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hein · Sep 22nd, 2006, 08:22 PM

ordered my new R56 yesterday, for production week 45

only have a little question about the sport suspension, on the coopers it is an extra option in the netherlands, only the dealer did't know the difference , so i ask it here, what is the best option, i will fit 18' wheels on it with no runflats en lowering spring

Paul · Sep 22nd, 2006, 08:28 PM

Personally, unless you had plans to change the suspension to an aftermarket set up from someone like Eibach etc, I'd always go for Sports Suspension on any MINI. The new MINI "Sports Suspension" is suposedly close to the current Sports Suspension Plus on the Cooper / S. Firmer ride, less roll etc.

zoooooom · Sep 23rd, 2006, 04:51 PM

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

hein · Sep 24th, 2006, 12:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by zoooooom (original)

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

oke thanks, this morning i put it on de orderlist

SteveBrass · Sep 24th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by zoooooom (original)

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

No No No No No No No No - too harsh a ride.

Paul · Sep 24th, 2006, 09:53 AM

You've driven the 2nd gen MINI with sports suspension?

SteveBrass · Sep 24th, 2006, 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original)

You've driven the 2nd gen MINI with sports suspension?

No. But since the new sports suspension is close to the current sports suspension plus and that latter was too harsh for me I personally have not opted for the new sports suspension.

Paul · Sep 24th, 2006, 10:28 AM

The ride is quite different on the R56 to the current model.

Mini Me GB · Sep 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM

Plus the R56 suspension has been designed with run-flats in mind from the start, the current one wasn't designed for run-flats - therefore the ride quality on the R56 should be better..

Olly. · Sep 24th, 2006, 08:20 PM

Of course

SCB · Oct 18th, 2006, 06:51 AM

I have a 2004 MCS and the ride is harsh, very bumpy, presumably (as people and the media have pointed out) that the run flats were never considered during design and build.

If you have driven the new MCS with the sports suspension, how does it compare? Be as detailed as you like, personal experience and informed opinions count rather than speculation.

Thanks,
StevieB

Deutsch · Oct 19th, 2006, 01:00 AM

I've read many a review on the R56 and there seems to be a general consensus among pretty much every journalist; the sports suspension on the R56 is a bit too stiff, the better option is the std. suspension setup. Not my opinion as I have yet to sample either, but having driven cars w/ stiff suspension setups ( E92 335i, E46 M3, W203 C55), it will only be "too stiff" if it's as hard as the E46 M3's, which can be spine crushing on the right pavement.

mini_jim · Oct 19th, 2006, 07:48 AM

Since it is a no cost option (with Chili pack?) and the S is supposed to be a sports car then I would absolutely say yes - it can't be any more harsh than the suspension on the scooby that I used to have...

Hope they finish the road next to my house soon otherwise bye-bye spine!

Cheers

Jim

ttocs · Oct 19th, 2006, 01:26 PM

I said no when ordering, I quite like my vertabrae as they are (or maybe its just age)

mike58 · Oct 20th, 2006, 05:14 PM

Stiff isn't always fastest, I enjoyed my first coopers handling on 175s and standard susp. to the Sports+ setup with 17s
Yes the car did grip more but the softer suspended and thinner tyred car handled better and was more fun, which in my opinion is what a mini is all about , it is not a caterham.
BUT I will probably order my new Cooper with standard susp and 17s as it looks crappy with the small wheels due to the car's increased dimensions.

