Type R...the air vent indicators (ie closed or open) were actually just stickers??? Stuck on pictures Thats a quality build!

Apr 14th, 2007, 03:16 PM	#147 (permalink)
pebz MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: england Local Time: 07:09 AM Posts: 34 Offline	Yeh thats the reason I cancelled the my Honda order 3 years ago in favour of the Mini. Then Honda then was well engineered under the bonnet, but very poor interior (typical of Japanese cars). But I was much impressed with the new Type-R they have much improved the interior. Wheras I feel that Mini have have reduced their quality, dont get me wrong im not saying the new Mini is poor just not enough improvment for me to stay with the brand. Like I say i was impressed with my R53 ok it had faults in the 3 years I owned it but BMW were 2nd to non in putting them right. There are plenty of other manufacturers that would be more dissapointing than Honda or BMW.

May 8th, 2007, 10:21 AM	#150 (permalink)
lucifuge MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 04:09 PM Posts: 8 Offline	I currently own an Integra Type-S, which performs very similarly to a Civic Type R. It is a great car, but, and it's a big but, it's an extremely engaging car. This has its pro's and con's; it provides great feedback, but it can also be very tiring if you are not in the mood. I test drove the Mini Cooper S and am in a qualified position to make a valid comparison. The mini Cooper S is FAR easier to live with. You can potter around town, or, you give it some stick. The trap with the Civic Type R is that it's performance is initially very appealing, but over time it gets a bit too much. But by then its too late, you've already bought one. Stick with the Mini Cooper S all the way, it's quicker, its more fuel efficient, its arguably more stylish and handles better in all conditions but particularly in the wet..

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