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mobergy · May 20th, 2007, 06:04 PM

I am looking to buy a 2007 Mini Cooper S, but was wondering if i'd be better off waiting for the 2008s to come out. Does anyone know if the 2008s will be improved in terms of HP, Torque, etc. versus the 2007s? When will the 2008 models be on sale? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Paul · May 20th, 2007, 06:10 PM

Nothing major really, as it will only be a year from launch when the next model year appears. The Clubman Estate will be launching also, so the hatch wont need so much attention from MINIs point of view. Maybe small tweaks in spec, but nothing beyond that.

September is the regular model year change.

minimad17 · May 20th, 2007, 06:13 PM

paul, what small changes to the spec do you think there will be? im guessing your saying that based on what happened with the R50 or R53?

many thanks

JM

Paul · May 20th, 2007, 06:16 PM

I've not got specifics at this time to say what will be changed or updated, but really nothing dramatic. Most tweaks and changes are happening on a rolling basis just now, as they tend to do.

minimad17 · May 20th, 2007, 06:18 PM

oh ok....and in your opinion would you say id be better off waiting for an 08 or 58 plate MCS or going ahead and ordering one now for a 8-12 del? (prob a sept del)

thanks !

JM

Paul · May 20th, 2007, 06:22 PM

If you're looking at a September delivery, then I personally would hold off for a September or later build, but only because of the little difference in wait. I don't think there will be much worth losing sleep over in terms of the next model year. But who knows what could happen between now and then, it's a fair way off.

minimad17 · May 20th, 2007, 06:28 PM

hmmm you've got me thinking now? it sounds like a big deal "who knows what could happen between now and then" seems like the R59 is going to be launched haha! seriously though...the reason i asked was because iv seen many posts on here about problems people have had with their mini e.g. popey as one....and if i perhaps waited a 6-12 months then perhaps mini might have ironed out all the problems which some of the R56'c currently suffer from? is that a reason why i should hold off for a sept del?

and without a doubt it seems inevitable that the price will increase too!

Thanks

JM

popey · May 21st, 2007, 06:07 PM

Did someone mention my name??????

Dont let me put you off, Im sure that your car will be fine. I dont make posts to put people off, just a diary if you like of my MINI adventure.

I still have the odd niggle with my 2nd R56 and gear box is still making that horrid noise BUT when the sun is out and the tunes are on I'm loving it!! Not to mention it looks the muts nuts

minimad17 · May 21st, 2007, 06:24 PM

i love your car popey its its the bees knees

i cant wait to get one....im just saying....in hindsight would you have got 1 now or wait 6-12 months?

JM

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · May 21st, 2007, 06:30 PM

It's not just improvements in build that you might see, but service departments will build up experience on what goes wrong and how best to fix it quickly and permanently; the spares back up ought to improve as well.

If you can wait for a while, I'd wait.

minimad17 · May 21st, 2007, 06:32 PM

thanks tigger for the advice....i might wait for an 08 march del....think it would be my best bet...although its hard to resist the temptation to order one as soon as! what do you drive?

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · May 21st, 2007, 06:38 PM

I can appreciate it's not an easy wait and would fully understand if you went for it now anyway

I mention the bit about service departments as I work in a different industry, but one where the service department's technical people can be trained by the manufacturer, but it's only after working on new models for a few months that they get to really understand them and the best ways to look after them. Until then, it's just practicing!

I ran an original R50 Cooper for nearly 3 years and then went for one of the very last of the old model supercharged S's in February this year. Love it to bits

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. What car are you driving at the moment? Will it be okay to cover you for 6 or 9 month wait?

Tigger.

minimad17 · May 21st, 2007, 06:42 PM

yeh nothing wrong with my car! i have a 1.6 golf....march 06 plate..only done 10k miles....great car...love it...but iv always been an avid mini fan and feel its only right to make the transition to a mini once and for all!

whats the spec, colour of your S? would you ever consider a R56 in the near future?

JM

Tigger, Eeyore & Roo · May 21st, 2007, 06:51 PM

Sounds like a nice car to tide you over

But there's nothing like a MINI for putting a huge grin on your face. Can't recommend it highly enough

My own S is Chilli pack, full leather, multifunction steering wheel and webspoke alloys (lovely to look at, but only for the committed polishers amongst us!) That's how it left the showroom, but then there have been a few mods along the way

Just wait until the modding bug bites!

