: Cooper D to Clubman
Feb 13th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Just called into my local Dealers to see how much it would cost to change my 57 plate Cooper D for a Clubman. They had a pre reg 58 Clubman S, 20 miles on the clock, list price £22 000 reduced to £16500 siting outside.
They quoted me £3000 to £4000 to change.
I am so tempted because of the price differential between diesel and petrol and I am finding the boot is just to small.
I have been averaging about 55mpg in my Cooper, worked out manually not form the trip computer which is way over optimistic.
What is the real world average of the Clubman S ?
Feb 13th, 2009, 12:38 PM
I would of said 30-35mpg, Others might say different but I get just under 30mpg and I do suffer with a heavy foot!
Feb 13th, 2009, 01:00 PM
With my mostly motorway, 100 mile round trip, commute I'm averaging 35.5mpg at the moment.
More than happy with that considering the power I have on tap, it's far better than most hot hatch type cars.
Feb 13th, 2009, 01:02 PM
Around the low-mid 30s I find is about the norm for "regular' driving. But my "regular" driving may differ from yours. :D
Feb 13th, 2009, 01:18 PM
I didn't find the Clubman S I borrowed last year very economical.... but then it was borrowed, and I did take it to the Cotswolds run :p
As the others have said, around 35mpg was the norm when it wasn't being driven to within an inch of its life ;)
Feb 14th, 2009, 07:17 AM
My day to day commute is B roads about 8 miles each way, normally never get above 40mph and a fair bit of bumper to bumper :( I'd say I get low to mid 30's mph :)
I also do a 150 mile round trip every few weekends, this is mainly motorways or A roads, driving at 70mph (or over ;)) I get near 40mph :D
Hope this helps, I've had a few minor problems with my Clubman but still think is great.
Go for it :nice::biggrin::nice:
Feb 14th, 2009, 08:14 AM
I think you need to ignore the bargain and ask what car you actually want.
I wouldn't restrict myself to one dealer either
My local dealer (Sytner Leicester) were as unhelpful as it is possible to be when I went to look at a Clubman and wanted to look at pre built or preregistered bargains.
I would look on MINI cherished and phone up a few MINI2 freindly dealers such as Alison at Derek Woodmans and Wollaston Motors in Northampton
Your dealer is not unique in having unsold Clubman S's. MINI massively overestimated the UK market for Clubmans and continued overproducing such that there is a lot of pre built stock around (or was). The Clubman is fairly unloved and the cheap easy jibe regarding the suicide door being on the wrong side made by almost evey journalist that reviewed it put many people off. partly because they thought that BMW didn't care about UK buyers.
The question of whether the resale of the Clubman in a few years time will continue from this 30% in the first few months is also something to consider. Again I think that MINI will reign back production to match demand and the five seat MINI will become something of a rarity and residuals will recover At the end of the day, though, the reason this MINI is cheap is that few people want one!.
From the above the difference in mpg will be around 20mpg and with the price differential between diesel and petrol you will have to do a lot of milesto make up the difference between a new car OTR price let alone the 5k+ you have been quoted. You don't provide the figures to do so. The reason I am getting rid of my 22mpg car is not so much the cost of fuel but the frequency and urgency with which I have to fill up with petrol.
However if you do actually want a cooper D clubman you may well find that you can get 2-4k of a new car or pre reg car (don't forget the 1k pack uplift is a MINI UK give away) so this should be the STARTING point of any negotiation. You may fing a MINI deler with a 20k clubman D on their forcourt with a 4k discount-only you can decide if this would be better value.
I have to say I was drawn in by the 5-7k discounts on cooper S's but ultimately what I wanted/needed was a cooper d clubman and I got a reasonable deal on a pre built one from Alison at Woodmans -I hope you get what you want:)
Feb 16th, 2009, 08:16 PM
I've just bought a Clubman Cooper S, I got such a good deal I could'nt help myself. I traded in a Dec 2007 Cooper D Chili 15000 miles for a Sept 2008 Cooper S Clubman with 17" wheels ,Chili Pack etc, pre reg with 8 mile on the clock for £3000. I checked the spec and this car would have cost £21000 list price at todays new Clubman pricing!.
I will pick it up later this week after I remove the towbar and ipod and speed camera stuff from my Cooper D.
I think in the long term the depreciation on the Clubman S will be alot worse but I needed more space and I could'nt get any good deals on Clubman Diesels but the performance is impressive.
Feb 16th, 2009, 09:28 PM
Had I not had a clear tax based reason for going for the clubman diesel I think I would have done the same thing!
Feb 18th, 2009, 05:42 AM
Rust bucket I went from a Clubman D to a Clubman S and haven't stopped smiling, I have slightly tuned it and do not really notice that it is costing me anymore to run due to the difference between the cost of fuels, my current average mpg is approx 37mpg with a mixture of driving. After making the change myself i would suggest you go straight for a Clubman S.......you will have a permenant smile
Feb 19th, 2009, 10:31 PM
You will love it !
I went from a Clubman D to a Clubman S im still getting 40mpg maybe I dont drive it like I stole it ;)
Ive found with the diffrence in the cost of petrol and deisel its not costing me any more to run week to week than my clubman D !