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caesar · Feb 25th, 2007, 09:18 PM

Am considering getting an MCS, and know the exhaust note on the previous MCS (1) sounded great

How does the MCS(2) compare with the MCS(1)

Paul · Feb 25th, 2007, 09:49 PM

My opinion.....

MINI Cooper S to July 2004: The best factory exhaust sounds. Lovely pops, burlbes and cackles.

Cooper S July 2004 onwards - Too raspy, too asthmatic, trying too hard. Easier to pop and burble, but not as nice as before.

2nd generation Cooper S: Really deep and sport, nicer than both the above, bangs/pops etc, but not as "burbley", and no "raspy" like the July 2004 onwards S.

But of all the "standard" options, I think the JCW exhaust on the first generation wins overall, followed by the 2nd gen S, then the first of the first gens.

Parc77 · Feb 25th, 2007, 10:23 PM

Mini Cooper S to July 2004 with a Milltek (which sounds better than the JCW exhaust)
pops crackles and burbles and sounds superb hence me buying one a couple of years ago

I do like the deep sound of the 2nd gen exhaust it has a nice quality sound to it.

When in car though the first gen BMW Mini cant be beaten supercharger whine plus exhaust note are music to the ears, like a finely tuned instument (with Milltek).

Although Id be interested to here what the Milltek on the new turbo S sounds like

miniXL · Feb 26th, 2007, 01:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

Am considering getting an MCS, and know the exhaust note on the previous MCS (1) sounded great

How does the MCS(2) compare with the MCS(1)

You Tube Video

sef · Feb 26th, 2007, 10:18 AM

That sounds great...

Rakey · Feb 26th, 2007, 10:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

My opinion.....

MINI Cooper S to July 2004: The best factory exhaust sounds. Lovely pops, burlbes and cackles.

Cooper S July 2004 onwards - Too raspy, too asthmatic, trying too hard. Easier to pop and burble, but not as nice as before.

2nd generation Cooper S: Really deep and sport, nicer than both the above, bangs/pops etc, but not as "burbley", and no "raspy" like the July 2004 onwards S.

But of all the "standard" options, I think the JCW exhaust on the first generation wins overall, followed by the 2nd gen S, then the first of the first gens.

Agree with what Paul says, but also worth considering that cabin noise also is different to the noise outside the car

As on the R56 you can't actually hear the nice note of the exhaust like those outside, its much quieter in there than on the old MINI's, and lot more quiet than my MCSC JCW

marx87 · Feb 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original)

Agree with what Paul says, but also worth considering that cabin noise also is different to the noise outside the car

As on the R56 you can't actually hear the nice note of the exhaust like those outside, its much quieter in there than on the old MINI's, and lot more quiet than my MCSC JCW

Agreed! the R56 sounds great from the outside!

CooperS-indiblue · Mar 1st, 2007, 07:41 PM

I've made a video of my R56 Cooper S while driving. With a camera mounted on the back-bumper.

He're it is:
click here to see the video

caesar · Mar 1st, 2007, 09:29 PM

That sounds fantastic.

You have answered my question, thanks very much.

Griffer · Mar 2nd, 2007, 11:09 AM

Great video, knew it sounded good but only revving it at standstill with the boot open!

Rob PLCPR · Mar 2nd, 2007, 02:32 PM

Wow!!! I love that gurggle sound!! Sweeeeeet!!!

MCO7PER S · Mar 4th, 2007, 07:31 PM

So it is a waste of money upgrading the radio from the standard unit when you have beutiful music like that for free ?.