Though the R56 has a lot to recommend it, I'm more of an R53 fan myself; this is a long term purchase and should be with us for some time yet. I don't want to put you off an R56 for a moment, but you could try out an R53 while your waiting, if only for the fun of trying a supercharged petrol engine while you still can

I'm very used to driving some powerful turbo diesels (so it's not a completely fair comparison), but there is nothing quite like the way a supercharger responds instantly to requests for instant power!

Whatever you do, sort yourself out with a MINI of some kind and please keep us posted of what you decide to do.

Tigger.

minimad17 · May 21st, 2007, 07:01 PM

nice spec tigger! yeh i have been a mini fan for a long time....but opted for a golf in the end over a cooper (couldnt afford an S at the time)......all being well i think i will purchase an R56 S if things are right etc...but im certain to wait for at least 6 months! .....as you can probably see from many threads i'm being rather inquisitive as i want to know all the ins and outs of the car before i make up my mind...

I will indeed keep you posted.

Take Care

JM

popey · May 22nd, 2007, 04:11 PM

I think there are still probs with the gearbox, so I'd wait if I was you. I think by September you will be safe and in time for a new reg.

FergusM · May 22nd, 2007, 04:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by minimad17 (original)

nice spec tigger! yeh i have been a mini fan for a long time....but opted for a golf in the end over a cooper (couldnt afford an S at the time)......all being well i think i will purchase an R56 S if things are right etc...but im certain to wait for at least 6 months! .....as you can probably see from many threads i'm being rather inquisitive as i want to know all the ins and outs of the car before i make up my mind...

I will indeed keep you posted.

Take Care

JM

I was looking at a Golf GTI but prospect of a new model next year put me off. Yes they will have all the bugs ironed out but come trade in time I would get the "it is an old model" bit before getting a lower trade in value.

minimad17 · May 22nd, 2007, 04:32 PM

thanks fergus....whats this about a new golf gti?

Paul · May 25th, 2007, 02:03 PM

25th May 2007: Increased driving pleasure, reduced fuel consumption: the new MINI in the model year 2008

^^^ 2008 model year details.

zyo · May 25th, 2007, 05:35 PM

Will it mean cheaper road tax?

May 20th, 2007, 06:04 PM	#1
mobergy MINI2 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 01:29 AM Posts: 7 Offline	2008 Mini Cooper S - any Upgrades over 2007? I am looking to buy a 2007 Mini Cooper S, but was wondering if i'd be better off waiting for the 2008s to come out. Does anyone know if the 2008s will be improved in terms of HP, Torque, etc. versus the 2007s? When will the 2008 models be on sale? Any help is greatly appreciated.

May 20th, 2007, 06:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	Nothing major really, as it will only be a year from launch when the next model year appears. The Clubman Estate will be launching also, so the hatch wont need so much attention from MINIs point of view. Maybe small tweaks in spec, but nothing beyond that. September is the regular model year change. Trained Monkeys

May 20th, 2007, 06:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	I've not got specifics at this time to say what will be changed or updated, but really nothing dramatic. Most tweaks and changes are happening on a rolling basis just now, as they tend to do. Trained Monkeys

May 20th, 2007, 06:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	If you're looking at a September delivery, then I personally would hold off for a September or later build, but only because of the little difference in wait. I don't think there will be much worth losing sleep over in terms of the next model year. But who knows what could happen between now and then, it's a fair way off. Trained Monkeys

May 21st, 2007, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
popey Wanted an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 1,788 Offline	Did someone mention my name?????? Dont let me put you off, Im sure that your car will be fine. I dont make posts to put people off, just a diary if you like of my MINI adventure. I still have the odd niggle with my 2nd R56 and gear box is still making that horrid noise BUT when the sun is out and the tunes are on I'm loving it!! Not to mention it looks the muts nuts Attached Thumbnails

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May 20th, 2007, 06:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	paul, what small changes to the spec do you think there will be? im guessing your saying that based on what happened with the R50 or R53? many thanks JM

May 20th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	oh ok....and in your opinion would you say id be better off waiting for an 08 or 58 plate MCS or going ahead and ordering one now for a 8-12 del? (prob a sept del) thanks ! JM

May 20th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	hmmm you've got me thinking now? it sounds like a big deal "who knows what could happen between now and then" seems like the R59 is going to be launched haha! seriously though...the reason i asked was because iv seen many posts on here about problems people have had with their mini e.g. popey as one....and if i perhaps waited a 6-12 months then perhaps mini might have ironed out all the problems which some of the R56'c currently suffer from? is that a reason why i should hold off for a sept del? and without a doubt it seems inevitable that the price will increase too! Thanks JM

May 21st, 2007, 06:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	i love your car popey its its the bees knees i cant wait to get one....im just saying....in hindsight would you have got 1 now or wait 6-12 months? JM

May 21st, 2007, 06:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	It's not just improvements in build that you might see, but service departments will build up experience on what goes wrong and how best to fix it quickly and permanently; the spares back up ought to improve as well. If you can wait for a while, I'd wait. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

May 21st, 2007, 06:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	thanks tigger for the advice....i might wait for an 08 march del....think it would be my best bet...although its hard to resist the temptation to order one as soon as! what do you drive?

