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Spamini · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:38 PM

I have ordered an R56 cooper with pepper pack. I would really like a sun roof but can't afford the extra £670. I keep thinking should I forgo the pepper pack which has air con, and have a sun roof and a few other extras? Am I really going to miss having the air con? My final spec has to be in by Friday.

Mini Princess · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:43 PM

If you have the sun roof but not the air con i think you will be roasting in the summer. Opening the roof and putting the windows down does not cool you down on a hot day like air conditioning does - quite the opposite. Plus it's like sitting in a greenhouse with that big double glass roof. My advice would be keep the air con and forgo the sunroof and get yourself a cool roof graphic instead

deanquartermaine · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:48 PM

I would have to agree, keep the air con and ditch the sunroof.

Rakey · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:50 PM

sunroof just adds weight to the car, more heat if closed, and of course the possible issues with leaks like on the current car.

Stick with your pepper pack

:: Jon :: · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Having had both the Sunroof on my last one and aircon on this one... I would have to say AIRCON...

saves weight

No rattles or problems resulting in time spent at MINI servicing dept.
No noise when open...

nice and cool at the touch of a button with aircon..

although if i could have had both i would have... if they made a lightweight version anyways..

sef · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM

Agreed... What they all said... A number of people have gone down just the sunroof route and regretted it...

Spamini · Sep 27th, 2006, 12:59 PM

Looks like I'll be sticking with the pepper pack! Thanks for your replies

Olly. · Sep 27th, 2006, 01:00 PM

Agree with what others have said.

I have the sunroof on my car, I use it all the time but air con is better in the summer and is a must for resale values.

SteveBrass · Sep 27th, 2006, 01:02 PM

I favour air con over the sunroof BUT you'll have a blank toggle with the interior lights cluster.

JHorwitz · Sep 27th, 2006, 01:07 PM

i would love a sunroof, i have aircon, and couldnt go without it, but if you really want a sunroof then maybe wait a little longer to save up for something you really want.

Bhozar · Sep 27th, 2006, 01:22 PM

I love my sunroof. Never had any problems with it or on my previous Cooper.

Would never give up A/C. Imagine being stuck in M6 traffic for three hours in 30 degree+ heat without A/C?

devaisl · Sep 27th, 2006, 03:04 PM

Definitely keep your air con! I did what you are considering (got the sunroof instead of air con) and believe me you will roast during the summer! While the sunroof leaves the inside of the car nice and bright, when the full summer sun is beaming down on that glass

!!!
So (hopefully) next car I get i will get both

Scrogg · Sep 27th, 2006, 03:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SteveBrass (original)

BUT you'll have a blank toggle with the interior lights cluster.

Not the most compelling reason to spend nearly £700!

SteveBrass · Sep 27th, 2006, 05:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

Not the most compelling reason to spend nearly £700!

Couldn't agree more - but all part of Mini's professed marketing tactics.

Scrogg · Sep 27th, 2006, 05:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SteveBrass (original)

Couldn't agree more - but all part of Mini's professed marketing tactics.

If that was true every MINI One and Cooper ordered to date would have had ASC+T just to fill the blank next to the passenger electric window switch.

Not been a very successful tactic, has it?

SteveBrass · Sep 27th, 2006, 06:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

If that was true every MINI One and Cooper ordered to date would have had ASC+T just to fill the blank next to the passenger electric window switch.

Not been a very successful tactic, has it?

Successful or not (and you will know far more than me about it) you'll recall from the stuff released so far about the r56 the phrase " so the more options you choose the more toggles you can have" (or something like that!)

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:38 PM	#1
Spamini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Spalding Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 166 Offline	Dilemma! I have ordered an R56 cooper with pepper pack. I would really like a sun roof but can't afford the extra £670. I keep thinking should I forgo the pepper pack which has air con, and have a sun roof and a few other extras? Am I really going to miss having the air con? My final spec has to be in by Friday.

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rakey I am not a number!! My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Village Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 50,334 Offline	sunroof just adds weight to the car, more heat if closed, and of course the possible issues with leaks like on the current car. Stick with your pepper pack Its only a forum you know!

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
:: Jon :: what a 5h1t hole My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 15,110 Offline	Having had both the Sunroof on my last one and aircon on this one... I would have to say AIRCON... saves weight No rattles or problems resulting in time spent at MINI servicing dept. No noise when open... nice and cool at the touch of a button with aircon.. although if i could have had both i would have... if they made a lightweight version anyways.. EMPTY SPACE NEEDS FILLING.... but it has to be something that wont get me banned

Sep 27th, 2006, 01:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 384 Offline	I favour air con over the sunroof BUT you'll have a blank toggle with the interior lights cluster. R56 AB Cooper

Sep 27th, 2006, 05:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 384 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) Not the most compelling reason to spend nearly £700! Couldn't agree more - but all part of Mini's professed marketing tactics. R56 AB Cooper

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Sep 27th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mini Princess MINI2 Master Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In the boutique Local Time: 05:25 AM Posts: 1,063 Offline	If you have the sun roof but not the air con i think you will be roasting in the summer. Opening the roof and putting the windows down does not cool you down on a hot day like air conditioning does - quite the opposite. Plus it's like sitting in a greenhouse with that big double glass roof. My advice would be keep the air con and forgo the sunroof and get yourself a cool roof graphic instead

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
deanquartermaine MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Worksop, Notts Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 504 Offline	I would have to agree, keep the air con and ditch the sunroof.

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 674 Offline	Agreed... What they all said... A number of people have gone down just the sunroof route and regretted it...

Sep 27th, 2006, 12:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spamini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Spalding Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 166 Offline	Looks like I'll be sticking with the pepper pack! Thanks for your replies

Sep 27th, 2006, 01:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Agree with what others have said. I have the sunroof on my car, I use it all the time but air con is better in the summer and is a must for resale values.

Sep 27th, 2006, 01:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
JHorwitz MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2006 Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 258 Offline	i would love a sunroof, i have aircon, and couldnt go without it, but if you really want a sunroof then maybe wait a little longer to save up for something you really want.

Sep 27th, 2006, 01:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 1,174 Offline	I love my sunroof. Never had any problems with it or on my previous Cooper. Would never give up A/C. Imagine being stuck in M6 traffic for three hours in 30 degree+ heat without A/C?

Sep 27th, 2006, 03:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
devaisl MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Mighty Midlands! Local Time: 05:25 AM Posts: 226 Offline	Definitely keep your air con! I did what you are considering (got the sunroof instead of air con) and believe me you will roast during the summer! While the sunroof leaves the inside of the car nice and bright, when the full summer sun is beaming down on that glass !!! So (hopefully) next car I get i will get both

Sep 27th, 2006, 03:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SteveBrass (original) BUT you'll have a blank toggle with the interior lights cluster. Not the most compelling reason to spend nearly £700!

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Sep 27th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 15,069 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by SteveBrass (original) Couldn't agree more - but all part of Mini's professed marketing tactics. If that was true every MINI One and Cooper ordered to date would have had ASC+T just to fill the blank next to the passenger electric window switch. Not been a very successful tactic, has it?

Sep 27th, 2006, 06:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 06:25 AM Posts: 384 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) If that was true every MINI One and Cooper ordered to date would have had ASC+T just to fill the blank next to the passenger electric window switch. Not been a very successful tactic, has it? Successful or not (and you will know far more than me about it) you'll recall from the stuff released so far about the r56 the phrase " so the more options you choose the more toggles you can have" (or something like that!) R56 AB Cooper

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