[theminiv]

what a load of poo, my sony set up sounds much better than the Hk, and thats without the SUB.

Speaking from a sound engineers point of view, in general Car audio is *****, and compared to pro audio will never win.

Sony is not crap at all. Get ya head out of your ass. It is a damn site better than the mini equipment.

And anyway, if it is so crap, how come it is the main line in their aftermarket options?

Look again.