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DerekH · Jul 25th, 2007, 09:04 PM

I have bought a JCW strut brace on ebay due to price, i need to check with R56 owners that have fitted this Strut brace if it came with nuts as person i bought from said it was the nots on the standard strut top no extra bolts with the brace when it came , also is standard nuts what is the torque setting for them. Will this affect the insurance as well.
I have to say as have seen on board before and i never learn it does not seem to be strong enough to make the difference IMHO let's fit and find out and will give an update as soon as get info thanks Derek

scotland67 · Jul 26th, 2007, 11:39 AM

Per previously posted on another thread (http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-w...rut-brace.html), I got my JCW strut brace fitted pre-delivery/pick-up.

However, I found this previously... http://motoringfile.com/files/R56_PD...trut_brace.PDF
It says the parts should include the brace + 6 hex nuts, and not to reuse those that come off. Also mentions torque setting (but not specifically unfortunately, just link to some other tech bulletin? - sorry).

Interested to see if you notice any difference after you fit yours?

DerekH · Jul 26th, 2007, 08:16 PM

Hi Scotland 67 i just got it on ebay from local person £71 4 month old selling car but was told just normal nuts of strut will have to email mini or get some my self of the correct type thanks for the links i will update you after fitted but after getting it i'm not convinced and it will be good to hear from mini if no improvement for a part claimed to be good with £165 retail cost.

DerekH · Aug 18th, 2007, 07:27 AM

Has anyone got dealer contact that can get the torque setting for the Strut brace from the tech ref thanks Derek

rkw · Aug 18th, 2007, 03:34 PM

The part number for the nut appears to be 31331092887. See here: RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper S STRUT BRACE
The drawing on that page is not correct. They reused the drawing from the R53 page (RealOEM.COM * BMW R53 Cooper S STRUT BRACE) but the part numbers are different.

DerekH · Aug 18th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Hi RKW is there a way of using this ref to get nuts torque setting thanks Derek

rkw · Aug 18th, 2007, 07:53 PM

No, the ref is just a parts catalog. FWIW the torque for the R50/R53 is 35 Nm (25 ft-lbs).

DerekH · Aug 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM

Thanks rkw for that will try that

valk009 · Sep 5th, 2007, 04:12 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but to distinguish the R53 JCW strut brace and the newer R56 JCW strut brace is by its colour. The R53 version comes in red, while the R56 is polished stainless steel.

grodenglaive · Sep 7th, 2007, 12:56 AM

If you decide to get new nuts from the dealer just to be on the safe side, ask for the proper torque settings while your at it. Let us know what they say.

I thougt it was pretty stupid that the R56 installation instructions didn't give the torque, but just referenced a tech bulletin - how useless is that? The instructions for the R53 brace told you straight out what torque to use.
Oh well, I just guessed and used 40Nm - no movement after 3 autocross events so it seems to be holding fine.

craigd · Sep 7th, 2007, 09:03 PM

the strut brace should have come with 6 nuts with a slightly smaller collar on the nuts so that it fits in the brace. If not then you have problems locating the back nut on the brace...

hope you get it sorted.

Jason M C · Feb 29th, 2008, 11:44 AM

Hi, I'm new here.
Anyone had any further updates on the torque setting for the R56 JCW strut brace? I am just about to fit mine and from reading the threads will set it to 35Nm.
Anyone got any further advice on that?
Many thanks.

ScoobyDoo · Mar 2nd, 2008, 11:44 PM

Sorry a friend fitted mine for me, I know the torque settings were included in the instructions but they got chucked away....... if you still not sure / dont get a confirmation in time, give your MINI dealer a quick ring.

snans · Mar 14th, 2008, 10:48 AM

contacted my dealer, and he said 34NM (according to TIS 31 31 000)

grodenglaive · Mar 15th, 2008, 12:27 AM

Thanks, that's good to know! I seem to have overtightened mine a tad at 40 Nm.

snans · Mar 15th, 2008, 10:57 AM

remember that you can't reuse the bolts !

