I have the Motoringfile RSS feed on my homepage and just spotted a new entry called "R56 MINI Cooper Diesel Ready for Launch". When I clicked on it, it took me to a non-existing entry. :confused:
Perhaps the article needed some amendments before being published.

Well, whatever, this is good! I wasn't expecting any more R56 Diesel news for at least a month.

You should know what we all have for some time. MINI2 should be your first source for MINI Info.:p :p :p :p

I'm very interested in any info on the new diesel! At least 100bhp with awesome economy...yes please! :D

I'm very interested in any info on the new diesel! At least 100bhp with awesome economy...yes please! :D

Me too - probably the only R56 I'll give any serious thought to!!

Me too - probably the only R56 I'll give any serious thought to!!

Exactly my thoughts. The only thing that put me off the original One D was the lack of power.

Exactly my thoughts. The only thing that put me off the original One D was the lack of power.

Get it superchipped and that will soon sort that problem out! :D

Would be nice to see a decent diesel engine in the MINI. 130 / 140bhp would be ideal, but i'd be amazed if they ever put that sort of power in it.

During the presentation drink about 10 days ago on of the MINI sellers told me Cooper diesel would be for 2007 with 110hp.

During the presentation drink about 10 days ago on of the MINI sellers told me Cooper diesel would be for 2007 with 110hp.

Now that would be OK - probably have more torque than the "S" with that level of power from a diesel:D

If it is a 110bhp engine, i'm assuming it will be the one thats just gone into the 207?

Peugeot 207 - 1.6 HDi Sport (110bhp) 3d - Technical Data - Parker's (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/data-detail.aspx?deriv=34264)

If it is a 110bhp engine, i'm assuming it will be the one thats just gone into the 207?

Peugeot 207 - 1.6 HDi Sport (110bhp) 3d - Technical Data - Parker's (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/data-detail.aspx?deriv=34264)

If it's that engine, then same torques as an "S" without it's overboost

Latest news on the new cooper diesel :D

Punchy diesel bound for Mini Cooper - News - Carmagazine.co.uk (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/news.php?sid=276&page=1)

although they got the current diesel figures wrong, I would LOVE a 110bhp diesel! now that i would swap my beloved Cooper for! :D

If the price predictions are correct we in Portugal can expect to pay over €30.000,00 for one cooper diesel :(

Quarter, why is that? £13,500 = €20,130 -- why are you expecting to have to pay 50% over the UK price?

Well in Portugal we have double taxation when we buy a new car.
We have the VAT but also have the "Automotive Tax" so to speak. It's calculated based on the engine size. What's the price of the "old" mini cooper s in the UK?
Here is around 30.000€ with no optionals.

Infelizmente, nao é Quarter.
We haven't any luck here in Portugal, when we need to buy a new car, we have to by a worst car for the same price of other countries buy better ones...

Well in Portugal we have double taxation when we buy a new car.
We have the VAT but also have the "Automotive Tax" so to speak. It's calculated based on the engine size. What's the price of the "old" mini cooper s in the UK?
Here is around 30.000€ with no optionals.

Would it not save you money to buy one from France or Spain?

Would it not save you money to buy one from France or Spain?

It depends.
If it's new you still have to pay the "Automotive Tax" in full.
Concerning the age of the car you'll get a lower tax and the older cars pay less tax.
it begins to compensate if you import cars with 2 years minimum.
With the VAT and this one the prices of the cars are raised about 40% off the "base" price.
It's revolting having one of the lowest incomes in Europe and still have to buy cars as if we were in Germany, France or the Uk.

Infelizmente, nao é Quarter.
We haven't any luck here in Portugal, when we need to buy a new car, we have to by a worst car for the same price of other countries buy better ones...
The thing is no one does anything about it.
All the governments don't want to end this because they are a very important to their budget.
And don't forget the taxes on fuel, 60% of the price per lt is tax...

Hurray for Portugal :D weeeeeeeeee............

It depends.
If it's new you still have to pay the "Automotive Tax" in full.
Concerning the age of the car you'll get a lower tax and the older cars pay less tax.
it begins to compensate if you import cars with 2 years minimum.
With the VAT and this one the prices of the cars are raised about 40% off the "base" price.
It's revolting having one of the lowest incomes in Europe and still have to buy cars as if we were in Germany, France or the Uk.

