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CooperDee
Nov 16th, 2009, 12:04 PM
I'm a bit disappointed by the short service intervals I am seeing on my Cooper D. It's driven mostly on motorways, fairly stress free I'd have thought at 65-75mph. I'm getting high 50s/low 60s mpg so that confirms the car is not driven hard. The journeys are not short either, my daily commute is 33 miles each way, virtually all motoroway. However, the service intervals have been closer that I'd hoped for.

First = 12500 miles
Second = 24000 miles

Immeditely after the second service the OBC was showing only 11k miles to the next service.

What intervals are other people seeing? This is especiialy dissapointing given the fixed service intervals are longer on Ford, Citroen and Peugeot with the same engine.

timp
Nov 16th, 2009, 12:24 PM
I've only got 600-odd miles on my Dooper but I paid the £185 for TLC which I'm reliably informed gives me 5 years / 50K miles servicing - so not too worried about what the actual interval is. I think from conversations with the sales droid, that the period (5 or 50) is only really 2 actual services and a brake fluid change - that would make me think that the interval is is somewhat greater than 12.5k miles

caveman_dave
Nov 16th, 2009, 05:47 PM
I have to agree with timp. Considering you have only had to pay £185 for 50k of servicing it does not matter what the actual intervals are.

My wife had a VW Polo with sevicing every 10k or 1 year, she had that 2 years with totally service costs of just under £700

roadster1_98
Nov 16th, 2009, 07:41 PM
My 2009 cooper D has just rolled onto 10,300 this morning and the OBC is telling 2,200 to go until service time so I guess it must be 12.5K service intervals. My car has been used almost all the time on motorways.

M.O.S
Nov 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
12.5k sounds about right for a PSA diesel :)

IanT
Nov 16th, 2009, 08:11 PM
I had a Peugeot 308 with the same engine in before my mini and it needed servicing at 12k miles.

Seamus Not Faster
Nov 16th, 2009, 09:28 PM
Modern servicing no longer takes places simply as a function of time and or distance.

The main factor determining 'conditioned based' service intervals is the degree of degradation in the engine oil. This is monitored by the ECM. This also monitors the diesel particulate filter. Likewise wear and tear of critical components such as brake pads is monitored by the DSC module.
There is good reason why the 'long life' engine oil for turbo diesels costs as much it does. It does its job very well. Remember it's nearly £100 worth for an oil change to a punter not on the tlc package.

It took to the end of month 23, ie. end of Oct 2009 for my car's first service to fall due, dictated by date rather than distance. For the record that was at 11,800 miles. OBC was still showing another 1200m in terms of distance to go.
Admittedly my Dooper is used as a second car, mainly short journey round town commutes.

Of much more concern from an owners perspective is you are not told what is NOT done. Did you know for example that the road wheels aren't even required to be removed to inspect and or clean the discs and pads at the first service ? After all, we all know how much dust the std. pads can generate. They simply use a torch and a mirror to assess this ! Outrageous. At least the brake fluid was changed as per schedule.

Nick_from_Suffolk
Nov 17th, 2009, 03:58 AM
I suspect that the service interval is simply set by the amount of fuel used by the car. That is the parameter used in other BMW cars, such as my M3 and my wife's Z4. I don't expect that our runabout Dooper is more sophisticated than either of those 2 cars.

CooperDee
Nov 17th, 2009, 07:37 AM
I have to agree with timp. Considering you have only had to pay £185 for 50k of servicing it does not matter what the actual intervals are.

Isn't TLC based on the number of services and not the mileage?

I have 3 TLC service vouchers, I've used two of them in 24k miles and will use the final one at around 35k miles if the OBC is accurate. Yes £200 or whatever it cost is pretty cheap for the first 3 services.

Yes I'm fully aware about CBS, however if the car is driven lightly and needs serviced every 11-12k miles then I'm struggling to see the advantages of it. It's certainly not extending service intervals for a car that's not stressed. If I drove like a boy racer I wonder what the service intervals would be...? That's a rhetorical, no need for any answers!

Not a direct comparison I know but our other car in the house was a Passat TDI, it's CBS required servcing about 18-19k miles, again mostly motorway but as it was a company car with company fuel then a fair bit harder then our Mini.

Ignoring all the asides all I want to canvass opinion on is how often folks are servicing their cars? I'm not out for a debate on CBS vs fixed, TLC, etc.

M.O.S
Nov 17th, 2009, 12:28 PM
Isn't TLC based on the number of services and not the mileage?

I have 3 TLC service vouchers, I've used two of them in 24k miles and will use the final one at around 35k miles if the OBC is accurate. Yes £200 or whatever it cost is pretty cheap for the first 3 services.

Yes I'm fully aware about CBS, however if the car is driven lightly and needs serviced every 11-12k miles then I'm struggling to see the advantages of it. It's certainly not extending service intervals for a car that's not stressed. If I drove like a boy racer I wonder what the service intervals would be...? That's a rhetorical, no need for any answers!

Not a direct comparison I know but our other car in the house was a Passat TDI, it's CBS required servcing about 18-19k miles, again mostly motorway but as it was a company car with company fuel then a fair bit harder then our Mini.

Ignoring all the asides all I want to canvass opinion on is how often folks are servicing their cars? I'm not out for a debate on CBS vs fixed, TLC, etc.

