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tuscan_thunder · Jul 13th, 2004, 09:31 AM

i think, from my experience, that the best pads are: Red Dot, Tar-Ox and Ferodo (Pagids are great but any thime i've looked they are fearsomely expensive!). They all seem to be made to a high standard with low fade, good bite from cold and good lifespan. Obviously, they vary a bit with compound. Rob is right, the Ferodo DS2500 is a very good pad. Can squeal a wee bit when cold, but surely that's not an issue if the performance of the pad is good?

The DS2500 would be my choice for a fast road/occasional track day pad for a mini, even up to S Works (etc) spec. the DS2500 should be enough for occasional track days so on the road, they should be perfect. Not too expensive either, and when you think what a full tank of petrol costs, pads are quite cheap really i think.

For a track biased/race pad, i'd go for the DS3000 or look at Red Dot pads. The best thing to do is speak to someone who knows about pads but isn't a rep for a company. I use demon tweeks a lot for hillclimb stuff and the guys there are good for advising customers. They stock a lot of brands and are usually spot-on for matching product with your requirements.

I still think a mini would work better with solid discs, (not drilled/grooved) and braided hoses and clean fluid would definitely help. (I'd also remove the ABS fuse to cut it out but that's my personal choice) the mini isn't a heavy car either so working the pads hard enough would be my biggest concern.

RVW:: you reported the brakes getting too hot on mountain roads. I think this may be the fluid starting to boil. braided hoses help limit this, but a change to a higher spec of fluid would eliminate this. (can't remember the number off the top of my head but generally the higher the number, the higher temp it can cope with)

also, i think you've answered your own question here! red stuff info from EBC recommends them for M3s etc. M3 weighs what, 1600kg? and has 335bhp? evos weigh about 1450 and standard evos (do they exist??!!) have about 280bhp. a mini is about 1100kg, yes? and a works has about 200 bhp so to be honest, i doubt a mini will get these pads working

hope that helps
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Jul 13th, 2004, 09:31 AM	#15
tuscan_thunder racing is in my blood Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: near Aberdeen Local Time: 11:07 PM Posts: 204 Offline	i think, from my experience, that the best pads are: Red Dot, Tar-Ox and Ferodo (Pagids are great but any thime i've looked they are fearsomely expensive!). They all seem to be made to a high standard with low fade, good bite from cold and good lifespan. Obviously, they vary a bit with compound. Rob is right, the Ferodo DS2500 is a very good pad. Can squeal a wee bit when cold, but surely that's not an issue if the performance of the pad is good? The DS2500 would be my choice for a fast road/occasional track day pad for a mini, even up to S Works (etc) spec. the DS2500 should be enough for occasional track days so on the road, they should be perfect. Not too expensive either, and when you think what a full tank of petrol costs, pads are quite cheap really i think. For a track biased/race pad, i'd go for the DS3000 or look at Red Dot pads. The best thing to do is speak to someone who knows about pads but isn't a rep for a company. I use demon tweeks a lot for hillclimb stuff and the guys there are good for advising customers. They stock a lot of brands and are usually spot-on for matching product with your requirements. I still think a mini would work better with solid discs, (not drilled/grooved) and braided hoses and clean fluid would definitely help. (I'd also remove the ABS fuse to cut it out but that's my personal choice) the mini isn't a heavy car either so working the pads hard enough would be my biggest concern. RVW:: you reported the brakes getting too hot on mountain roads. I think this may be the fluid starting to boil. braided hoses help limit this, but a change to a higher spec of fluid would eliminate this. (can't remember the number off the top of my head but generally the higher the number, the higher temp it can cope with) also, i think you've answered your own question here! red stuff info from EBC recommends them for M3s etc. M3 weighs what, 1600kg? and has 335bhp? evos weigh about 1450 and standard evos (do they exist??!!) have about 280bhp. a mini is about 1100kg, yes? and a works has about 200 bhp so to be honest, i doubt a mini will get these pads working hope that helps yrs t_t TVR Tuscan S. 400bhp, 0-60 3.8 0-100 8.08. 195mph. Silver/Black roof Cooper. Hillclimb MK2 Fiesta. 150bhp. Beats Subarus. Building a 'bike engine single seater. 320kg, 200bhp. around 600bhp per ton. 0-100 6 seconds.