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Tara&Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 08:59 AM

I've heard and read rumours that BMW may have under estimated the performance of the R56 MCS? Do we have proof of this, we might have now?

Go onto www.youtube.com and search for "R56 top speed" and check out the top speed of the R56 at an unbelieveable 253kph, even with my bad maths that's a top speed of 156mph !!! No wonder there is an aero kit available, it needs it !!!

So standard or modified, what do we think?

P & T.

Mess · Sep 18th, 2007, 09:04 AM

Nice!

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YouTube - 253 Km/h on Mini Cooper S R56

Japper · Sep 18th, 2007, 09:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original)

I've heard and read rumours that BMW may have under estimated the performance of the R56 MCS? Do we have proof of this, we might have now?

Go onto www.youtube.com and search for "R56 top speed" and check out the top speed of the R56 at an unbelieveable 253kph, even with my bad maths that's a top speed of 156mph !!! No wonder there is an aero kit available, it needs it !!!

So standard or modified, what do we think?

P & T.

What's MINI quoted figure....................138mph ?

If so then i don't think this is too far off if it was a GPS based readout as the speedo will be reading up to around 8% out at that speed. It may have been slightly downhill and with a tail wind too.

Scrogg · Sep 18th, 2007, 09:50 AM

More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving?

LeakyTurnip · Sep 18th, 2007, 09:58 AM

And it was the Automatic!

aid · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:06 AM

i seen this stunt before with other cars i think is highly stupid to be recording your speedo while doing those kind of speeds the person driving clearly isnt paying attention to the road and doesnt deserve a MCS

Japper · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving?

Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too !

Yellow/Black OneD · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)

Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too !

Or Germany

The lucky so and so

Tara&Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)

Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too !

Where ever the speed was recorded, it wasn't the M25!

Scrogg · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)

Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too !

Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow/Black OneD (original)

Or Germany

The lucky so and so

it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it!

Tara&Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it!

They probably had someone sitting in the back with the camera? Or he may of had the camera straped to his ......

Japper · Sep 18th, 2007, 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it!

Agree, but if on a track then he's less likely to involve an innocent motorist should he lose control.

MarkW · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:00 PM

I wouldn't believe the readings unless it was backed up with proper timing equipment over a set distance, calibrated speedo's or professional equipment.

Bare In Mind that
Speedos overread, rough rule of thumb is about 10% but will vary between cars (ie circa 140mph real world very close to the official figures

GPS based speeds are inaccurate if any gradients are involved unless you have spent a lot of money on professional equipment not a £150 Garmin unit from Halfrauds

The Tangman · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LeakyTurnip (original)

And it was the Automatic!

I was having a play around on YouTube the other night looking for Mini vids also and on one they had done tests on a 1/4 mile drag comparing the Auto and the manual andthe Auto came in faster every time.

Now I know that historically auto's are supposed to be slower than manuals but could this be the case now that auto's are that efficient etc that they are overtaking the manuals (parden the pun!) I am aware the official BMW stats still say that the auto is slower but just wondered what you guys thought?!....I am not very mechanically savvy...

picard · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:20 PM

any noticed the revs are at 5k
seems low such a high speed
i would have thought 6.5k

Japper · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by The Tangman (original)

I was having a play around on YouTube the other night looking for Mini vids also and on one they had done tests on a 1/4 mile drag comparing the Auto and the manual andthe Auto came in faster every time.

Now I know that historically auto's are supposed to be slower than manuals but could this be the case now that auto's are that efficient etc that they are overtaking the manuals (parden the pun!) I am aware the official BMW stats still say that the auto is slower but just wondered what you guys thought?!....I am not very mechanically savvy...

The only way the Auto would / could win is probably down to two factors...........driver and more importantly..........gearing. The Auto probably has lower ratios in 1st and second to get to 60 quicker.

Just my 2p worth

Paul · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving?

Yep.

Hope that was a nice empty track, not a road.

Richard Crofts · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:51 PM

Speedos are notoriously out .... @ 70 mph by GPS my S speedo reads 76! Thats a lot of miles out!

GPS is the only real measure as car speedos are usually pap the faster you go....Oh and I'm sure it was on an airfield or oval

I have to agree the chances are its not right speed reading, not a private track/road and not clever :shakeshead:

Nath316 · Sep 18th, 2007, 12:51 PM

mmmm

well had my MCS upto 120 odd other day on a private road of course and it was v light

Wouldnt want to go much more and besides why would I want to

DaFlake · Sep 18th, 2007, 01:18 PM

First, the MINI has a top speed cap of 138 so unless you actually flash the ECU to remove it, you are not going to get much or anymore power out of the car at that speed. Once that cap is removed, it is very possible to hit that speed. I have been up to 140 mph in my MCS on the Autobahn.

Sep 18th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#1
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 483 Offline	A new top speed of 156mph? I've heard and read rumours that BMW may have under estimated the performance of the R56 MCS? Do we have proof of this, we might have now? Go onto www.youtube.com and search for "R56 top speed" and check out the top speed of the R56 at an unbelieveable 253kph, even with my bad maths that's a top speed of 156mph !!! No wonder there is an aero kit available, it needs it !!! So standard or modified, what do we think? P & T.