Its 5 years or 50,000 miles whichever comes first ;)

CooperDee
Nov 17th, 2009, 02:58 PM
M.O.S, all very well but remember the "up to" 50k/5 years and the asterisk pointing to the Ts & Cs. It's four service vouchers you get - details on Mini website. Driven sedately I'm seeing 11-12k between services, meaning I'll get 44k out my 4 vouchers. Still brilliant value at £185 even if it's not 50k.

However getting back on topic or shall I just give in....?

At what mileages have you serviced you Cooper D?

Not asking about cost, CBS vs fixed intervals, TLC.

Just want to know how often other owners are seeing their service come round. Given the (two) answers on topic so far it seems a 12k service interval for most.

Anyone gone further or shorter than 12k between services?

M.O.S
Nov 17th, 2009, 03:26 PM
M.O.S, all very well but remember the "up to" 50k/5 years and the asterisk pointing to the Ts & Cs. It's four service vouchers you get - details on Mini website. Driven sedately I'm seeing 11-12k between services, meaning I'll get 44k out my 4 vouchers. Still brilliant value at £185 even if it's not 50k.

However getting back on topic or shall I just give in....?

At what mileages have you serviced you Cooper D?

Not asking about cost, CBS vs fixed intervals, TLC.

Just want to know how often other owners are seeing their service come round. Given the (two) answers on topic so far it seems a 12k service interval for most.

Anyone gone further or shorter than 12k between services?

The vouchers are only valid for 5 years or to the point when the car has covered 50,000 miles - whichever is sooner. Hence my comment 5 years or 50k!!! I think on the Cooper D if you go to 0 miles on the counter thing its 12500 miles (12500x4=50000)

The 1.6hdi is fitted to psa cars too - they need doing at 12.5k. A friend of mine has a cooper d, that needs doing at about 12.5k. As its a diesel, it'll need servicing more often than a petrol.

CooperDee
Nov 17th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Jeeze, this is getting difficult. Very difficult.

I officially give up. Someone please have the last word and repeat the same thing over and over, I insist!

M.O.S
Nov 17th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Jeeze, this is getting difficult. Very difficult.

I officially give up. Someone please have the last word and repeat the same thing over and over, I insist!

I'll be blunt. The computer says your car needs servicing. Therefore get it serviced - what else are you going to do? Stop being an idiot!

timp
Nov 17th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Cooper Dee, did you not buy TLC? seemed like a no-brainer to me. Yes, having spent over 20K on the car, finding another 185 wasn't easy but like I said, it was a no-brainer. It should more than cover just 1 service and a brake fluid change so it was money well spent. Anything more than this is a bonus I guess. If you've got a warranty and want to keep it then like M.O.S says, bite the bullet and get it serviced.

caveman_dave
Nov 18th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Cooper Dee, did you not buy TLC? seemed like a no-brainer to me.

If you read his 2nd and 3rd posts, he did purchase TLC, but thats not the issues, its only a simple question 'How often does your car need servicing'.

To me its a very logical question, it is suposed to be conditional, but no matter how many people I speak to it appears to be between 12,100 and 12,500 on the Doopers. Apparantly the petrol engine does vary a lot more dependant upon driving style.

So maybe no matter how hard you push a Dooper the engine and oil etc cope well within the tolerances hence the regular service intervals.

Just for the record I have 10,900 on my car with the service indicator saying another 1600 miles.

wes r56
Nov 29th, 2009, 06:41 PM
condition based servicing is a load of b*******.
these mini's countdown from one service to the next.

im a driving instructor and do mainly strady driving, with a bit of fun every now and again. so i should be at dealer for a service more often. nope 12.5k both times

lets face it its only a oil change and a filter at 24k.

although so far mine's been most weeks with a fault! wont be buying another, this is my 3rd that ive had trouble with

NeilT
Dec 13th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Mine's just been done: I've covered 12000 miles in 6 months. Mainly motorway, sometimes 70ish other times a bit more. By the way, car has been absolutely faultless to date.

MINICooperMurph
Aug 1st, 2010, 07:22 AM
i think the new BMW engines Cooper D's will have a longer service interval. My BMW 1 series diesel was 16-17k each time

JED76
Aug 2nd, 2010, 02:14 PM
Yes, I agree. I had a BMW118d efficient dynamics and drove it on exactly the same commute as my Cooper D. BMW went in for service at over 18000 miles. Mini has just covered 7000 miles and service saying 5000 remaining!

I didn't know that BMW were going to be putting their engines in - when is this going to happen? :)

MINICooperMurph
Aug 2nd, 2010, 02:17 PM
Yes, I agree. I had a BMW118d efficient dynamics and drove it on exactly the same commute as my Cooper D. BMW went in for service at over 18000 miles. Mini has just covered 7000 miles and service saying 5000 remaining!

I didn't know that BMW were going to be putting their engines in - when is this going to happen? :)

All Cooper D's produced from this month onwards. They have also launched at ONE D as well

scillyisles
Aug 10th, 2010, 09:41 AM
Mine seems to follow the general pattern.
First service was at 12.5k miles, second at 24k miles when engine oil and brake fluid were changed plus front pads.
Next service is shown as another 8k miles when rear pads need changing.

DOOPER JDG
Aug 20th, 2010, 07:57 AM
I bought our (07) Dooper a year ago with 14504 miles which was it's first service which included oil + filter change, I took it back to Mini for it's second service at 34500 but on the service record only observation inspection was required, no oil or filters, this seems a long distance between oil changes concidering how long until the car decides it's oil needs changing in the future. Does this seem wrong and how long should be allowed until alarm bells should be ringing?