Hey guys, i just wanted to say that in the past week I've been badly beat in little racers with cooper S's. Yesterday for example, this guy flew past me at a hell of a speed, I could barely keep up and within seocnds he was gone. Are cooper S's really that fast? it rocketed by at a hell of a speed.

Also, what advantages does our diesel have over the S's? Other than MPG. None?

What ways are there to mod my car? I'm aware of remaps and chips but dont know of any other way to speed up my car. I'd like to stand at least some chance against a cooper :)

Im aware of the warranty disadvantages of remaping, but is there any physical disadvantage to the car? I dont care about insurance and warranty problems.

the only way seems to be to cheat!!!!!!!! (swerve a little etc)works for me every time

Well yes they are faster, I was overtaken by a AX Gt once and that was it My MOD had to be remapped, makes the car alot better.
You will keep up with an S on the bendy's never on a straight.
Disadvantages of re-mapping/chipping is overall it will knock life off the engine, but depends how long you gonna keep the car :)

The Cooper S has double the power of a MOD. Add another engine and you'll keep up :D

A diesel engine has better low-end power. I don't know how much snow you get there, but a diesel car + snow tires is the best on-road vehicle for winter. The diesel engine will probably last longer, too.

The Cooper S still has more power than the MOD right across the rev range though.

The Cooper S still has more power than the MOD right across the rev range though.
Aye, But my re-mapped D had more Torque! :D

Ha ha, this thread is going to get silly I can see.....

A Re-mapped Diesel engine should last a while even if re-mapped, as long as you don't go silly with the Torque increase, or you will start getting through gear-boxes very rapidly - it will not cope with the twisting forces, but a bit above the Standard CooperS torque output shouldn't cause any problems.

I mean, what will it be re-mapped to? 95-100bhp? The standard OneD is now 88bhp, so that is only a 12bhp increase on standard, thats how I am looking at it.

Si, you mentioned the AX GT beating you, I had a similar occurrance the other week, when setting off from a roundabout on a dualcarraigeway, I only just managed to outdrag a 1.0 litre (I think, it looked standard) Citroen AX, and that was by doing some quick and strategic gear changes to use the torque, I really had to think - just to slowly pass a 1.0AZ. At that point I thought, that is it, something has to be done to this engine MAP.........:D

There are lots of things you can do to the OneD to make it more responsive, and lots of threads on the Diesel forum about it, and similarly, lots of Threads and questions about the performance of the OneD have been answered. Don't believe all you read in the Mags.

It does depend what you are looking for. If it is speed, then you buy an Impreza/Evo etc and pay the fuel bill/Insurance etc. If its a nice combination of Non-Humiliating acceleration (Much faster than an old MINI straight line speed) brilliant handling, minimal insurance costs, minimal fuel/running costs, brilliant feeling whilst driving it that you want, you buy a MINI OneD............:D

Couldn't agree more - so who's best to get the remap from? I see from the Lohen site that a Bluefin is promised for the OneD soon....

Ha ha, this thread is going to get silly I can see.....

A Re-mapped Diesel engine should last a while even if re-mapped, as long as you don't go silly with the Torque increase, or you will start getting through gear-boxes very rapidly - it will not cope with the twisting forces, but a bit above the Standard CooperS torque output shouldn't cause any problems.

I mean, what will it be re-mapped to? 95-100bhp? The standard OneD is now 88bhp, so that is only a 12bhp increase on standard, thats how I am looking at it.

Si, you mentioned the AX GT beating you, I had a similar occurrance the other week, when setting off from a roundabout on a dualcarraigeway, I only just managed to outdrag a 1.0 litre (I think, it looked standard) Citroen AX, and that was by doing some quick and strategic gear changes to use the torque, I really had to think - just to slowly pass a 1.0AZ. At that point I thought, that is it, something has to be done to this engine MAP.........:D

There are lots of things you can do to the OneD to make it more responsive, and lots of threads on the Diesel forum about it, and similarly, lots of Threads and questions about the performance of the OneD have been answered. Don't believe all you read in the Mags.

It does depend what you are looking for. If it is speed, then you buy an Impreza/Evo etc and pay the fuel bill/Insurance etc. If its a nice combination of Non-Humiliating acceleration (Much faster than an old MINI straight line speed) brilliant handling, minimal insurance costs, minimal fuel/running costs, brilliant feeling whilst driving it that you want, you buy a MINI OneD............:D

well done:D a great write up;) you should be on top gear:p :D

Dont try to keep up, just roll the windows down position your seat in to a low laid back position put on some chillin beats and relax!!! lol

Remember, it's just as easy to lose your license in a D.

Though you could do it so much quicker in an S.

I reckon 70mph is every bit as fast in a D as in an S.