May 21st, 2007, 06:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	I can appreciate it's not an easy wait and would fully understand if you went for it now anyway I mention the bit about service departments as I work in a different industry, but one where the service department's technical people can be trained by the manufacturer, but it's only after working on new models for a few months that they get to really understand them and the best ways to look after them. Until then, it's just practicing! I ran an original R50 Cooper for nearly 3 years and then went for one of the very last of the old model supercharged S's in February this year. Love it to bits Good luck with whatever you decide to do. What car are you driving at the moment? Will it be okay to cover you for 6 or 9 month wait? Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

May 21st, 2007, 06:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	yeh nothing wrong with my car! i have a 1.6 golf....march 06 plate..only done 10k miles....great car...love it...but iv always been an avid mini fan and feel its only right to make the transition to a mini once and for all! whats the spec, colour of your S? would you ever consider a R56 in the near future? JM

May 21st, 2007, 06:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tigger, Eeyore & Roo I'm Back! My Classifieds Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kernow, near England Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 4,573 Offline	Sounds like a nice car to tide you over But there's nothing like a MINI for putting a huge grin on your face. Can't recommend it highly enough My own S is Chilli pack, full leather, multifunction steering wheel and webspoke alloys (lovely to look at, but only for the committed polishers amongst us!) That's how it left the showroom, but then there have been a few mods along the way Just wait until the modding bug bites! Though the R56 has a lot to recommend it, I'm more of an R53 fan myself; this is a long term purchase and should be with us for some time yet. I don't want to put you off an R56 for a moment, but you could try out an R53 while your waiting, if only for the fun of trying a supercharged petrol engine while you still can I'm very used to driving some powerful turbo diesels (so it's not a completely fair comparison), but there is nothing quite like the way a supercharger responds instantly to requests for instant power! Whatever you do, sort yourself out with a MINI of some kind and please keep us posted of what you decide to do. Tigger. Unintimated and I'm back!! For sunshine, fun and Cornish Pasties: New MINI Kernow Cornish Oggy Run 2009!

May 21st, 2007, 07:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	nice spec tigger! yeh i have been a mini fan for a long time....but opted for a golf in the end over a cooper (couldnt afford an S at the time)......all being well i think i will purchase an R56 S if things are right etc...but im certain to wait for at least 6 months! .....as you can probably see from many threads i'm being rather inquisitive as i want to know all the ins and outs of the car before i make up my mind... I will indeed keep you posted. Take Care JM

May 22nd, 2007, 04:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
popey Wanted an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 1,788 Offline	I think there are still probs with the gearbox, so I'd wait if I was you. I think by September you will be safe and in time for a new reg.

May 22nd, 2007, 04:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
FergusM MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 692 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by minimad17 (original) nice spec tigger! yeh i have been a mini fan for a long time....but opted for a golf in the end over a cooper (couldnt afford an S at the time)......all being well i think i will purchase an R56 S if things are right etc...but im certain to wait for at least 6 months! .....as you can probably see from many threads i'm being rather inquisitive as i want to know all the ins and outs of the car before i make up my mind... I will indeed keep you posted. Take Care JM I was looking at a Golf GTI but prospect of a new model next year put me off. Yes they will have all the bugs ironed out but come trade in time I would get the "it is an old model" bit before getting a lower trade in value.

May 22nd, 2007, 04:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
minimad17 R56 S in the making Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 06:29 AM Posts: 198 Offline	thanks fergus....whats this about a new golf gti?

May 25th, 2007, 02:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Big grey box Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 40,514 Offline	25th May 2007: Increased driving pleasure, reduced fuel consumption: the new MINI in the model year 2008 ^^^ 2008 model year details. Trained Monkeys

May 25th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
zyo owt else is just traffic Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Edge of Reason Local Time: 05:29 AM Posts: 1,424 Offline	Will it mean cheaper road tax?

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