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~Marcus~ · Oct 30th, 2006, 12:33 PM

So why is it standard in the US on the Cooper but not available in the UK!

Really annoying - almost makes me want to upgrade to an MCS (except an MCS in the same spec as my Cooper will cost about £24k!

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appmacguy · Oct 31st, 2006, 07:52 AM

I think it is becasue the 'sports button' is useless in the UK when you are stuck in traffic for 90% of the time. LOL!

m1m0 · Oct 31st, 2006, 08:28 AM

Yeah. And how long can it be before the government introduces a sport button tax?

Is it not even available in the UK as an option?

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 12:15 AM

The Sport Button will become an option on Cooper in the UK from March 2007 build onwards.

Sowellman · Nov 9th, 2006, 12:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ~Marcus~ (original)

The Sport Button [ So why is it standard in the US on the Cooper but not available in the UK!

I thought that when you hit the button, a football bounces out from underneath the car. Since your football and our football are different, I thought it was a UK plot to increase interest in your football.

My wife, Donny, who is from Hong Kong, asks me why our football is called that when the players hardly spend any time kicking it. I told her I have no good answer.

KenL · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:47 AM

Any idea what that option will cost?

Also, will it make much differenence on the lower powered Cooper?

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 08:53 AM

Sorry, wasn't told that, but I doubt it will be overly expensive.

It is being launched in conjunction with the Automatic Transmission, as the gearbox itself does not have a 'Sport' mode, but will also be available on manual.

It doesn't make a huge difference on the Cooper S, but just enough to make the drive more involved. I would imagine the same difference will be noticeable on the Cooper.

Not that it matters, virtually everyone will have it anyway!

appmacguy · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

Sorry, wasn't told that, but I doubt it will be overly expensive.

It is being launched in conjunction with the Automatic Transmission, as the gearbox itself does not have a 'Sport' mode, but will also be available on manual.

It doesn't make a huge difference on the Cooper S, but just enough to make the drive more involved. I would imagine the same difference will be noticeable on the Cooper.

Not that it matters, virtually everyone will have it anyway!

Is it worth waiting for Scrogg? I am looking for a March delivery on mine (when i order it) and I presume it would increase the fuel useage.

Also save a new thread, any more news on insurance groups as I presume the first people expecting delivery are wanting to insure their new MINI's.

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by appmacguy (original)

Is it worth waiting for Scrogg? I am looking for a March delivery on mine (when i order it) and I presume it would increase the fuel useage.

Also save a new thread, any more news on insurance groups as I presume the first people expecting delivery are wanting to insure their new MINI's.

After driving the Cooper S yesterday, both with and without the Sport Button on, I think it is worth it.

If you are worried about the reduction in fuel economy that it will probably cause you can always leave it off most of the time, and just use it when you want to have a bit of fun!

Still waiting to here back from MINI on insurance groups, but as both safety and security are improved over the outgoping model I would be very surprised if they are not lower...

WildRover · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

After driving the Cooper S yesterday, both with and without the Sport Button on, I think it is worth it.

If you are worried about the reduction in fuel economy that it will probably cause you can always leave it off most of the time, and just use it when you want to have a bit of fun!

Still waiting to here back from MINI on insurance groups, but as both safety and security are improved over the outgoping model I would be very surprised if they are not lower...

Drove a Z4M Coupe last week with the sports button - I ask WHY! Leave it dfaulted to SPORT. Found it to be a pure gimmick!

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by WildRover (original)

Drove a Z4M Coupe last week with the sports button - I ask WHY! Leave it dfaulted to SPORT. Found it to be a pure gimmick!

As with everything in the world of cars, it is there to give people the choice.

You may switch your Traction Control off, but that does not make it a gimmick that should not be there, does it?

Personally, I would leave it on all the time, but it is nice to know I have the choice rather than just being told I have to have it.

WildRover · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

As with everything in the world of cars, it is there to give people the choice.

You may switch your Traction Control off, but that does not make it a gimmick that should not be there, does it?

Personally, I would leave it on all the time, but it is nice to know I have the choice rather than just being told I have to have it.

Scrogg fair point.

BTW: Traction Control isn't a Gimmick - but a life safer for some drivers!

Scrogg · Nov 9th, 2006, 09:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by WildRover (original)

BTW: Traction Control isn't a Gimmick - but a life safer for some drivers!

I agree, I was just using it as an example of a technical aid that not everyone uses/likes, perhaps it wasn't the best one to use though!

Freddo · Nov 9th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original)

Any idea what that option will cost?

In Sweden the sportbutton cost 1300SEK, that will be £90, so its not a superexpensive option so to speak.
Sounds odd that you cant get it. I can´t come up with a good reason.

Oct 30th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#1
~Marcus~ Selling soul to buy JCW! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London & Hampshire Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 1,945 Offline	Why no Sport button on UK Coopers? The Sport Button sounds like fun. So why is it standard in the US on the Cooper but not available in the UK! Really annoying - almost makes me want to upgrade to an MCS (except an MCS in the same spec as my Cooper will cost about £24k! ) My Blog

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appmacguy MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Leicester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 234 Offline	I think it is becasue the 'sports button' is useless in the UK when you are stuck in traffic for 90% of the time. LOL! 57 Mini Cooper, Astro Black.

