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Red12345 · Jul 23rd, 2007, 09:50 AM

Hi,

I have a Mini Cooper S on order and have only added the following options:

Auto Climate Control
On-Board Computer
17" Chown Alloys

Looking on the Mini website and specing the car up, I notice that the car has the front fog light showing in the picture.

Will I have the front fog light as shown in the picture or do I need to add them as an extra?

Cheers

picard · Jul 23rd, 2007, 11:27 AM

according to the configurater fog lights are £90, so on a std cooper s you will not get them, however the bumper must look the same as the sidelights are in the same glass as the foglights,

have you not considered the chili pack as u get crown spokes aircon foglights and quite a bit more however it is £2k

Red12345 · Jul 23rd, 2007, 01:08 PM

Thanks picard,

We have looked at the chili pack, but did not go for it, as its another £860 and we really didn't want the extra stuff.

Just as long as we get the car looking like the one in the picture we are happy.

Cheers

caesar · Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:26 PM

Suggest you add LSD (Limited Slip Differential) at £100, it's only been available since March and is well worth having.

I love MINI, Laura · Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:38 PM

It is a universal debate whether to get the Chili Pack or not. May people have found that when it comes to selling on have a hard time doing so if they don't have the chilli pack. Theres a big thread on here somewhere "to chili or not to chili" type of thing.

For example: There is a gorgeous Pepper white/Black 06 MCS R53 style with no chili pack with less than 5000 on the clock on the cherished website and is down to £13999 compared to the other R53 MCS's with Chili pack of that same caliber around £15999-£16500.
£2000-£2500 less just because no chilli pack! Maybe its something to think about?
I know £2000 for the chili is a bit rediculous now though!

Red12345 · Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:53 PM

I hear what you are saying, but I feel that we have added the most important options

Auto Climate Air Con
17" Chrown Alloys
On-Board Computer

The rest don't really matter in my opinion

I love MINI, Laura · Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:56 PM

Thats all that matters then. Its your MINI and whats the point in paying for extra if your not interested in them? This is the debate covered thousands of times in the speccing threads and no one answer is ever right. Its all personal preference.

Enjoy!

In answer of your first question: Fog lights will be an additional extra if not including Chili pack.

Simz · Jul 23rd, 2007, 03:36 PM

the xenons are easily worth the extra money - I would def re-consider the chili pack as you don't want to regret it...you get the money back...and more when you come to selling it on

popey · Jul 23rd, 2007, 03:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red12345 (original)

I hear what you are saying, but I feel that we have added the most important options

Auto Climate Air Con
17" Chrown Alloys
On-Board Computer

The rest don't really matter in my opinion

Why not just have manual AC, save a few £££ and add the chilli pack which will includes manual AC (or £230 to make it Auto AC) + all the other bits and bobs for an extra £630 (on top of what your options are above)..... and you get xenon lights which are fantastic!!!

Also I would add the MFSW its £170 but you do get cruise control with that

.

Red12345 · Jul 24th, 2007, 01:42 PM

After sleeping on it, and realiseing that we get half leather seats, I am going to change the order and add on the Chili Pack.

Thanks for all your advise, my wife can't wait to pick up her new MCS.

popey · Jul 24th, 2007, 02:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Red12345 (original)

After sleeping on it, and realiseing that we get half leather seats, I am going to change the order and add on the Chili Pack.

Thanks for all your advise, my wife can't wait to pick up her new MCS.

You are doing the right thing

I love MINI, Laura · Jul 24th, 2007, 02:22 PM

Now you've just got to choose what colour half leather seats and trim to go for, black, red, blue, yellow or cream!! That opens a whole new barrel of laughs! Good luck speccing!

caesar · Jul 24th, 2007, 02:23 PM

Very wise of you.

The Chili Pack although expensive does offer a lot of good extras, and the cost will be largely recovered when you sell the car.

Good luck with your new car.

Greenie1 · Jul 24th, 2007, 03:48 PM

From my experience of trying to sell my 06 cooper. Any extras that you add on are worth nothing when selling back to the dealers.

I bought a 06 Cooper Hyper blue brand new in July 06.
Chilli pack, HK sound system, ipod interface, spotlamps & JCW sound kit.
Currently 11K on clock.
Probably cost me near £16K, one dealer offered me £9.5K, another dealer said £10K.
Both had the excuse of "it might take some selling as it has no air conditioning"

caesar · Jul 24th, 2007, 06:29 PM

Air Conditioning is included with the Chili Pack on the MCS !