But I have to admit (having had my first experience of an S as a courtesy car the other week), that it's much, much harder to stay within the legal limits in an S!;) ;) ;) :D :D :D

Remember, it's just as easy to lose your license in a D.

Though you could do it so much quicker in an S.
After riding in your tractor Mr Harpo:p :p sorry MOD, I thought it was very quick, It kept up with the S's on the Oxford Run

Yea folks, chill out, lol.....:D

Couldn't agree more - so who's best to get the remap from? I see from the Lohen site that a Bluefin is promised for the OneD soon....

It does doesn't it. I was told about development of this late last year, but the product hasn't surfaced yet.
I would really like a blue-fin just for ease of re-mapping, no lap-top required etc, and it is easy to return the car back to standard for servicing etc. I would really like to know when the Bluefin is due out:confused: :confused: , because I am on the verge of purchasing an MTH re-map. You can do this yourself by purchasing the correct lead to connect the ECU to your lap-top then aquiring the re-map from Essential MINI in Staffs via. e-mail.........

Yea the blue-fin seems like the way to go, how much would it cost? Shame that no one knows when it's coming though! and yea, im so tempted ot get a re-map. The main factor holding me back is that mine's 06 and i dont wanna screw up my warranty.

How would you go about making "strategic" gear changes? I guess it doesn't take much saying that red-lining it does little good.

Personally I'd love to try our a cooper s, just to see how different it is to drive.

Are cooper S's really that fast?

No - MOD's are just that slow. :nice:

If you wanted a car to race around in you shouldn't have gone for the derv.

Well that didnt help much :)

Wait for the Bluefin I heard a rumour on here a while ago superchips were doing it for the diesel, if you cant wait remap now! :p

Well I just had the MOD remapped by DMS Automotive today, and it is definitley faster than the Mini Cooper loner I had all last week.
Completely different car now much much responsive and it pulls far better than it ever did before, very, very impressed.

Well I just had the MOD remapped by DMS Automotive today, and it is definitley faster than the Mini Cooper loner I had all last week.
Completely different car now much much responsive and it pulls far better than it ever did before, very, very impressed.
Excellent stuff-You have seen the light! :D

Definitely! I always get my cars remapped.

My 535d sport touring is also DMS tweaked and that is an animal, 344bhp and just under 700nm of torque. Got to love a remap! ;)

Definitely! I always get my cars remapped.

My 535d sport touring is also DMS tweaked and that is an animal, 344bhp and just under 700nm of torque. Got to love a remap! ;)
Immense Torque :D

never under estimate a MOD;)

I've seen these things driven well and on twisties they keep up with a MCS no problem, yes there is a lot more gear shifting to do, and the noise isn't as sweet, but they can move like stink when someone knows how to drive it, and thats without a re-map:)

never under estimate a MOD;)

I've seen these things driven well and on twisties they keep up with a MCS no problem, yes there is a lot more gear shifting to do, and the noise isn't as sweet, but they can move like stink when someone knows how to drive it, and thats without a re-map:)
Yep :D

never under estimate a MOD;)

I've seen these things driven well and on twisties they keep up with a MCS no problem, yes there is a lot more gear shifting to do, and the noise isn't as sweet, but they can move like stink when someone knows how to drive it, and thats without a re-map:)
You would'nt be by any chance refering to a Pepper white 'D' "flown":D by Alvin the Lunatic!!! would you???:D :D :D
Fergal.

You would'nt be by any chance refering to a Pepper white 'D' "flown":D by Alvin the Lunatic!!! would you???:D :D :D
Fergal.
him and Barry are the Tractor drivers I am thinking of:p

Oh yes, especially on the hilly twisty country roads. I don't think Cooper drivers like it when they hear a clattering tractor chewing their back bumper!

Si, you mentioned the AX GT beating you, I had a similar occurrance the other week, when setting off from a roundabout on a dualcarraigeway, I only just managed to outdrag a 1.0 litre (I think, it looked standard) Citroen AX, and that was by doing some quick and strategic gear changes to use the torque, I really had to think - just to slowly pass a 1.0AZ. At that point I thought, that is it, something has to be done to this engine MAP.........:D



I used to own a Citroen AX 1.0 Neon. It had just 50BHP. I now have a Mini1D. The AXs advantage is the car is light as a feather. There was so little weight it could go fast. It had a huge amount of disadvantages though. If I passed a truck on the motorway I had to be ready for the car to wobble from the trucks slipstream. Very unnerving when you aren't used to it. In a crash it would have folded up like paper. I went round a roundabout once in the wet and nearly lost control. If I cornered at speed it felt like the car was going to roll over. Nothing beats the Mini for cornering.