Sep 18th, 2007, 09:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 955 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tara&Paul (original) I've heard and read rumours that BMW may have under estimated the performance of the R56 MCS? Do we have proof of this, we might have now? Go onto www.youtube.com and search for "R56 top speed" and check out the top speed of the R56 at an unbelieveable 253kph, even with my bad maths that's a top speed of 156mph !!! No wonder there is an aero kit available, it needs it !!! So standard or modified, what do we think? P & T. What's MINI quoted figure....................138mph ? If so then i don't think this is too far off if it was a GPS based readout as the speedo will be reading up to around 8% out at that speed. It may have been slightly downhill and with a tail wind too. 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
aid i love that noise My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: hamilton Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 280 Offline	i seen this stunt before with other cars i think is highly stupid to be recording your speedo while doing those kind of speeds the person driving clearly isnt paying attention to the road and doesnt deserve a MCS 06 mcs alta cai gtt re route pipe ngk iridum sparks and big tunes

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 955 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving? Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too ! 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 955 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it! Agree, but if on a track then he's less likely to involve an innocent motorist should he lose control. 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

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Sep 18th, 2007, 09:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mess Go Go Gadget Mini Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 654 Offline	Nice! Direct link: YouTube - 253 Km/h on Mini Cooper S R56

Sep 18th, 2007, 09:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Scrogg Run out of ideas... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 15,381 Offline	More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving?

Sep 18th, 2007, 09:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
LeakyTurnip Mull Fember Join Date: Jul 2007 Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 115 Offline	And it was the Automatic!

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Yellow/Black OneD Clubman D Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Staffordshire Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 1,316 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original) Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too ! Or Germany The lucky so and so

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:28 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 483 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original) Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too ! Where ever the speed was recorded, it wasn't the M25!

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
Scrogg Run out of ideas... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 15,381 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original) Yes, and i only hope he is on a private track too ! Quote: Originally Posted by Yellow/Black OneD (original) Or Germany The lucky so and so it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it!

Sep 18th, 2007, 10:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 483 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) it's not so much the speed that's the issue, as there are clearly places where it is legal, but the lack of concentration and control whilst recording it! They probably had someone sitting in the back with the camera? Or he may of had the camera straped to his ......

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
MarkW XR3i / JCW MCS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Full Throttle Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 369 Offline	I wouldn't believe the readings unless it was backed up with proper timing equipment over a set distance, calibrated speedo's or professional equipment. Bare In Mind that Speedos overread, rough rule of thumb is about 10% but will vary between cars (ie circa 140mph real world very close to the official figures GPS based speeds are inaccurate if any gradients are involved unless you have spent a lot of money on professional equipment not a £150 Garmin unit from Halfrauds

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
The Tangman MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 72 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by LeakyTurnip (original) And it was the Automatic! I was having a play around on YouTube the other night looking for Mini vids also and on one they had done tests on a 1/4 mile drag comparing the Auto and the manual andthe Auto came in faster every time. Now I know that historically auto's are supposed to be slower than manuals but could this be the case now that auto's are that efficient etc that they are overtaking the manuals (parden the pun!) I am aware the official BMW stats still say that the auto is slower but just wondered what you guys thought?!....I am not very mechanically savvy...

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
picard MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2007 Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 359 Online	any noticed the revs are at 5k seems low such a high speed i would have thought 6.5k MINI Photos

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 955 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by The Tangman (original) I was having a play around on YouTube the other night looking for Mini vids also and on one they had done tests on a 1/4 mile drag comparing the Auto and the manual andthe Auto came in faster every time. Now I know that historically auto's are supposed to be slower than manuals but could this be the case now that auto's are that efficient etc that they are overtaking the manuals (parden the pun!) I am aware the official BMW stats still say that the auto is slower but just wondered what you guys thought?!....I am not very mechanically savvy... The only way the Auto would / could win is probably down to two factors...........driver and more importantly..........gearing. The Auto probably has lower ratios in 1st and second to get to 60 quicker. Just my 2p worth 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 40,778 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) More importantly, is anyone else in the slightest bit worried that this idiot appears to be doing circa 150mph whilst recording his speedo with the camera on his mobile phone whilst driving? Yep. Hope that was a nice empty track, not a road.

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 3,070 Offline	Speedos are notoriously out .... @ 70 mph by GPS my S speedo reads 76! Thats a lot of miles out! GPS is the only real measure as car speedos are usually pap the faster you go....Oh and I'm sure it was on an airfield or oval I have to agree the chances are its not right speed reading, not a private track/road and not clever :shakeshead:

Sep 18th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
Nath316 I'm avin 'oops Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rugby Local Time: 01:44 AM Posts: 947 Offline	mmmm well had my MCS upto 120 odd other day on a private road of course and it was v light Wouldnt want to go much more and besides why would I want to More Air + More Fuel = More Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 18th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:44 PM Posts: 10,652 Online	First, the MINI has a top speed cap of 138 so unless you actually flash the ECU to remove it, you are not going to get much or anymore power out of the car at that speed. Once that cap is removed, it is very possible to hit that speed. I have been up to 140 mph in my MCS on the Autobahn. Global Moderator

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