The fact that Greenie1 did not have A/C would account for the low 2nd hand value.

Ben18 · Jul 24th, 2007, 07:39 PM

Very wise move! Just for the bi-xenons its worth it, they are great

Now comes the waiting....................................

Ben.

Greenie1 · Jul 26th, 2007, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

Air Conditioning is included with the Chili Pack on the MCS !

The fact that Greenie1 did not have A/C would account for the low 2nd hand value.

Any extras you buy aren't worth a bean when selling your car on.
No A/C - weak excuse from Dealership.

caesar · Jul 26th, 2007, 08:11 PM

Sorry but I don't agree.

Prior to buying my MCS I had a 04 Honda Civic Type-R. Manual A/C was an optional extra at £1,000 which I got. When I part-exchanged the Honda for the MCS this month I had an extra £600 because it had A/C.
Prior to this I paid for a Glass's Guide valuation, the same applied + £600 if you had A/C .

I also advertised the Honda on Piston Heads, Type-R's were difficult to sell at a good price unless they had A/C.

popey · Jul 26th, 2007, 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original)

Any extras you buy aren't worth a bean when selling your car on.
No A/C - weak excuse from Dealership.

I don't think so, when you get up to the price your looking at for your car most people expect AC. If they had 2 cars in of same (ish) spec, which one would go first???? Its a huge but on the advert to sell a car with an otherwise good spec :
----------------------------
Chilli pack, HK sound system, ipod interface, spotlamps & JCW sound kit.
Currently 11K on clock But no Air Con
-------------------------------

The way I look at it is that if you had good use out of the extras and enjoyed the car it softens the blow.

devaisl · Jul 27th, 2007, 09:01 AM

The way I look at it is that if you had good use out of the extras and enjoyed the car it softens the blow.[/quote]

Definitely agree with Popey on this one - when I'm buying a car I always go for the extras I really want (as long as I can afford them obviously!) and everyone tells me I'm mad because I wont get any of the value back when I sell! But the way I see it is I'm buying the car for me to enjoy. Lifes too short

Jul 23rd, 2007, 09:50 AM	#1
Red12345 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Question about a my Order MCS Hi, I have a Mini Cooper S on order and have only added the following options: Auto Climate Control On-Board Computer 17" Chown Alloys Looking on the Mini website and specing the car up, I notice that the car has the front fog light showing in the picture. Will I have the front fog light as shown in the picture or do I need to add them as an extra? Cheers

Jul 23rd, 2007, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
picard MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 316 Offline	according to the configurater fog lights are £90, so on a std cooper s you will not get them, however the bumper must look the same as the sidelights are in the same glass as the foglights, have you not considered the chili pack as u get crown spokes aircon foglights and quite a bit more however it is £2k MINI Photos

Jul 23rd, 2007, 03:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
popey Wants an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 1,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Red12345 (original) I hear what you are saying, but I feel that we have added the most important options Auto Climate Air Con 17" Chrown Alloys On-Board Computer The rest don't really matter in my opinion Why not just have manual AC, save a few £££ and add the chilli pack which will includes manual AC (or £230 to make it Auto AC) + all the other bits and bobs for an extra £630 (on top of what your options are above)..... and you get xenon lights which are fantastic!!! Also I would add the MFSW its £170 but you do get cruise control with that. Now With Toyo Rubber!!

Jul 24th, 2007, 02:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
popey Wants an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 1,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Red12345 (original) After sleeping on it, and realiseing that we get half leather seats, I am going to change the order and add on the Chili Pack. Thanks for all your advise, my wife can't wait to pick up her new MCS. You are doing the right thing Now With Toyo Rubber!!

Jul 26th, 2007, 08:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
popey Wants an Audi My Classifieds Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blackpool Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 1,428 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Greenie1 (original) Any extras you buy aren't worth a bean when selling your car on. No A/C - weak excuse from Dealership. I don't think so, when you get up to the price your looking at for your car most people expect AC. If they had 2 cars in of same (ish) spec, which one would go first???? Its a huge but on the advert to sell a car with an otherwise good spec : ---------------------------- Chilli pack, HK sound system, ipod interface, spotlamps & JCW sound kit. Currently 11K on clock But no Air Con ------------------------------- The way I look at it is that if you had good use out of the extras and enjoyed the car it softens the blow. Now With Toyo Rubber!!

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Jul 23rd, 2007, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Red12345 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 4 Offline	Thanks picard, We have looked at the chili pack, but did not go for it, as its another £860 and we really didn't want the extra stuff. Just as long as we get the car looking like the one in the picture we are happy. Cheers

Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 728 Offline	Suggest you add LSD (Limited Slip Differential) at £100, it's only been available since March and is well worth having.

Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 3,198 Offline	It is a universal debate whether to get the Chili Pack or not. May people have found that when it comes to selling on have a hard time doing so if they don't have the chilli pack. Theres a big thread on here somewhere "to chili or not to chili" type of thing. For example: There is a gorgeous Pepper white/Black 06 MCS R53 style with no chili pack with less than 5000 on the clock on the cherished website and is down to £13999 compared to the other R53 MCS's with Chili pack of that same caliber around £15999-£16500. £2000-£2500 less just because no chilli pack! Maybe its something to think about? I know £2000 for the chili is a bit rediculous now though!

Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Red12345 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 4 Offline	I hear what you are saying, but I feel that we have added the most important options Auto Climate Air Con 17" Chrown Alloys On-Board Computer The rest don't really matter in my opinion

Jul 23rd, 2007, 02:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 3,198 Offline	Thats all that matters then. Its your MINI and whats the point in paying for extra if your not interested in them? This is the debate covered thousands of times in the speccing threads and no one answer is ever right. Its all personal preference. Enjoy! In answer of your first question: Fog lights will be an additional extra if not including Chili pack.

Jul 23rd, 2007, 03:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Simz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pinner, middlesex Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 54 Offline	the xenons are easily worth the extra money - I would def re-consider the chili pack as you don't want to regret it...you get the money back...and more when you come to selling it on

Jul 24th, 2007, 01:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
Red12345 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 4 Offline	After sleeping on it, and realiseing that we get half leather seats, I am going to change the order and add on the Chili Pack. Thanks for all your advise, my wife can't wait to pick up her new MCS.

Jul 24th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
I love MINI, Laura MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Portsmouth,Hampshire Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 3,198 Offline	Now you've just got to choose what colour half leather seats and trim to go for, black, red, blue, yellow or cream!! That opens a whole new barrel of laughs! Good luck speccing!

Jul 24th, 2007, 02:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 728 Offline	Very wise of you. The Chili Pack although expensive does offer a lot of good extras, and the cost will be largely recovered when you sell the car. Good luck with your new car.

Jul 24th, 2007, 03:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 385 Offline	From my experience of trying to sell my 06 cooper. Any extras that you add on are worth nothing when selling back to the dealers. I bought a 06 Cooper Hyper blue brand new in July 06. Chilli pack, HK sound system, ipod interface, spotlamps & JCW sound kit. Currently 11K on clock. Probably cost me near £16K, one dealer offered me £9.5K, another dealer said £10K. Both had the excuse of "it might take some selling as it has no air conditioning"

Jul 24th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 728 Offline	Air Conditioning is included with the Chili Pack on the MCS ! The fact that Greenie1 did not have A/C would account for the low 2nd hand value.

Jul 24th, 2007, 07:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ben18 The S is here! Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 46 Offline	Very wise move! Just for the bi-xenons its worth it, they are great Now comes the waiting.................................... Ben.

Jul 26th, 2007, 07:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
Greenie1 vroom, vroom! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Suffolk/Essex Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 385 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original) Air Conditioning is included with the Chili Pack on the MCS ! The fact that Greenie1 did not have A/C would account for the low 2nd hand value. Any extras you buy aren't worth a bean when selling your car on. No A/C - weak excuse from Dealership.

Jul 26th, 2007, 08:11 PM	#18 (permalink)
caesar MINI2 Senior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wales Local Time: 05:16 PM Posts: 728 Offline	Sorry but I don't agree. Prior to buying my MCS I had a 04 Honda Civic Type-R. Manual A/C was an optional extra at £1,000 which I got. When I part-exchanged the Honda for the MCS this month I had an extra £600 because it had A/C. Prior to this I paid for a Glass's Guide valuation, the same applied + £600 if you had A/C . I also advertised the Honda on Piston Heads, Type-R's were difficult to sell at a good price unless they had A/C.

Jul 27th, 2007, 09:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
devaisl MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Mighty Midlands! Local Time: 04:16 PM Posts: 226 Offline	The way I look at it is that if you had good use out of the extras and enjoyed the car it softens the blow.[/quote] Definitely agree with Popey on this one - when I'm buying a car I always go for the extras I really want (as long as I can afford them obviously!) and everyone tells me I'm mad because I wont get any of the value back when I sell! But the way I see it is I'm buying the car for me to enjoy. Lifes too short

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