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BrantV · Jun 24th, 2002, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Possum
Then we can throw Alpina into the mix. Three motor racing divisions tuning one car can't be a bad thing, especially for choice and price.

Having three choices would br great. Like IRL, where the cars are pretty much identical, with the big exceptions being drivers/crews and the engines. Would be wonderfull to see MINI only races, where different tuners could compete. Make them endurance races too, since most of us will be wanting to drive ours daily.

As for JCW, a MINI Cooper deserves to be tuned by JCW. Although I wouldn't mind a MINI M either.

What would I like to see?

1st) Bigger breaks (disks, calipers, pads, and lines) Make it stop faster before trying to make it go faster.

2nd) Larger cut openings and wheel arches to accommodate larger and more common tire sizes. Having more grip would help prevent the engine from cutting the power in hard acceleration.

3rd) Lighter materials. Carbon and instead of chrome. The less there is to move, the quicker you can do so. Doesn't hurt the gas mileage ether. I'd still want all the creature comforts, just made from lighter weight materials.

4th) Electronic Dampening Control on the shocks, so we don't have to sacrifice ride comfort 100% of the time. If you take a few hundred pounds off the car, the sprung/unsprung weight ratio is going to change making the ride harsher.

5th) More horsepower. Anything north or 200 would be nice. 220-240 would be incredible for a car like this especially if it went on a diet.

6th) Full time 4WD. There's already a tunnel for the drive shaft. Wouldn't it be nice if they used it. Especially for those of us who live in regions where you can snow ski 10-11 months of the year. Some years when it's milder, year round.

7th) More down force. I'm not asking for bigger rear spoilers. I'd rather see some underbody air channeling. By my own rough calculations, there are a little over 10,000 square inches under the vehicle. Probably 25% less is you account for the wheels, and the areas where you can't obstruct suspension travel. To get 100 lbs of down force, at sea level, You'd only have to lower the air pressure under the car by 0.01333 PSI, or about 0.09%. When it comes to pushing down on the tires to add grip, I'll take air pressure vs. weight any day.

I'll take any combination as long as any increase in horse power is offset by bigger breaks.

Cheers,
Brant

Jun 24th, 2002, 11:50 PM	#14
BrantV MINI2 Senior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pasadena, CA Local Time: 02:22 PM Posts: 560 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Possum Then we can throw Alpina into the mix. Three motor racing divisions tuning one car can't be a bad thing, especially for choice and price. Having three choices would br great. Like IRL, where the cars are pretty much identical, with the big exceptions being drivers/crews and the engines. Would be wonderfull to see MINI only races, where different tuners could compete. Make them endurance races too, since most of us will be wanting to drive ours daily. As for JCW, a MINI Cooper deserves to be tuned by JCW. Although I wouldn't mind a MINI M either. What would I like to see? 1st) Bigger breaks (disks, calipers, pads, and lines) Make it stop faster before trying to make it go faster. 2nd) Larger cut openings and wheel arches to accommodate larger and more common tire sizes. Having more grip would help prevent the engine from cutting the power in hard acceleration. 3rd) Lighter materials. Carbon and instead of chrome. The less there is to move, the quicker you can do so. Doesn't hurt the gas mileage ether. I'd still want all the creature comforts, just made from lighter weight materials. 4th) Electronic Dampening Control on the shocks, so we don't have to sacrifice ride comfort 100% of the time. If you take a few hundred pounds off the car, the sprung/unsprung weight ratio is going to change making the ride harsher. 5th) More horsepower. Anything north or 200 would be nice. 220-240 would be incredible for a car like this especially if it went on a diet. 6th) Full time 4WD. There's already a tunnel for the drive shaft. Wouldn't it be nice if they used it. Especially for those of us who live in regions where you can snow ski 10-11 months of the year. Some years when it's milder, year round. 7th) More down force. I'm not asking for bigger rear spoilers. I'd rather see some underbody air channeling. By my own rough calculations, there are a little over 10,000 square inches under the vehicle. Probably 25% less is you account for the wheels, and the areas where you can't obstruct suspension travel. To get 100 lbs of down force, at sea level, You'd only have to lower the air pressure under the car by 0.01333 PSI, or about 0.09%. When it comes to pushing down on the tires to add grip, I'll take air pressure vs. weight any day. I'll take any combination as long as any increase in horse power is offset by bigger breaks. Cheers, Brant