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appmacguy MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Leicester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 234 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) Sorry, wasn't told that, but I doubt it will be overly expensive. It is being launched in conjunction with the Automatic Transmission, as the gearbox itself does not have a 'Sport' mode, but will also be available on manual. It doesn't make a huge difference on the Cooper S, but just enough to make the drive more involved. I would imagine the same difference will be noticeable on the Cooper. Not that it matters, virtually everyone will have it anyway! Is it worth waiting for Scrogg? I am looking for a March delivery on mine (when i order it) and I presume it would increase the fuel useage. Also save a new thread, any more news on insurance groups as I presume the first people expecting delivery are wanting to insure their new MINI's. 57 Mini Cooper, Astro Black.

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Oct 31st, 2006, 08:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
m1m0 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cardiff Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 211 Offline	Yeah. And how long can it be before the government introduces a sport button tax? Is it not even available in the UK as an option?

Nov 9th, 2006, 12:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 15,066 Offline	The Sport Button will become an option on Cooper in the UK from March 2007 build onwards.

Nov 9th, 2006, 12:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sowellman MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oregon Local Time: 11:02 AM Posts: 230 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by ~Marcus~ (original) The Sport Button [ So why is it standard in the US on the Cooper but not available in the UK! I thought that when you hit the button, a football bounces out from underneath the car. Since your football and our football are different, I thought it was a UK plot to increase interest in your football. My wife, Donny, who is from Hong Kong, asks me why our football is called that when the players hardly spend any time kicking it. I told her I have no good answer.

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
KenL MINI2 Master Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edinburgh Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 5,210 Offline	Any idea what that option will cost? Also, will it make much differenence on the lower powered Cooper?

Nov 9th, 2006, 08:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 15,066 Offline	Sorry, wasn't told that, but I doubt it will be overly expensive. It is being launched in conjunction with the Automatic Transmission, as the gearbox itself does not have a 'Sport' mode, but will also be available on manual. It doesn't make a huge difference on the Cooper S, but just enough to make the drive more involved. I would imagine the same difference will be noticeable on the Cooper. Not that it matters, virtually everyone will have it anyway!

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 15,066 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by appmacguy (original) Is it worth waiting for Scrogg? I am looking for a March delivery on mine (when i order it) and I presume it would increase the fuel useage. Also save a new thread, any more news on insurance groups as I presume the first people expecting delivery are wanting to insure their new MINI's. After driving the Cooper S yesterday, both with and without the Sport Button on, I think it is worth it. If you are worried about the reduction in fuel economy that it will probably cause you can always leave it off most of the time, and just use it when you want to have a bit of fun! Still waiting to here back from MINI on insurance groups, but as both safety and security are improved over the outgoping model I would be very surprised if they are not lower...

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
WildRover MG XPower SV driver Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Local Time: 06:02 PM Posts: 25 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) After driving the Cooper S yesterday, both with and without the Sport Button on, I think it is worth it. If you are worried about the reduction in fuel economy that it will probably cause you can always leave it off most of the time, and just use it when you want to have a bit of fun! Still waiting to here back from MINI on insurance groups, but as both safety and security are improved over the outgoping model I would be very surprised if they are not lower... Drove a Z4M Coupe last week with the sports button - I ask WHY! Leave it dfaulted to SPORT. Found it to be a pure gimmick!

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 15,066 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by WildRover (original) Drove a Z4M Coupe last week with the sports button - I ask WHY! Leave it dfaulted to SPORT. Found it to be a pure gimmick! As with everything in the world of cars, it is there to give people the choice. You may switch your Traction Control off, but that does not make it a gimmick that should not be there, does it? Personally, I would leave it on all the time, but it is nice to know I have the choice rather than just being told I have to have it.

Nov 9th, 2006, 09:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
WildRover MG XPower SV driver Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Local Time: 06:02 PM Posts: 25 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) As with everything in the world of cars, it is there to give people the choice. You may switch your Traction Control off, but that does not make it a gimmick that should not be there, does it? Personally, I would leave it on all the time, but it is nice to know I have the choice rather than just being told I have to have it. Scrogg fair point. BTW: Traction Control isn't a Gimmick - but a life safer for some drivers!

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Nov 9th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Scrogg What's Next? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gloucester Local Time: 07:02 PM Posts: 15,066 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by WildRover (original) BTW: Traction Control isn't a Gimmick - but a life safer for some drivers! I agree, I was just using it as an example of a technical aid that not everyone uses/likes, perhaps it wasn't the best one to use though!

Nov 9th, 2006, 11:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
Freddo MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sweden Local Time: 06:02 PM Posts: 257 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KenL (original) Any idea what that option will cost? In Sweden the sportbutton cost 1300SEK, that will be £90, so its not a superexpensive option so to speak. Sounds odd that you cant get it. I can´t come up with a good reason.