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KillerByte · Oct 7th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original)

I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to.

Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different.

Possibly.

However, Dirk showed some 3D model ideas of possible Clubman variations and those were based on the first generation cars. Now, going on to the 'masculine' feel of the Clubman which he mentioned a few times during his presentation, I do feel that the R56's bulkier appearance contributes to that idea. The first generation MINI was, in my opinion, much more feminine and baby-faced, and this would have deviated from the 'masculine' design values. I know Dirk referred to MINI design incorporating masculine, feminine and baby lines but I do feel that the looks of the first generation were biased toward the feminine and baby sides.

Oct 7th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#130
KillerByte Skadoosh! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 05:36 PM Posts: 9,578 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Scrogg (original) I had that conversation yesterday (I think it was with Rakey and RVW?) and commented that the reason people think that is, unlike the R56, there is nothing to compare this car to. Had there been a 1st Generation Clubman many people's views would have been very different. Possibly. However, Dirk showed some 3D model ideas of possible Clubman variations and those were based on the first generation cars. Now, going on to the 'masculine' feel of the Clubman which he mentioned a few times during his presentation, I do feel that the R56's bulkier appearance contributes to that idea. The first generation MINI was, in my opinion, much more feminine and baby-faced, and this would have deviated from the 'masculine' design values. I know Dirk referred to MINI design incorporating masculine, feminine and baby lines but I do feel that the looks of the first generation were biased toward the feminine and baby sides.