Sep 22nd, 2006, 08:22 PM	#1
hein MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sliedrecht Local Time: 06:49 AM Posts: 153 Offline	sport suspension yes or no? ordered my new R56 yesterday, for production week 45 only have a little question about the sport suspension, on the coopers it is an extra option in the netherlands, only the dealer did't know the difference , so i ask it here, what is the best option, i will fit 18' wheels on it with no runflats en lowering spring

Sep 24th, 2006, 09:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 384 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by zoooooom (original) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No No No No No No No No - too harsh a ride. R56 AB Cooper

Sep 24th, 2006, 10:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
SteveBrass MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: staffordshire (not a Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 384 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Paul Mullett (original) You've driven the 2nd gen MINI with sports suspension? No. But since the new sports suspension is close to the current sports suspension plus and that latter was too harsh for me I personally have not opted for the new sports suspension. R56 AB Cooper

Sep 24th, 2006, 06:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mini Me GB MINI2 Senior Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kent Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 695 Offline	Plus the R56 suspension has been designed with run-flats in mind from the start, the current one wasn't designed for run-flats - therefore the ride quality on the R56 should be better.. Kent And East Sussex Mini Club - MINI to the Arctic

Oct 18th, 2006, 06:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
SCB StevieB Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bedford Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 129 Offline	Still Undecided I have a 2004 MCS and the ride is harsh, very bumpy, presumably (as people and the media have pointed out) that the run flats were never considered during design and build. If you have driven the new MCS with the sports suspension, how does it compare? Be as detailed as you like, personal experience and informed opinions count rather than speculation. Thanks, StevieB

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Sep 22nd, 2006, 08:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 40,709 Offline	Personally, unless you had plans to change the suspension to an aftermarket set up from someone like Eibach etc, I'd always go for Sports Suspension on any MINI. The new MINI "Sports Suspension" is suposedly close to the current Sports Suspension Plus on the Cooper / S. Firmer ride, less roll etc.

Sep 23rd, 2006, 04:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
zoooooom MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Aberdeen,Scotland Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 2,467 Offline	Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

Sep 24th, 2006, 12:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
hein MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sliedrecht Local Time: 06:49 AM Posts: 153 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by zoooooom (original) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes oke thanks, this morning i put it on de orderlist

Sep 24th, 2006, 09:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 40,709 Offline	You've driven the 2nd gen MINI with sports suspension?

Sep 24th, 2006, 10:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
Paul Trained Monkey My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bedfordshire Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 40,709 Offline	The ride is quite different on the R56 to the current model.

Sep 24th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
Olly. Overboosting..... Join Date: Sep 2003 Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 3,492 Offline	Of course

Oct 19th, 2006, 01:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
Deutsch MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Local Time: 08:49 PM Posts: 67 Offline	I've read many a review on the R56 and there seems to be a general consensus among pretty much every journalist; the sports suspension on the R56 is a bit too stiff, the better option is the std. suspension setup. Not my opinion as I have yet to sample either, but having driven cars w/ stiff suspension setups ( E92 335i, E46 M3, W203 C55), it will only be "too stiff" if it's as hard as the E46 M3's, which can be spine crushing on the right pavement.

Oct 19th, 2006, 07:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
mini_jim MINI2 Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Oxfordshire Local Time: 04:49 AM Posts: 91 Offline	Since it is a no cost option (with Chili pack?) and the S is supposed to be a sports car then I would absolutely say yes - it can't be any more harsh than the suspension on the scooby that I used to have... Hope they finish the road next to my house soon otherwise bye-bye spine! Cheers Jim New Mini Cooper S in BRG is HERE!!!

Oct 19th, 2006, 01:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
ttocs MINI2 Master Join Date: Sep 2006 Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 3,677 Offline	I said no when ordering, I quite like my vertabrae as they are (or maybe its just age)

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Oct 20th, 2006, 05:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
mike58 MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: uk, Glasgow Local Time: 05:49 AM Posts: 194 Offline	Stiff isn't always fastest, I enjoyed my first coopers handling on 175s and standard susp. to the Sports+ setup with 17s Yes the car did grip more but the softer suspended and thinner tyred car handled better and was more fun, which in my opinion is what a mini is all about , it is not a caterham. BUT I will probably order my new Cooper with standard susp and 17s as it looks crappy with the small wheels due to the car's increased dimensions.

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