Jul 25th, 2007, 09:04 PM	#1
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 825 Offline	JCW Strut Brace Fitting I have bought a JCW strut brace on ebay due to price, i need to check with R56 owners that have fitted this Strut brace if it came with nuts as person i bought from said it was the nots on the standard strut top no extra bolts with the brace when it came , also is standard nuts what is the torque setting for them. Will this affect the insurance as well. I have to say as have seen on board before and i never learn it does not seem to be strong enough to make the difference IMHO let's fit and find out and will give an update as soon as get info thanks Derek

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Jul 26th, 2007, 11:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
scotland67 MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scotland Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 62 Offline	Per previously posted on another thread (http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-w...rut-brace.html), I got my JCW strut brace fitted pre-delivery/pick-up. However, I found this previously... http://motoringfile.com/files/R56_PD...trut_brace.PDF It says the parts should include the brace + 6 hex nuts, and not to reuse those that come off. Also mentions torque setting (but not specifically unfortunately, just link to some other tech bulletin? - sorry). Interested to see if you notice any difference after you fit yours?

Jul 26th, 2007, 08:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 825 Offline	Hi Scotland 67 i just got it on ebay from local person £71 4 month old selling car but was told just normal nuts of strut will have to email mini or get some my self of the correct type thanks for the links i will update you after fitted but after getting it i'm not convinced and it will be good to hear from mini if no improvement for a part claimed to be good with £165 retail cost.

Aug 18th, 2007, 07:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 825 Offline	Has anyone got dealer contact that can get the torque setting for the Strut brace from the tech ref thanks Derek

Aug 18th, 2007, 03:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
rkw MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 06:11 PM Posts: 591 Offline	The part number for the nut appears to be 31331092887. See here: RealOEM.COM * BMW R56 Cooper S STRUT BRACE The drawing on that page is not correct. They reused the drawing from the R53 page (RealOEM.COM * BMW R53 Cooper S STRUT BRACE) but the part numbers are different.

Aug 18th, 2007, 04:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 825 Offline	Hi RKW is there a way of using this ref to get nuts torque setting thanks Derek

Aug 18th, 2007, 07:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
rkw MINI2 Senior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Local Time: 06:11 PM Posts: 591 Offline	No, the ref is just a parts catalog. FWIW the torque for the R50/R53 is 35 Nm (25 ft-lbs).

Aug 22nd, 2007, 08:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
DerekH MINI2 Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fraserburgh Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 825 Offline	Thanks rkw for that will try that

Sep 5th, 2007, 04:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
valk009 MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hong Kong Local Time: 09:11 AM Posts: 71 Offline	Correct me if I am wrong but to distinguish the R53 JCW strut brace and the newer R56 JCW strut brace is by its colour. The R53 version comes in red, while the R56 is polished stainless steel.

Sep 7th, 2007, 12:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
grodenglaive MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 68 Offline	If you decide to get new nuts from the dealer just to be on the safe side, ask for the proper torque settings while your at it. Let us know what they say. I thougt it was pretty stupid that the R56 installation instructions didn't give the torque, but just referenced a tech bulletin - how useless is that? The instructions for the R53 brace told you straight out what torque to use. Oh well, I just guessed and used 40Nm - no movement after 3 autocross events so it seems to be holding fine.

Sep 7th, 2007, 09:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
craigd MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: Jan 2005 Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 129 Offline	the strut brace should have come with 6 nuts with a slightly smaller collar on the nuts so that it fits in the brace. If not then you have problems locating the back nut on the brace... hope you get it sorted.

Feb 29th, 2008, 11:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jason M C MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kent Local Time: 01:11 AM Posts: 1 Offline	Hi, I'm new here. Anyone had any further updates on the torque setting for the R56 JCW strut brace? I am just about to fit mine and from reading the threads will set it to 35Nm. Anyone got any further advice on that? Many thanks.

Mar 14th, 2008, 10:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
snans MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 6 Offline	contacted my dealer, and he said 34NM (according to TIS 31 31 000)

Mar 15th, 2008, 12:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
grodenglaive MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 09:11 PM Posts: 68 Offline	Thanks, that's good to know! I seem to have overtightened mine a tad at 40 Nm.

Mar 15th, 2008, 10:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
snans MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 02:11 AM Posts: 6 Offline	remember that you can't reuse the bolts !

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