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CHRIS27 · Apr 3rd, 2008, 08:33 PM

Just tried a cooper today and a cooper D, yes the cooper D has a bit of talk and 50-70 its pretty quick but I will be long gone in the S by time the dooper gets to 50!!!

Can't believe any of these guys can comare their performance to the S and claim they are better.... Yes mpg is better but I did not buy the S for economy it was for smiles per mile.

Both cars were sluggish and unremarkable, diesel was a little noisey and the cooper was a little limp. Gearboxes did not seam as good, and the set-up was not as tight. All in all I expected more from what I had heard from the forums, absolute cobblers!!

Fin · Apr 3rd, 2008, 08:56 PM

I don't think anyone has said that a Cooper or Dooper had better performance than a Cooper S?

The torque on a Cooper D is in the same ball park as a Cooper S, so in-gear it will be pokey.

Triffid · Apr 3rd, 2008, 09:00 PM

I don't think anyone would claim that the Dooper is a match for the S

???

The Dooper setup is based on a tradeoff between getting excellent MPG with reasonable acceleration. People buy them because they are cheaper to run in all areas than the S.

I wanted an S, but decided I couldnt afford to run it at the moment. But I'm really happy with the Dooper as the S would probably only get me to where I wanted to go a few seconds sooner for most journeys, due to traffic on backroads and the speedlimits on major roads

I'm surprised I've replied as it's really obvious that the S is the performance model

Tommo · Apr 3rd, 2008, 09:09 PM

Looks like you can't believe everything you read on forums ? Or so it would seem

Tunster · Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:20 PM

Let's simpify the comparisons......

MINI One - For anyone that wants a no-frills car, cheap to run, cheap to tax, and not bothered about speed. Very good for new drivers.

MINI Cooper - The all-rounder. Fun, nippy, and balances everything. Very good for a second car and is far more advanced than the One.

MINI Cooper D - Benefits people who do alot of milage. Has also got credidentials to be very quick because of the torque.

MINI Cooper S - I think this spells fun all over. For the driver who doesn't have financial limits and wants a car that makes the MINI what it should be all about. As much as I personally love the Cooper D (my dad owns it), the Cooper S brings driving to a new level.

Triffid · Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:23 PM

OMG: stop the press, the S is quicker!

Professor Peach · Apr 11th, 2008, 09:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tunster (original)

MINI Cooper S - I think this spells fun all over. For the driver who doesn't have financial limits

To be completely honest, if I didn't have financial limits I'd most probably have an Aston Martin DB9, but don't tell anybody that...

Paul · Apr 11th, 2008, 09:59 AM

Cooper S is quickest factory MINI shocker?

The Dooper is better than the Cooper though.......

sony · Apr 16th, 2008, 05:47 PM

That's strange, tried both today myself. I have an A3 2.0 tdi- 140bhp. The Dooper felt nearly as quick- but it remains a diesel- I can't stand that clatter anymore!
The Cooper was just as fast but 40-60 mph felt slow, I really had to rev it hard to make as good progress as I did with the Dooper.
I haveonly tried the "old" S. That was quick and did sound gorgeous the new one must be even better.
I do think I'll go for the new S. Its more economical than the old one, cheap to tax for the power, and easy to live with in general!!

Apr 3rd, 2008, 08:33 PM	#1
CHRIS27 MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 31 Offline	S Vs the others Just tried a cooper today and a cooper D, yes the cooper D has a bit of talk and 50-70 its pretty quick but I will be long gone in the S by time the dooper gets to 50!!! Can't believe any of these guys can comare their performance to the S and claim they are better.... Yes mpg is better but I did not buy the S for economy it was for smiles per mile. Both cars were sluggish and unremarkable, diesel was a little noisey and the cooper was a little limp. Gearboxes did not seam as good, and the set-up was not as tight. All in all I expected more from what I had heard from the forums, absolute cobblers!!

Apr 3rd, 2008, 09:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Triffid MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cambs Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 68 Offline	I don't think anyone would claim that the Dooper is a match for the S??? The Dooper setup is based on a tradeoff between getting excellent MPG with reasonable acceleration. People buy them because they are cheaper to run in all areas than the S. I wanted an S, but decided I couldnt afford to run it at the moment. But I'm really happy with the Dooper as the S would probably only get me to where I wanted to go a few seconds sooner for most journeys, due to traffic on backroads and the speedlimits on major roads I'm surprised I've replied as it's really obvious that the S is the performance model

Apr 11th, 2008, 09:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Professor Peach MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 174 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Tunster (original) MINI Cooper S - I think this spells fun all over. For the driver who doesn't have financial limits To be completely honest, if I didn't have financial limits I'd most probably have an Aston Martin DB9, but don't tell anybody that... I like 'em big...

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Apr 3rd, 2008, 08:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Fin Giggity-goo! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cloudbase Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 2,520 Offline	I don't think anyone has said that a Cooper or Dooper had better performance than a Cooper S? The torque on a Cooper D is in the same ball park as a Cooper S, so in-gear it will be pokey.

Apr 3rd, 2008, 09:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tommo twin scroll Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Up North Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 145 Offline	Looks like you can't believe everything you read on forums ? Or so it would seem

Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tunster MCS AB Owner! =D Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Essex, England Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 295 Offline	Let's simpify the comparisons...... MINI One - For anyone that wants a no-frills car, cheap to run, cheap to tax, and not bothered about speed. Very good for new drivers. MINI Cooper - The all-rounder. Fun, nippy, and balances everything. Very good for a second car and is far more advanced than the One. MINI Cooper D - Benefits people who do alot of milage. Has also got credidentials to be very quick because of the torque. MINI Cooper S - I think this spells fun all over. For the driver who doesn't have financial limits and wants a car that makes the MINI what it should be all about. As much as I personally love the Cooper D (my dad owns it), the Cooper S brings driving to a new level.

Apr 3rd, 2008, 10:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Triffid MINI2 Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cambs Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 68 Offline	OMG: stop the press, the S is quicker!

Apr 11th, 2008, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 40,555 Offline	Cooper S is quickest factory MINI shocker? The Dooper is better than the Cooper though.......

Apr 16th, 2008, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
sony Waiting for Doopy!! My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sheffield Local Time: 05:15 PM Posts: 56 Offline	That's strange, tried both today myself. I have an A3 2.0 tdi- 140bhp. The Dooper felt nearly as quick- but it remains a diesel- I can't stand that clatter anymore! The Cooper was just as fast but 40-60 mph felt slow, I really had to rev it hard to make as good progress as I did with the Dooper. I haveonly tried the "old" S. That was quick and did sound gorgeous the new one must be even better. I do think I'll go for the new S. Its more economical than the old one, cheap to tax for the power, and easy to live with in general!!

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