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londonmark · Mar 24th, 2007, 09:55 AM

Hi everyone

Can any of you guys/gals give me some advice on lowering the R56 MCS?

I often see Mk1 MCS that have been lowered and look fantastic, so need to know what I need to do to get the same look.

And what is the ballpark figure that I would expect to pay for this?

Recommendations for garages to do this work would be greatly appreciated. (London/Essex)

Cheers, Mark

M1TCH · Mar 24th, 2007, 10:48 AM

Lohen do Eibach springs which will lower it 20-25mm but I'm not sure if thats low enough to look low if you know what I mean.

What you really want is coilovers that can be wound down like 50mm but I don't think these have been devolved for the gen 2 yet.

Lohen.co.uk - Track & Fast Road Performance for your New Mini - Online Shop

londonmark · Mar 24th, 2007, 12:13 PM

Hi m1tch, thanks for your reply.

I don't want it so low that part of the tyre goes under the wheel arch, I just want it so the wheel/tyre almost completly fills the hole, so to speak. Any ideas? Mark

M1TCH · Mar 24th, 2007, 03:24 PM

Well as they are the only springs available at the mo I haven't any other ideas.

I'd like to see what they look like on a car myself.

msh441 · Mar 25th, 2007, 07:47 AM

Check out this thread for pics of Ryephile's car after installing some H&R's:

Astro: '07 R56 MCS

Looks pretty nice. So nice, I've got a set now... just waiting for my MINI to arrive later this week!

M1TCH · Mar 25th, 2007, 08:17 AM

stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those?

is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol

msh441 · Mar 26th, 2007, 06:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by M1TCH (original)

stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those?

is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol

It's subtle, but nice.

I thin H&R was claiming between 1 and 1.5 inches front and rear (H&R part # 29090-1).

Ryephile measured before and after and found 1.5 in the front and 1.0 in the rear. I would assume that they will settle in a bit to after a couple thousand miles.

Richard Crofts · Mar 26th, 2007, 07:57 AM

KW 35mm lower spring after 6 months these go very low looking and even a 17" rim really fills the arch right up...and on the rears it sits just up inside the lip! I have these on my car and they were £125 for the springs and fitting is about £100-150

Ryephile · Mar 27th, 2007, 05:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by M1TCH (original)

stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those?

is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol

Like msh441 said, even though H&R claims a front and rear lowering of 1.5", I measured a 1.5" lowering front and 1.0" lowering rear. This is of course after a few miles to settle the suspension, and measured on a level surface.

My indicator lenses are intentionally orange; if I wanted to get them in clear I wouldn't have ordered Astro Black.

Benny No.1 · Apr 3rd, 2007, 05:46 PM

Has anyone got any links to where i can get the H&R Springs in the UK? Or just to get a price?

Thanks

msh441 · Apr 4th, 2007, 05:36 AM

SRB Power Ltd - H&R Suspension

Benny No.1 · Apr 11th, 2007, 07:20 PM

Whats the low down on warrenty when fitting springs?
I can understand if the suspension would no longer be covered but the rest of the car should be fine? And for people in the UK, how does it affect TLC? I read on the back something about any modifications invalidating the TLC, is it dependent on the dealer?

Sorry about all the questions but i have to sort out how much this could really cost me!

msh441 · Apr 12th, 2007, 08:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Benny No.1 (original)

Whats the low down on warrenty when fitting springs?
I can understand if the suspension would no longer be covered but the rest of the car should be fine? And for people in the UK, how does it affect TLC? I read on the back something about any modifications invalidating the TLC, is it dependent on the dealer?

I would say it depends on the dealer and what specific problems arise in the future.

Logiclly, I now have no expectation that my struts are covered... and I would bet that if I managed to mushroom a strut tower, it might be debatable.

It was a change I knew I was going to do out of the box. The car was either going to get the MINI sport suspension and lowered with springs ($500 + $480 for installed springs), or come with statndard suspension and get a full coilover setup and stiffer rear swaybar ($2000+). Either way would have the same potential warranty considerations. I took what I believe to be the less expensive option.

I really like the results so far (both loooks and handling) and wouldn't consider owning the new R56 without one of these options.

Benny No.1 · Apr 12th, 2007, 12:53 PM

What setup did you go for msh441? H&R springs? Do you have any pics?

