Mar 25th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Hey I know it has been asked before and I have read every post on every website I can possibly find about it but there isn't much info going! It also hasn't been asked for a while soo..
The bluefin on a mini cooper (not s) can anyone who has done this please give me some feedback, can you feel the quoted 10bhp gain/do you even get a 10bhp gain!?
Any replies would be greatly appreciated as I have done all the research I can!
Mar 25th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Here's a copy of post #45 from a 2006 thread about this subject - this applies to Gen 1 2001-2006 Cooper - R50 :
Ok, installed the Bluefin two days ago (March 25, 2006) on my 2003 MINI Cooper (non-S).
I did some before and after HP runs with my Tazzo VPC
Temp was 37F, I put 2650# in for the weight.
Warmed the car up driving 10 minutes then I did some speed band hp runs
always from the same stop sign on a flat stretch and always shifting
from first to second about 2,000 rpm.
I did 20-30mph and 30-40mph twice each,
then 30-40mph and 40-50mph three times each, and
then 20-30 and 30-40 once more in that order,
and the results in each category were fairly consistent
(average hp over the bands were fairly consistent and repeatable
...it also measures peak hp, but that's not very accurate on this device ...
it picks up bumps and cracks in the road and gearshifts and reads them
as acceleration artifact).
Then I installed the Bluefin, rested the car, and repeated the same procedure.
Here are the averaged results:
20-30mph (2222-3333 rpm -avg about 2800) stock 40/ BF40 +0 HP
30-40mph (3333-4444 rpm -avg about 3900) stock 56/ BF 57 +1 HP
40-50mph (4444-5555 rpm - avg about 5000) stock 74/ BF 77 +3 HP
50-60mph (5555-6666 rpm - avg about 6100) stock 72/ BF 82 +10 HP.
Remember that this is hp calculated by acceleration on the road with
drivetrain losses, rolling resistance, and air resistance cutting down the results
compared to hp at the crank.
It got a few more hp near the redline and a few less at lower rpms than
I expected it to get, but I'm happy with the results.
Throttle response is a little faster (not a big difference) and the occasional
stumble on taking off in first gear seems to be gone as well with the BlueFin installed.
Mar 26th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Thankyou very much for the informative reply :) I think im gonna go for it but one other question.. Is the 10bhp increase actually enough to be able to feel?
Mar 26th, 2011, 11:55 AM
There's a little bit better pull up near the redline, but it's a subtle difference.
The improvement in throttle response was fairly subtle as well.
I've had it on for 5 years and see no reason to take it off or switch to
a custom remap from someone else for a Cooper with an intake and exhaust
and no other engine mods.
As it's not directly available over here in the US, it was a bit pricey given
the currency exchange back then and the shipping from Lohen in GB.
It's probably more reasonable from your location.
No regrets except for the price.
Mar 30th, 2011, 04:12 PM
I'd go for a remap and not a chip in all honesty...
Mar 30th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Bluefin is a remap, but I have been told by a few different people that it is not good for the mini . Used to rate it in Vauxhall circles, but after what I have heard about it, I am not going near it with my car. Actually put me off buying one which had been done . Apparently they run way to lean ...
May 15th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Dont bother going bluefin mate just save up for a cooper s like i did :P btw didnt know you were a member of the forum!
May 15th, 2011, 05:36 PM
From what I have been led to believe Some of the tuners have stopped selling the blue fin as it has been causing damage to engine on mcs's like burning out exhaust valves.
That's what I have been told but never had one fitted
From what I gather if you want a remap speak to Roland at gtt he is a very helpful guy He will steer you in the right direction hope this is helpful