Feb 25th, 2007, 09:18 PM	#1
caesar MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 860 Offline	MCS - Exhaust sound? Am considering getting an MCS, and know the exhaust note on the previous MCS (1) sounded great How does the MCS(2) compare with the MCS(1)

Feb 25th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	My opinion..... MINI Cooper S to July 2004: The best factory exhaust sounds. Lovely pops, burlbes and cackles. Cooper S July 2004 onwards - Too raspy, too asthmatic, trying too hard. Easier to pop and burble, but not as nice as before. 2nd generation Cooper S: Really deep and sport, nicer than both the above, bangs/pops etc, but not as "burbley", and no "raspy" like the July 2004 onwards S. But of all the "standard" options, I think the JCW exhaust on the first generation wins overall, followed by the 2nd gen S, then the first of the first gens. Trained Monkeys

Feb 26th, 2007, 10:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
Rakey Remember My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 50,153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) My opinion..... MINI Cooper S to July 2004: The best factory exhaust sounds. Lovely pops, burlbes and cackles. Cooper S July 2004 onwards - Too raspy, too asthmatic, trying too hard. Easier to pop and burble, but not as nice as before. 2nd generation Cooper S: Really deep and sport, nicer than both the above, bangs/pops etc, but not as "burbley", and no "raspy" like the July 2004 onwards S. But of all the "standard" options, I think the JCW exhaust on the first generation wins overall, followed by the 2nd gen S, then the first of the first gens. Agree with what Paul says, but also worth considering that cabin noise also is different to the noise outside the car As on the R56 you can't actually hear the nice note of the exhaust like those outside, its much quieter in there than on the old MINI's, and lot more quiet than my MCSC JCW The only problem I have is knowing which one to drive?

Mar 1st, 2007, 07:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
CooperS-indiblue www.NewMINIclub.nl member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bergen op Zoom Local Time: 08:47 AM Posts: 24 Offline	I've made a video of my R56 Cooper S while driving. With a camera mounted on the back-bumper. He're it is: click here to see the video Let's burn some serious rubber! 2007 MINI Cooper S (Lightning Blue), what a great little car!

Mar 2nd, 2007, 02:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rob PLCPR PW/B R56 Cooper is here! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Carlisle, Cumbria Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 178 Offline	Wow!!! I love that gurggle sound!! Sweeeeeet!!! PW/B R56 Cooper is here!!! Lovin it, Lovin it, Lovin it!!!!

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Feb 25th, 2007, 10:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Parc77 MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Yorkshire Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 2,345 Offline	Mini Cooper S to July 2004 with a Milltek (which sounds better than the JCW exhaust) pops crackles and burbles and sounds superb hence me buying one a couple of years ago I do like the deep sound of the 2nd gen exhaust it has a nice quality sound to it. When in car though the first gen BMW Mini cant be beaten supercharger whine plus exhaust note are music to the ears, like a finely tuned instument (with Milltek). Although Id be interested to here what the Milltek on the new turbo S sounds like

Feb 26th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#4 (permalink)
miniXL Small + Car = Big Smiles Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Berkshire, UK Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 368 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original) Am considering getting an MCS, and know the exhaust note on the previous MCS (1) sounded great How does the MCS(2) compare with the MCS(1) You Tube Video

Feb 26th, 2007, 10:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 717 Offline	That sounds great...

Feb 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
marx87 R56 MCS Works For Sale! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Carlisle UK Local Time: 07:47 AM Posts: 471 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original) Agree with what Paul says, but also worth considering that cabin noise also is different to the noise outside the car As on the R56 you can't actually hear the nice note of the exhaust like those outside, its much quieter in there than on the old MINI's, and lot more quiet than my MCSC JCW Agreed! the R56 sounds great from the outside!

Mar 1st, 2007, 09:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 860 Offline	That sounds fantastic. You have answered my question, thanks very much.

Mar 2nd, 2007, 11:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Griffer Now Cooper D Clubman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Somerset Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 569 Offline	Great video, knew it sounded good but only revving it at standstill with the boot open!

Mar 4th, 2007, 07:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
MCO7PER S I HATE SCAMS Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Local Time: 06:47 AM Posts: 146 Offline	So it is a waste of money upgrading the radio from the standard unit when you have beutiful music like that for free ?.

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