We have the same thing in Ireland Quarter, it's called VRT (Vehicle Registration Tax), and depending on the MINI in question, can be 22.5% (The 1.4 Diesel, or 1.4 ONE), or 25% for a 1.6. If you go over a 2.0 it's 30%. Scandalous. We're fighting it for years, and the EU want it gone, but our Government say it's vital to the Irish economy for the billions it brings in. They still can't fix the roads though ;)

For the record, just to compare UK prices, a Cooper R56 is € 25, 250 OTR here in Ireland! And if you order factory extras, you're taxed on those too!

But what I reckon the governments of these countries will do is just rebrand them as green taxes to discourage the use of cars, and I expect they'll be showered with praise!

In all reality, this sort of tax is the only thing that will discourage car buying to reduce CO2, not Road tax like in the UK, even highly taxed petrol. Doesn't stop it being really damn mean! :(

Perhaps a bit off topic though! :D

James

What does it mean OTR?
Well ned78 i think we are on the same boat :D
i don't know prices for the r56 here in portugal but the previous cooper s costs €29.650,00 no extras!
And a Vw Golf V 1.9 Tdi 100 bhp costs around €27.000,00 no extras. The base price €14.800,00...all the rest are taxes!!

Bloody hell, you portuguese get a hard deal. And the irish! Sorry to hear that.

Oh, and OTR is short for On The Road, which is a nice way of saying "before you can drive it". If a car costs £16.000 OTR, that means that the taxes are included in the £16.000.

Bloody hell, you portuguese get a hard deal. And the irish! Sorry to hear that.

Oh, and OTR is short for On The Road, which is a nice way of saying "before you can drive it". If a car costs £16.000 OTR, that means that the taxes are included in the £16.000.

AH :p ok i get it...it's what i called "base price".
And further more the taxes on fuel and cars are considered double taxation and that's illegal.In the EU you can't tax the same thing twice, known fact!
We now have a citizenship movement about the taxes on fuel and there's already a formal complaint against Portugal in the European Comission regardind this. It is said that the Government can loose 700 Million if the complaint goes ahead.
Our Government says the same, it's a very important source of revenues and we can't let go.
To compensate on all this we have 300 days of sun, the best "cuisine" in the world and of course Minis :D

With one of the lowest GDP per capita if not the lowest other than Greece, prices here are sky high, it is unbelievable. So much for the complaints from the UK about car prices.

Even the petrol is ridiculous. Cost me 43 eur to fill 30 litres last night. Thought I was being robbed. You would have thought the roads would be better as a result.

I could go on about the government but I want to get some rest tonight.

How things have changed in Portugal in the last few year - since joining the Euro?

I holiday there often. I remember the first time (about 10 years ago) how cheap the petrol was compared to the UK, now it is quite a bit more expensive. Sad!

How things have changed in Portugal in the last few year - since joining the Euro?

I holiday there often. I remember the first time (about 10 years ago) how cheap the petrol was compared to the UK, now it is quite a bit more expensive. Sad!

With our income that wasn't too cheap as it was to you :smile:
Diesel costs 1,1€/litre and a few years ago we'd pay around €0,60/litre.
Things have changed, don't know for better or for worst.
We have more highways, bridges, constructions but we still have a lousy educational system, minor corruption is everywhere, poor public healthcare (you have to wait over 3 years for a surgery...), workers productivity is the lowest in EU but still we have some major companies who are leading, or placed in the first places, the world market of cork oak, cellulose, plastics, shopping centers, software...

But hey! let's talk about the new Mini diesel :D before mods change the topic name to: "Portugal: praises & critics".

So (seeing as nothing has officially been confirmed) they're basically stating the same as we did back in March 2005, but they removed the "?" to make it look like they're in the know more than others: http://www.mini2.com/article289-next-generation-mini-diesel-engine-revealed.html

Sorry if I am interrupting the fascinating discussion on EU taxation policies ;) , but does the "news"about the diesel go as far as to suggest a diesel cabrio in the wings?

And if this is helpful - here's a link to fuel prices throughout Europe - it's updated regularly too, so useful when planning your next holiday on the Continent!

Automobile Club Luxembourg (http://www.acl.lu/html/traffic_info/index.html)

Then choose "prix des carburants" under the Stations service heading