Mar 24th, 2007, 09:55 AM	#1
londonmark MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 26 Offline	Advice on lowering a MCS??? Hi everyone Can any of you guys/gals give me some advice on lowering the R56 MCS? I often see Mk1 MCS that have been lowered and look fantastic, so need to know what I need to do to get the same look. And what is the ballpark figure that I would expect to pay for this? Recommendations for garages to do this work would be greatly appreciated. (London/Essex) Cheers, Mark

Mar 25th, 2007, 07:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
msh441 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pacific NW Local Time: 02:10 AM Posts: 439 Offline	Check out this thread for pics of Ryephile's car after installing some H&R's: Astro: '07 R56 MCS Looks pretty nice. So nice, I've got a set now... just waiting for my MINI to arrive later this week! Founding member of R56 Anonymous: "Hello. My name is Mike. I'm a driving enthusiast... and I still like the R56"

Mar 26th, 2007, 06:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
msh441 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pacific NW Local Time: 02:10 AM Posts: 439 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M1TCH (original) stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those? is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol It's subtle, but nice. I thin H&R was claiming between 1 and 1.5 inches front and rear (H&R part # 29090-1). Ryephile measured before and after and found 1.5 in the front and 1.0 in the rear. I would assume that they will settle in a bit to after a couple thousand miles. Founding member of R56 Anonymous: "Hello. My name is Mike. I'm a driving enthusiast... and I still like the R56"

Apr 3rd, 2007, 05:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Benny No.1 Boosted Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 308 Online	Has anyone got any links to where i can get the H&R Springs in the UK? Or just to get a price? Thanks .: R56 Cooper S : Dyno'd 192bhp :. .: H&R Springs : JCW Discs : Forge BOV : Alta CAI :.

Apr 4th, 2007, 05:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
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Mar 24th, 2007, 10:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
M1TCH MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 09:10 AM Posts: 130 Offline	Lohen do Eibach springs which will lower it 20-25mm but I'm not sure if thats low enough to look low if you know what I mean. What you really want is coilovers that can be wound down like 50mm but I don't think these have been devolved for the gen 2 yet. Lohen.co.uk - Track & Fast Road Performance for your New Mini - Online Shop

Mar 24th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
londonmark MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 26 Offline	Hi m1tch, thanks for your reply. I don't want it so low that part of the tyre goes under the wheel arch, I just want it so the wheel/tyre almost completly fills the hole, so to speak. Any ideas? Mark

Mar 24th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
M1TCH MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 09:10 AM Posts: 130 Offline	Well as they are the only springs available at the mo I haven't any other ideas. I'd like to see what they look like on a car myself.

Mar 25th, 2007, 08:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
M1TCH MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Essex Local Time: 09:10 AM Posts: 130 Offline	stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those? is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol

Mar 26th, 2007, 07:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 2,988 Offline	KW 35mm lower spring after 6 months these go very low looking and even a 17" rim really fills the arch right up...and on the rears it sits just up inside the lip! I have these on my car and they were £125 for the springs and fitting is about £100-150

Mar 27th, 2007, 05:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ryephile Deals Gap Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Metro-Detroit Local Time: 05:10 AM Posts: 425 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by M1TCH (original) stealthy! what is the quoted drop of those? is it possible to get the indicators any more orange lol Like msh441 said, even though H&R claims a front and rear lowering of 1.5", I measured a 1.5" lowering front and 1.0" lowering rear. This is of course after a few miles to settle the suspension, and measured on a level surface. My indicator lenses are intentionally orange; if I wanted to get them in clear I wouldn't have ordered Astro Black.

Apr 11th, 2007, 07:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Benny No.1 Boosted Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 308 Online	Whats the low down on warrenty when fitting springs? I can understand if the suspension would no longer be covered but the rest of the car should be fine? And for people in the UK, how does it affect TLC? I read on the back something about any modifications invalidating the TLC, is it dependent on the dealer? Sorry about all the questions but i have to sort out how much this could really cost me! .: R56 Cooper S : Dyno'd 192bhp :. .: H&R Springs : JCW Discs : Forge BOV : Alta CAI :.

Apr 12th, 2007, 08:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
msh441 MINI2 Senior Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pacific NW Local Time: 02:10 AM Posts: 439 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Benny No.1 (original) Whats the low down on warrenty when fitting springs? I can understand if the suspension would no longer be covered but the rest of the car should be fine? And for people in the UK, how does it affect TLC? I read on the back something about any modifications invalidating the TLC, is it dependent on the dealer? I would say it depends on the dealer and what specific problems arise in the future. Logiclly, I now have no expectation that my struts are covered... and I would bet that if I managed to mushroom a strut tower, it might be debatable. It was a change I knew I was going to do out of the box. The car was either going to get the MINI sport suspension and lowered with springs ($500 + $480 for installed springs), or come with statndard suspension and get a full coilover setup and stiffer rear swaybar ($2000+). Either way would have the same potential warranty considerations. I took what I believe to be the less expensive option. I really like the results so far (both loooks and handling) and wouldn't consider owning the new R56 without one of these options. Founding member of R56 Anonymous: "Hello. My name is Mike. I'm a driving enthusiast... and I still like the R56"

Apr 12th, 2007, 12:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Benny No.1 Boosted Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Local Time: 10:10 AM Posts: 308 Online	What setup did you go for msh441? H&R springs? Do you have any pics? .: R56 Cooper S : Dyno'd 192bhp :. .: H&R Springs : JCW Discs : Forge BOV : Alta CAI :.

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