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Tara&Paul · Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:47 PM

Having spoken to my dealer and a couple of other informed people, I was under the impression that the JCW Strut Brace wasn't compatible with the JCW Tuning Kit as the brace fouled the enlarged air box?

But surfing the web tonight, I found the following pictures, interesting eh?

P.

Rakey · Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM

Lesson 1 - most dealers know jack, and if they are in doubt or need to find something out they will take the easy route and say it can't be done

Lesson 2 - think about MINI as a company, if they design a tuning kit for people that like to spend more money on their cars then why deny them the chance to spend more on a brace?

airbusA346 · Feb 4th, 2008, 08:43 AM

It is a bit stupid to make a tuning kit and a strut brace and say they are not compatible.

Japper · Feb 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original)

Lesson 1 - most dealers know jack, and if they are in doubt or need to find something out they will take the easy route and say it can't be done

Lesson 2 - think about MINI as a company, if they design a tuning kit for people that like to spend more money on their cars then why deny them the chance to spend more on a brace?

Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money

Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace.

Tara&Paul · Feb 5th, 2008, 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)

Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money

Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace.

Hi Japper,

I'm not about to make the same mistake with the JCW brace as I did with the R53 JCW ITG air filter!!!

The "official" word from my dealer is that fitting the JCW brace with the JCW Tuning Kit is "not advised".

P.

CC07ERS · Feb 7th, 2008, 05:40 AM

I had 1 they look good all shinny but i didnt think it did anything for the handling.

Tara&Paul · Feb 7th, 2008, 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by CC07ERS (original)

I had 1 they look good all shinny but i didnt think it did anything for the handling.

I think you maybe right? The brace didn't look like it would do much? I'll wait for GTT etc to make one!

I went to a dealer today who had a brace in stock. The dealer and I placed the brace onto the top of the struts, we agreed that the brace would fit. however the brace would probably knock on the left hand front corner of the air box everytime the throttle was "let off"?

grodenglaive · Feb 8th, 2008, 07:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original)

Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money

Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace.

Ahh! That would explain why I have had a brace on order from MiniMania for 2 months. The other parts came in only a few days.

grodenglaive · Feb 14th, 2008, 11:42 PM

hey, my brace just came in!
It's very shiny.

Tara&Paul · Feb 15th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by grodenglaive (original)

hey, my brace just came in!
It's very shiny.

Have you fitted it yet?

grodenglaive · Feb 15th, 2008, 11:40 PM

Nope, they forgot to include the mounting nuts. I'll have to wait for another week or so before they come in. I'm not in a big hurry to install it right now anyway - I'm sure there's not enough grip in the snow for the brace to come into play.

ScoobyDoo · Feb 16th, 2008, 02:49 PM

Though mine isnt fitted with the tuning kit obviously as its a Cooper not an S..... I am a fan of the strut brace.... whilst it doesnt do wonders for the handling on driving 'spiritedly' you can tell a but of a diff. and if all else fails - it looks the bees knees

The Overrun · Mar 3rd, 2008, 03:03 PM

I heard the strut brace doesn't really do much because the r56 chassis is much stiffer than the r53s

purely cosmetic

snans · Mar 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM

does anyone know howmuch torque is advised to fit the nuts ?

ScoobyDoo · Mar 25th, 2008, 07:14 PM

Just to let you know........ my R56 strut brace is for sale.

Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:47 PM	#1
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 436 Offline	JCW Strut Brace with JCW Tuning Kit? Having spoken to my dealer and a couple of other informed people, I was under the impression that the JCW Strut Brace wasn't compatible with the JCW Tuning Kit as the brace fouled the enlarged air box? But surfing the web tonight, I found the following pictures, interesting eh? P. Attached Thumbnails

Feb 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rakey I am not a number!! My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Village Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 50,322 Offline	Lesson 1 - most dealers know jack, and if they are in doubt or need to find something out they will take the easy route and say it can't be done Lesson 2 - think about MINI as a company, if they design a tuning kit for people that like to spend more money on their cars then why deny them the chance to spend more on a brace? Its only a forum you know!

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Feb 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Japper MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oil Country Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 930 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Rakey (original) Lesson 1 - most dealers know jack, and if they are in doubt or need to find something out they will take the easy route and say it can't be done Lesson 2 - think about MINI as a company, if they design a tuning kit for people that like to spend more money on their cars then why deny them the chance to spend more on a brace? Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace. 06 HB/W MCS Chilli

Feb 16th, 2008, 02:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 1,420 Offline	Though mine isnt fitted with the tuning kit obviously as its a Cooper not an S..... I am a fan of the strut brace.... whilst it doesnt do wonders for the handling on driving 'spiritedly' you can tell a but of a diff. and if all else fails - it looks the bees knees http://www.dbrally.net

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Feb 5th, 2008, 08:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 436 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original) Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace. Hi Japper, I'm not about to make the same mistake with the JCW brace as I did with the R53 JCW ITG air filter!!! The "official" word from my dealer is that fitting the JCW brace with the JCW Tuning Kit is "not advised". P.

Feb 7th, 2008, 05:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
CC07ERS TYPE R GT VTEC POWERED My Classifieds Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Type R GT Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 2,721 Offline	I had 1 they look good all shinny but i didnt think it did anything for the handling.

Feb 7th, 2008, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 436 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by CC07ERS (original) I had 1 they look good all shinny but i didnt think it did anything for the handling. I think you maybe right? The brace didn't look like it would do much? I'll wait for GTT etc to make one! I went to a dealer today who had a brace in stock. The dealer and I placed the brace onto the top of the struts, we agreed that the brace would fit. however the brace would probably knock on the left hand front corner of the air box everytime the throttle was "let off"?

Feb 8th, 2008, 07:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
grodenglaive MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 02:01 PM Posts: 75 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Japper (original) Apparently there was a memo / instruction from MINI that this couldn't be fitted with the tuning kit and that a redesigned one was being produced.........this would make extra money Although there are loads of people out there that are running both. One member on here said the problem was when you engaged reverse the 'forward' movement of the engine causes the airbox to knock against th brace. Ahh! That would explain why I have had a brace on order from MiniMania for 2 months. The other parts came in only a few days.

Feb 14th, 2008, 11:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
grodenglaive MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 02:01 PM Posts: 75 Offline	hey, my brace just came in! It's very shiny.

Feb 15th, 2008, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tara&Paul MINI2 Senior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 436 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by grodenglaive (original) hey, my brace just came in! It's very shiny. Have you fitted it yet?

Feb 15th, 2008, 11:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
grodenglaive MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Local Time: 02:01 PM Posts: 75 Offline	Nope, they forgot to include the mounting nuts. I'll have to wait for another week or so before they come in. I'm not in a big hurry to install it right now anyway - I'm sure there's not enough grip in the snow for the brace to come into play.

Mar 3rd, 2008, 03:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
The Overrun MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Local Time: 06:01 PM Posts: 83 Offline	I heard the strut brace doesn't really do much because the r56 chassis is much stiffer than the r53s purely cosmetic

Mar 8th, 2008, 12:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
snans MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 6 Offline	does anyone know howmuch torque is advised to fit the nuts ?

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Mar 25th, 2008, 07:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
ScoobyDoo Back in a first gen. My Classifieds Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: DBRally Local Time: 07:01 PM Posts: 1,420 Offline	Just to let you know........ my R56 strut brace is for sale. http://www.dbrally.net

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