I think I am swaying towards the alpine especially as my last one was really good sound wise even with just the standard speakers
I was prob lookin at a max of £200 for an alpine which can get you something good and made for iPod which is what I want where as the few hundred quid more JVC AVX-33 doesnt have a lead for an iPod which is about £40 more.
Also thanks for the info about the fascia! Think I will be getting the rubber one you said about now.