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DaFlake · Oct 29th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by hedgetrimmer (original)

Reality check revisited. I have now received advice from 2 very well known supplier who both confirm that a remap is not necessary. One quoted that the standard map is quite often better than the bluefin map by adjusting and supplying more fuel with the increased airflow even though throttle and revs dont differ. They also quoted just shy of 200 bhp on a standard map. Both suppliers can remap so they are not simply shirking their duties.

FYI the "reality check " comment was uncalled for and very rude.

Like I said before, it has nothing to do with if it should be done or not but rather if you want to do it. There is no doubt that the MINI ECU can handle the upgrades and that the adjusted values will be in the "window" so to speak albeit the far end of the window. Tuning is an art form and some will and some won't agree with a remap but I do know from my experience that the car runs MUCH better with a tune as it will help to re-center the car in that "window". I can easily point you to other tuners that are also well known who would disagree with the others but that is what makes it controversial now doesn't it.

Here is what I noticed with MTH.

1. More aggressive response in all gears.
2. Less yo-yo affect.
3. More lower end power.
4. Adjusted DSC to keep power loss at a minimum.

I ran my MINI with a stock ECU (15% pulley) for well over 6 months and there was a huge difference in driveability and I also noticed that my MINI was running rich with a gas smell . After the upgrade, the exhaust smell went away and the MINI just performed better.

So, the choice is yours but I think you would find more ponies with a remap. It is not required and for what it is worth, I wouldn't touch Bluefin with a 10 foot poll. There were reports of a few blown engines with them and I wouldn't risk it thus I don't ever recommend them. A lot of people are running Unichip or GIAC now as well as some of us still on MTH.

BTW, I think I mentioned early on that it wasn't required....

Oct 29th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#14
DaFlake Lovin' every MINI of it! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 08:45 AM Posts: 11,281 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by hedgetrimmer (original) Reality check revisited. I have now received advice from 2 very well known supplier who both confirm that a remap is not necessary. One quoted that the standard map is quite often better than the bluefin map by adjusting and supplying more fuel with the increased airflow even though throttle and revs dont differ. They also quoted just shy of 200 bhp on a standard map. Both suppliers can remap so they are not simply shirking their duties. FYI the "reality check " comment was uncalled for and very rude. Like I said before, it has nothing to do with if it should be done or not but rather if you want to do it. There is no doubt that the MINI ECU can handle the upgrades and that the adjusted values will be in the "window" so to speak albeit the far end of the window. Tuning is an art form and some will and some won't agree with a remap but I do know from my experience that the car runs MUCH better with a tune as it will help to re-center the car in that "window". I can easily point you to other tuners that are also well known who would disagree with the others but that is what makes it controversial now doesn't it. Here is what I noticed with MTH. 1. More aggressive response in all gears. 2. Less yo-yo affect. 3. More lower end power. 4. Adjusted DSC to keep power loss at a minimum. I ran my MINI with a stock ECU (15% pulley) for well over 6 months and there was a huge difference in driveability and I also noticed that my MINI was running rich with a gas smell . After the upgrade, the exhaust smell went away and the MINI just performed better. So, the choice is yours but I think you would find more ponies with a remap. It is not required and for what it is worth, I wouldn't touch Bluefin with a 10 foot poll. There were reports of a few blown engines with them and I wouldn't risk it thus I don't ever recommend them. A lot of people are running Unichip or GIAC now as well as some of us still on MTH. BTW, I think I mentioned early on that it wasn't required.... Innovation doesn’t come from following the same path over and over. Global Moderator