[adams]

Hi guys, yet another new thread from me and yet another mpg one.


This isnt a "i want to buy a s and get cooper d mpg levels" lol. It is merely a question to those of you that have gone from a r53 s to a r 56 s. I currently own and r53 s, and love it, but i recently drove the clubman and thought how they had made the ride more accomplished while handling no worse a real acheivenment. However, i would find it difficult to have less power than i have know so looking keenly at a hatchback s.

Is it that much better on fuel? I get 28-30 mpg at the minute, if the new one consistently got around 35-40 then i would be around £100 better off a month just in fuel? That would cover the new warranty mot new tyres £300 tax etc that is looming on mine lol.


Cheers in advance for your help

[Tunster]

Quote: Originally Posted by adams (original)

Hi guys, yet another new thread from me and yet another mpg one.


This isnt a "i want to buy a s and get cooper d mpg levels" lol. It is merely a question to those of you that have gone from a r53 s to a r 56 s. I currently own and r53 s, and love it, but i recently drove the clubman and thought how they had made the ride more accomplished while handling no worse a real acheivenment. However, i would find it difficult to have less power than i have know so looking keenly at a hatchback s.

Is it that much better on fuel? I get 28-30 mpg at the minute, if the new one consistently got around 35-40 then i would be around £100 better off a month just in fuel? That would cover the new warranty mot new tyres £300 tax etc that is looming on mine lol.


Cheers in advance for your help

I have not owned a R53 "S", but the R56 "S" is superb! I'm not sure what your commute to work is and what type of roads you do regularly. It all depends. Tax reduction to £120 a year is worth the swap! Also, I do alot of short journeys and can get 350-400 miles tank (about 30 - 35MPG). Maybe a bit less if driving harder; however, if you're getting a car with that much power and considering how much fun it is, should MPG really matter? And should you really be considering a Cooper D instead if you're that consceince about fthe MPG?

You won't get the balance unless you're willing to dip to the Cooper, but you'll end up pushing it harder if you've been used to a R53 S.

[adams]

Lol yeah you are right, i think it would be too much of a dip. I relise that it isnt going to be a top mpg getter, but i was trying to have similar (or more ) power and get better miles to the gallon. Looking at the official figures doesnt really tell you the story, hence my question wether it is actually any better from your experiences. I havent totally discounted the dooper yet however!

My commute is all A roads, with a little town driving? Only £120 for the tax? Thats an achievement from such a high performance car!

[KPKalle]

I get roughly 38mpg, 400 miles per tank from my R56 S. A little spirited driving to and from work daily - 20 miles each way. Plus motorways or perhaps a MINI run at the weekends

[Washy]

Attached is a piccie of my trip computer after a 174 mile journey yesterday....it would have been better, but I got caught in a couple of traffic queues.

BTW my S has the JCW stage 1 kit fitted so is probably a little more thirsty than the standard car

[adams]

I hate you washy for your quite super mpg AND having that class jounerny summary on your sat nav!! Very nice mate!! So it looks like i would be around 10 mpg better off. Hmmm decisions lol! Anyone else with there readings? (no more sat nav summarys please i am getting jealous lol)

[drbsheffield]

I have had a Checkmate Cooper S and now an R56 Cooper S, I think that the difference is capacity to get good economy - I had a really steady journey yesterday some motorway and then A / B roads, no traffic and got 45.3 mpg without really trying, yes this will drop to low 30's if driven hard but it makes such a difference compared to my old CLK which I could just get 30 mpg if I tried really hard.

I think the MCS is fantastic on fuel particularly if you are just wanting to cruise steadily without using the performance - a perfect balance!

[zyo]

I haven't had an R53 S but my R56 MCS is doing the same if not a mile or two better than my previous 2 MINI ONES. I'm currently getting about 32mpg with 99% town driving. That was enough for me..oh plus the cheaper tax..oh and the fact it goes like stink. I had a MINI ONE courtesy car the other week and I was really flabergasted at the lack of power but when I had my MO's I thought they were really nippy.This isn't me slagging off the MO as I really liked the two i have had but in comparison it really did feel like something was wrong, it was very nice getting back in mine.

[adams]

Yeah you are right drbsheffield, even driving like a nun in mine it will get 32mpg at best. Mmmmm stick or twist lol

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Attached is a piccie of my trip computer after a 174 mile journey yesterday....it would have been better, but I got caught in a couple of traffic queues.

BTW my S has the JCW stage 1 kit fitted so is probably a little more thirsty than the standard car

This is interesting to compare with a journey in an R53S this February:

Pictures show total journey mileage (346.7 miles), average speed (60.6) and average consumption (38.6mpg). With the greatest of respect, I'm yet to be convinced that the R56's economy advantage is as great as many people think....

When I've driven R53 S's and R56 S's back-to-back, over exactly the same course, at the same speed, I've gained 5mpg (37 to 42mpg) with the R56 S.

[Tunster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

This is interesting to compare with a journey in an R53S this February:

Pictures show total journey mileage (346.7 miles), average speed (60.6) and average consumption (38.6mpg). With the greatest of respect, I'm yet to be convinced that the R56's economy advantage is as great as many people think....

When I've driven R53 S's and R56 S's back-to-back, over exactly the same course, at the same speed, I've gained 5mpg (37 to 42mpg) with the R56 S.

I do take your experience respectably because it does all depend on driving style and what type of journeys are done. However, the major difference in the R53 and R56S is the carbon emissions/car tax group and plus a dibble dabble quicker time for the latter car. IMO, I don't think governments attitude for car tax is going to change and that's why the R56S is better choice financially

However, I guess it depends on what the OP really wants. I personally love the thrills of the turbo .

[Washy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

This is interesting to compare with a journey in an R53S this February:

Pictures show total journey mileage (346.7 miles), average speed (60.6) and average consumption (38.6mpg). With the greatest of respect, I'm yet to be convinced that the R56's economy advantage is as great as many people think....

When I've driven R53 S's and R56 S's back-to-back, over exactly the same course, at the same speed, I've gained 5mpg (37 to 42mpg) with the R56 S.

Understand totally where you are coming from, but I used to get 25-26mpg from my R53 JCW. I never return less than 34mpg in the new one...so for me it is genuinely much better...

[Tommo]

Me too 28-30 was good for my R53 S. You must have the lightest foot in the country or it's 346 miles down hill

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Washy (original)

Understand totally where you are coming from, but I used to get 25-26mpg from my R53 JCW. I never return less than 34mpg in the new one...so for me it is genuinely much better...

I can appreciate that; if I was getting 25-6mpg from mine I'd probably be looking to do the same thing! I wonder how on Earth mine averages 34 mpg?

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Quote: Originally Posted by tommo13 (original)

Me too 28-30 was good for my R53 S. You must have the lightest foot in the country or it's 346 miles down hill

The 346 miles was from Hull to Cornwall, so I guess it must be downhill!

Come to think of it, it does usually get driven with a pretty light foot. For example, there's very little fun to be had on the motorway at any speed, so I usually just stick the cruise to 70mph, forget about looking out for bl**dy speed cameras and relax

Tigger.

[Tommo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tigger, Eeyore & Roo (original)

The 346 miles was from Hull to Cornwall, so I guess it must be downhill!

Come to think of it, it does usually get driven with a pretty light foot. For example, there's very little fun to be had on the motorway at any speed, so I usually just stick the cruise to 70mph, forget about looking out for bl**dy speed cameras and relax

Tigger.

Fair point. I must admit I do stick to the limit on the motorway and get very good mpg to work and back all week. It's weekends and B roads that are bringing down the average in the R56. I must try a full tank of taking it easy and see what I can get.

It will be interesting to see if there's really much difference ?

[Tigger, Eeyore & Roo]

Please let us know how you get on when you give it a go

[adams]

thats a brilliant return tigger. Mine started at around 32mpg, but has slowly slid away to under 30mg regular. On a long run i can get around 37- 40mpg which is good enough for me, but the only journey i hardly ever do is to work and back, the boring slog where i get stuck behind people, overtake, stuck behind some one else, overtake them etc. The at the end i go stop start for a couple of miles, which kills the r53 s! I thin on the face of it a cooper d would be more suitable for what i do you reckon?

[Tunster]

Quote: Originally Posted by adams (original)

thats a brilliant return tigger. Mine started at around 32mpg, but has slowly slid away to under 30mg regular. On a long run i can get around 37- 40mpg which is good enough for me, but the only journey i hardly ever do is to work and back, the boring slog where i get stuck behind people, overtake, stuck behind some one else, overtake them etc. The at the end i go stop start for a couple of miles, which kills the r53 s! I thin on the face of it a cooper d would be more suitable for what i do you reckon?

The best thing to do is test drive both the R56 S and D one after the other and see what you prefer. It maybe the D will either be too underpowered or perfect for what you want. I've seen plenty of people here be tempted into getting the S, but haven't really needed the extra power and want the economy. The Cooper D could be the answer for the balance.

[adams]

Yeah i think i will be test driving the D, it could be i miss the power, or it could be the pull of the diesel will more than suffice. I mean the mpg will obviously be better, but i will attempt to get a d for a weekend/run to work first, see if it is any good! I have no doubt that the new s is a flyer and is better on fuel than mine, but just to sit in traffic and cruise to work i wonder if a compromise could be had! Either way my car is really good, and i have at least a year to decide. I will just sign for the new factory jcw and say stuff it haha only kidding